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Thu Feb 6, 2014, 03:23 PM

Ukraine Leader To Sochi As Kremlin Warns May Act Against "Coup"

Source: REUTERS

(Reuters) - Ukraine's embattled president flew to Russia on Thursday as a senior Kremlin aide urged him to stamp out a standoff on the streets, calling it an attempted coup financed and armed by the United States.

Caught in a rip-tide of competing enticements and threats from Russia and the West, President Viktor Yanukovich flew to Sochi where he was expected to meet Vladimir Putin before the Russian leader opens the Winter Olympics on Friday evening.

The bitter tug-of-war going on between east and west broke out into dirty tricks on the Internet, with what appeared to be online leaks of bugged recordings of top U.S. and EU diplomats discussing efforts to help Yanukovich's opponents into power.

And the Kremlin aide, a key Putin adviser on Ukraine, added to the Cold War ambience of Russia's first Olympics since 1980 by warning that Moscow could intervene to defend Ukraine's sovereignty under the terms of the 1994 pact with the United States under which Kiev gave up nuclear weapons inherited from the Soviet Union.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/06/us-ukraine-idUSBREA151QL20140206

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Reply Ukraine Leader To Sochi As Kremlin Warns May Act Against "Coup" (Original post)
Purveyor Feb 2014 OP
red dog 1 Feb 2014 #1
pampango Feb 2014 #2
dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #3
Purveyor Feb 2014 #4
dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #5
MattSh Feb 2014 #7
dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #8
Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #6

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 04:19 PM

1. Thanks for posting

This is very bad news.

"a senior Kremlin aide urged Yanukovich to 'stamp out' a standof in the streets"?

"Moscow could intervene to defend Ukraine's sovereignty under the terms of the 1994 pact with the United States"?

This is not good!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 04:46 PM

2. "Russian adviser threatens Ukraine with military force"

KIEV, Ukraine Ukrainian protesters said Thursday they have no doubt Russia will intervene militarily in the unrest here if the current Moscow-aligned president gives in to demands for more freedoms and stronger ties to the West.

"Everyone knows that Russia is going to send troops to Ukraine we have known it for a long time now," said Kateryna Chorna of Kiev who has regularly taken part in the anti-government protests that started in November.

"And everyone knows that some of (the Russian troops) are already here but nobody wants to speak openly about it because nobody wants to fight our brothers," she said, referring to a widespread belief that Russian military make up the police force and hired provocateurs trying to sabotage and subdue the protests.

Sergei Glazyev (an adviser to Vladimir Putin) on Thursday accused the United States of funding the Ukrainian "rebels" by as much as $20 million a day for weapons and other supplies. He urged the Ukrainian government to put down the "attempted coup" or Russia may have to to intervene under the terms of a 1994 agreement between the U.S. and Russia, according to the Ukraine edition of the Russian daily Kommersant.

Glazyev said the Ukrainian government needs to spurn outsiders and put down the insurrection with force.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/06/ukraine-protests-russia-military-threats/5259777/

Sounds like the protesters and Putin's adviser agree about one thing anyway. It does not sound good.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 05:29 PM

3. Doesn't sound too healthy.

I had taken it for granted that if , as was mentioned yesterday ,Germany did send in troops form the west that Russia would go in from the East.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:06 PM

4. Then it begins... eom

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:16 PM

5. The USA's sole interest in this situation

is getting Ukraine into the anachronism known as NATO. Exactly the same as with the Georgia debacle.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 7, 2014, 02:11 AM

7. +1000, although it's not the SOLE interest...

Ukrainian Left-Wing Activists' Appeal to UN, EU, and USA: Don't Back Civil War & Fascist Coup in Ukraine! - See more at: http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2014/01/ukrainian-left-wing-activists-appeal-un-eu-and-usa-dont-back-civil-war-fascist-coup-uk#sthash.wVZRxuTe.dpuf

1. The pretext for organizing the Euromaidan in Kiev was the refusal of the Government and the President of Ukraine to sign an Association Agreement with the EU. We draw your attention to the content of this document, for the sake of which the Parliamentary opposition led people to the Maidan. The heart of the Agreement is the complete loss of Ukraine's sovereignty through the transfer to supranational agencies (the Council of Association and the Committee on Trade) of decision-making authority, placing them juridically above the Constitution and laws of Ukraine. It has been unconditionally proven that this contradicts the Declaration on the National Sovereignty of Ukraine, the Constitution of Ukraine, and decisions of the Constitutional Court of Ukraine. It also contradicts the expression of the will of the people of Ukraine in the referenda of March 17 and December 1, 1991.

Implementation of the Association Agreement with the EU would indisputably lead to the destruction of the country's economy, industry, agriculture, service sector, and science.


Definitely read the comments if time permits...

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Response to MattSh (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 7, 2014, 04:50 AM

8. "total annihilation of state property"

Yes that would be the most likely ultimate outcome. The transition cost of joining the proposed EU trade agreement is foreseen to be c. $220 billion - roughly the equivalent of the entire bailout of Greece. Such amounts would be secure against state assets with the chances of repayment being nil and hence the loss of those assets.
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I have pointed out before that there is a material difference between "western ownership" and "Russian influence" as maybe the current state.

Thanks for posting that excellent article about a third of which I've ploughed through - rest later.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:04 PM

6. Well, we could all see THIS one coming up Fifth Avenue!

 

"Czar Vladimir" wants to make that nickname real, and the Ukrainian situation gives him the perfect pretext for Step 1 in rebuilding the Empire.

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