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unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:23 PM Feb 2014

Man who beheaded Greyhound passenger granted unsupervised outings

Source: CBC News

A man who beheaded a fellow passenger on a Greyhound bus in Manitoba will soon be allowed to leave a mental hospital without an escort.

Thursday's ruling by the Criminal Code Review Board means Vince Li will be on his own in public for the first time since he stabbed Tim McLean and then ate parts of his body six years ago.

The board granted Li all the new freedoms his psychiatric team had requested at a hearing earlier this week. Lead psychiatrist Dr. Steven Kremer said Li, a schizophrenic, has stopped experiencing delusions and is a model, non-violent patient.

Instead of the supervised outings Li had been granted previously, he will be allowed unescorted trips from the Selkirk Mental Health Centre into the nearby city of Selkirk. The visits, to begin next Thursday, are to start at 30 minutes and increase to full days.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/man-who-beheaded-greyhound-passenger-granted-unsupervised-outings-1.2554175

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Man who beheaded Greyhound passenger granted unsupervised outings (Original Post) unreadierLizard Feb 2014 OP
... freshwest Feb 2014 #1
Holy shit. I remember when this happened. Come on, Canada! TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #2
What do you think should be done with him? IveWornAHundredPants Feb 2014 #15
Supervision. TwilightGardener Feb 2014 #16
Don't read the comments. unreadierLizard Feb 2014 #3
There are people far worse, free and roaming. Archae Feb 2014 #4
and some of them have held high office cvoogt Feb 2014 #9
He's gotten a clearance. Give him a chance. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt. Rozlee Feb 2014 #5
And as soon as he stops taking his medication he'll be delusional and violent again. This is crazy! Tx4obama Feb 2014 #6
...^ 840high Feb 2014 #7
Yes and no Warpy Feb 2014 #10
Sorry, no. redwitch Feb 2014 #12
I respectfully suggest you don't know him Warpy Feb 2014 #14
Agreee. Having worked 840high Feb 2014 #17
If you're an undiagnosed schizophrenic, previously peaceable, who wakes from your madness IveWornAHundredPants Feb 2014 #18
Mentally ill inmates kept in 'grossly inadequate' conditions CHIMO Feb 2014 #8
Sorry, but this is INSANE. nt valerief Feb 2014 #11
What an odd, and shocking idea. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2014 #13
Maybe Li's psychiatric team Politicalboi Feb 2014 #19
scizophrenics do better in a controled mackerel Feb 2014 #20
Uh oh. bravenak Feb 2014 #21
Meanwhile, other people are locked up for drug possession (in the USA, anyway). Quantess Feb 2014 #22
hope he's not going for lunch n/t 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #23

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. Holy shit. I remember when this happened. Come on, Canada!
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:27 PM
Feb 2014

Unbelievable. This man attacked a fellow passenger while the poor guy slept--absolutely no warning, just cold-blooded batshit-insane butchery.

 

unreadierLizard

(475 posts)
3. Don't read the comments.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:28 PM
Feb 2014

It's all "give him death penalty" or something stupid like that.

The guy's mentally ill, I get that, but I don't know if he can be trusted outside the hospital by himself.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
5. He's gotten a clearance. Give him a chance. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:50 PM
Feb 2014

I'd also be wearing a chain-mail turtle neck sweater.

Warpy

(111,138 posts)
10. Yes and no
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:56 PM
Feb 2014

Some people are very compliant with their meds, understanding that the often horrific side effects are far better than what happens to them when the delusions start crowding back in.

If he's been a model patient, I say give the poor bastard a chance. I just hope his victim's family doesn't come looking for him.

The brain is the only organ in the human body that is treated like moral failure when it gets ill.

redwitch

(14,941 posts)
12. Sorry, no.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 10:32 PM
Feb 2014

Lots of people aren't compliant with their meds and need to be supervised at all times. Like this guy.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
17. Agreee. Having worked
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:06 AM
Feb 2014

at a most respectable New York psychiatric clinic - I know first hand how many times a patient would stop taking meds when they were feeling good.

 
18. If you're an undiagnosed schizophrenic, previously peaceable, who wakes from your madness
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 12:58 AM
Feb 2014

to discover you've killed, decapitated and eaten another human being, I doubt you ever feel very good.

CHIMO

(9,223 posts)
8. Mentally ill inmates kept in 'grossly inadequate' conditions
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 09:15 PM
Feb 2014

Prisoners with the most acute mental illness are being locked up in prolonged isolation and unkempt, chaotic and "grossly inadequate" conditions, two years after the United Nations called on Canada to end solitary confinement for inmates with mental disorders.

Documents released under Access to Information reveal that the correctional investigator of Canada raised concerns about the isolation, lack of programming and "gross neglect" of maintenance and hygiene at Ontario's Millhaven Institution.

Records also refer to the "chilling" image of a mentally ill offender in leg shackle restraints at the unit that holds prisoners with schizophrenia, major depression and other mental disorders transferred there after the closure of the Regional Treatment Centre in Kingston last fall.

The records, which include photographs, emails and correspondence, were obtained by the John Howard Society of Canada and provided to CBC News Network's Power & Politics.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mentally-ill-inmates-kept-in-grossly-inadequate-conditions-1.2554110


The get even, punish them government in Canada has made the correctional arm of the government a political joke.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
19. Maybe Li's psychiatric team
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:18 AM
Feb 2014

Should take turns boarding him. That way if he kills again, we'll know for sure.

mackerel

(4,412 posts)
20. scizophrenics do better in a controled
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:21 AM
Feb 2014

environment with not a lot of people around and very little over stimulation.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
21. Uh oh.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 02:59 AM
Feb 2014

Wow. Unsupervised? Hmmm. What if he cheeks his meds like I used to? I wasn't even violent, but I hate meds. I wonder if they have all of their bases covered.

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