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Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:44 AM

Rich-Poor Gap Widest in Republican-Leaning States, Census Shows

Source: Bloomberg via Yahoo

"The gap between the rich and poor in the U.S. is concentrated most heavily across a large swath of the South and was least apparent in the Midwest, according to a Census Bureau report released yesterday.

Six of the 10 counties with the highest income disparity were in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia and South Carolina, all states with Republican governors that usually back the party's presidential candidates.

The report, covering the years 2006-2010, highlights the paradox of the wealth gap as a political issue between voters in so-called red states that tend to vote Republican and blue states that lean Democratic. A 2007 study found that while inequality is more evident in poor states such as Mississippi, voters there largely favor Republican candidates. In wealthier states, they're more likely to back the other major party.

"In a Democratic state like New York, rich people are a little more conservative than the poor people, but they're socially liberal," Andrew Gelman, a Columbia University political scientist and statistician who led that study, said in a telephone interview. "In a state like Texas, the rich aren't really that conflicted."

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Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/rich-poor-gap-widest-republican-050015465.html



Yep - voting against their best interests. It's what Republicans often do!

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NRaleighLiberal Mar 2012 OP
mackattack Mar 2012 #1
NRaleighLiberal Mar 2012 #3
Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #2
NewJeffCT Mar 2012 #4
treestar Mar 2012 #5
nanabugg Mar 2012 #6
Iliyah Mar 2012 #11
bayareaboy Mar 2012 #7
TBF Mar 2012 #16
TahitiNut Mar 2012 #19
TBF Mar 2012 #20
sarcasmo Mar 2012 #8
bread_and_roses Mar 2012 #9
xtraxritical Mar 2012 #14
nobodyspecial Mar 2012 #10
Proud Public Servant Mar 2012 #12
stuwz Mar 2012 #13
TBF Mar 2012 #17
AlbertCat Mar 2012 #15
onehandle Mar 2012 #18
sakabatou Mar 2012 #21
tmy236 Mar 2012 #22
Doctor_J Mar 2012 #23
underpants Mar 2012 #24
sofa king Mar 2012 #25

Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:53 AM

1. One correction

 

voting against our best interests as a nation. It's what Republicans often do!

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Response to mackattack (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:56 AM

3. good point

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 09:55 AM

2. Paul Krugman observed this five years ago

in his book The Conscience of a Liberal. Historically, repugs have exploited racial prejudice to dupe the poor in that region into voting against their best interests. For instance, it's hardly remembered today, but Harry Truman attempted to get a national healthcare plan passed, but conservatives scared white folks in the south with stories of black people getting treated in hospitals <gasp> alongside them. Sad to say, the politics of fear works on a large segment of society, and the repugs have taken full advantage.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:01 AM

4. I'm sure Republicans will sell this as

Obama and Democrats targeting poor white people in the South and Midwest with their evul so-shul-izm.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:05 AM

5. Just as Republicans like it

Including the authoritarian followers on the bottom (so long as those evil brown people are considered even lower).

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:24 AM

6. The GOP counts on an ignorant voting base to keep them in power.

 

That's why they scoff at being educated. Since a lot of their Red State base is ignorant, little can be done to educate them. They will complain about government while standing in a food stamp line, believeing that they deserve food stamps while others do not.

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Response to nanabugg (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:18 AM

11. Agreed

Thats why they want to totally control who gets educated who doesn't and what they are taught.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:41 AM

7. We csn't say anything because that would ... ...


be class warfare.

I guess the RePUGs figure they have us again.

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Response to bayareaboy (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:44 PM

16. The only class warfare is the war that capital (the top 1%) has been waging against everyone

else. If they figure "they have us" they are sadly mistaken. Some of us are educated and will continue to resist (and lead resistance efforts).

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Response to TBF (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:02 PM

19. Owners vs. Workers ... a "war" of long-standing.

What I find most noxious is the hi-jacking of language, most notably the word "entitlement." Ownership itself is the very embodiment of the word entitlement, which refers solely to a power or 'right' conferred by a Title - which is a legal fiction created solely by law (or fiat) and enforced by the state. We are all familiar with the terms "King" and "Prince" and "Baron" (all titles) ... and we're all familiar with a Title to land or real estate, or even our vehicles. What we seem to disconnect on, mentally, is that they're the very things to which we refer when we use the term entitlement. While the use of that term in reference to Social Security is, in fact, technically correct, it's the far more inequitable powers enforced by the State that lend a negative connotation to the term.

Nowhere is this inequity more evident in today's economy than in the "lion's share" (i.e. might makes right) extracted from an enterprise by the "owner" -- or shareholders. Today's S&P500 corporation distributes more than twice as much of its net income to the 'owners' than it does to those by whose labors such income was created. Yes, Virginia, the workers get less than 30% of the wealth they create in today's corporation. (And the NBA players went on strike because their share was less than 50%!!! Imagine that! Organized labor.)


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Response to TahitiNut (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:07 PM

20. Nice to see you TN -

and I agree with every word.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:43 AM

8. Keep voting against their own interests and this is the outcome they recieve.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:43 AM

9. according to FPI New York State is #1 in income inequality

I don't think the "Blue's" have much to brag about here. Even in the article cited, the author notes:

Still, the gap was also pronounced in large urban areas such as New York County, or Manhattan, which had the highest level of income disparity of any major population center in the U.S. and was third overall.


and we have Gov 1% Cuomo(D) here in NY, of whom it is frequently noted that his positions are often aligned with our R-majority NY Senate.

Anyone trying to make the Ds out as some sort of heros on income inequality has to turn a blind eye to an awful lot of reality.

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Response to bread_and_roses (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:49 AM

14. Well duh,

 

New York city is the worlds most "favored" city. The upper 1% in the entire world gravitate to it as the industrial/cultural mecca of the world. People of modest means find it very difficult to afford to live there, therefor it is not surprising that there is a greater "income gap" there.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:46 AM

10. Well, as long as gays can't marry

and women have a hard time getting contraception and abortions, it's all good.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:35 AM

12. There was an interesting academic study

of a related phenomenon a few years back: Rich State, Poor State, Red State, Blue State: What’s the Matter with Connecticut? (http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/published/rb_qjps.pdf)

The argument, supported by data, is that rich people vote Republican, but rich states vote Democrat; moreover, voting corralates highly with income in poor states, but not so much in rich states. One obvious conclusion (though I don't think the authors draw it) is that policies that enrich the population as a whole also enhance democracy.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:41 AM

13. WHAT? "In a state like Texas, the rich aren't really that conflicted."

So the framing we're supposed to assume/accept by this language is that being both fiscally conservative and socially liberal is a conflict????? Not by a long shot!

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Response to stuwz (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:47 PM

17. Agree - many libertarians are socially liberal

In fact they can be a real mixed bag. I'm thinking especially of the reactionary new libertarians in the computer industries. They want government kept far away so they can keep using their slave labor to make tons of $$$, which they don't want to be taxed on. Individually, however, they are likely to vary widely as to how they view women's issues, LGBT rights, etc...

Welcome to DU.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:39 PM

15. Well... DUH!

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 12:48 PM

18. This is how much Republicans miss the Confederacy. They are building a master/slave society. nt

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:24 PM

21. Shouldn't this be obvious by now?

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:48 PM

22. God must be greatly blessing the exceedingly virtuous in these very devout regions

It sounds plausable, doesn't it?

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 05:18 PM

23. It's Hate Radio and Fox "News"

period

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Sat Mar 10, 2012, 06:26 PM

24. The bubble we live in thanks to the MSM -- specifically Fox News n/t

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Original post)

Sun Mar 11, 2012, 11:16 AM

25. Dammit, this is just unacceptable.

Let nobody say that I am not among the first and most vitriolic critics of conservatives, but to me this is evidence of what happens when authoritarians use fear and hatred to snooker a wide audience into voting against their own best interests.

These people have clearly been harmed by the disingenuous politics of deception, their state-sponsored ignorance turned against them for the profit of the few. They are being exploited, and while it's true that I have less sympathy for them than other groups that are being exploited by the same interests, they too deserve protection from exploitation, damn them.

How do we prevent the Republicans--and anyone else who dares take that course--from manipulating the electorate through fear and hatred? Is it even possible to do so in a republic?

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