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Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:20 PM

Judge orders Texas hospital to remove life support from pregnant, brain-dead woman

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Source: CNN

The Associated Press ‏@AP 1m

BREAKING: Judge orders Texas hospital to remove life support from pregnant, brain-dead woman.

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Fort Worth, Texas (CNN) -- A Texas judge ordered a Fort Worth hospital to remove a pregnant and brain-dead woman from respirators and ventilators on Friday, perhaps ending a wrenching legal debate about who is alive, who is dead and how the presence of a fetus changes the equation.
Erick Munoz, husband of Marlise Munoz, broke down in tears after Judge R.H. Wallace told John Peter Smith Hospital to act on his order by 5 p.m. Monday.
Munoz and other family members had been fighting to have the body released for burial. Hospital officials resisted, saying they were trying to obey a Texas law that says "you cannot withhold or withdraw life-sustaining treatment for a pregnant patient," in the words of the hospital spokesman.
Munoz left the courthouse without talking to reporters, but the family's lawyers spoke out. Jessica Janicek argued that the hospital was "utilizing (Marlise Munoz's) body as a science experiment."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/24/health/pregnant-brain-dead-woman-texas/



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Reply Judge orders Texas hospital to remove life support from pregnant, brain-dead woman (Original post)
Tripper11 Jan 2014 OP
SoapBox Jan 2014 #1
hamsterjill Jan 2014 #12
PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #18
Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #2
BigDemVoter Jan 2014 #3
jeff47 Jan 2014 #4
modrepub Jan 2014 #11
Progressive dog Jan 2014 #19
LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #24
jsr Jan 2014 #30
ralps Jan 2014 #5
JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #9
LongTomH Jan 2014 #6
TexasTowelie Jan 2014 #7
Tx4obama Jan 2014 #8
IcyPeas Jan 2014 #10
ailsagirl Jan 2014 #13
blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #14
tabasco Jan 2014 #23
cosmicone Jan 2014 #15
Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #26
ellenfl Jan 2014 #29
Archae Jan 2014 #16
NYC Liberal Jan 2014 #22
WillyT Jan 2014 #17
Solly Mack Jan 2014 #20
cynatnite Jan 2014 #21
davidpdx Jan 2014 #25
Tx4obama Jan 2014 #27
freshwest Jan 2014 #33
kdmorris Jan 2014 #28
liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #31
Hekate Jan 2014 #32

Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:23 PM

1. Let the battle begin.

Speaking of...what happened to the body of the little girl that had the tonsillectomy?

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:51 PM

12. I was wondering the same thing.

As to the young girl.

And yes...the battle will begin as I'm sure the other side will seek a TRO.

I sincerely hope that this battle ends here and that this family will be allowed to grieve their loss privately. This should NEVER have escalated to this point. It's ludicrous that they had to go to court to allow their wife/daughter to pass with dignity.

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Response to SoapBox (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:50 PM

18. Jahni McMath...

It's been radio silence on her since she left the hospital. I keep checking for news, and not a thing. Strange.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:23 PM

2. Thank the gods.

Now this poor woman's family can finally get some peace.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:24 PM

3. About Goddamn time!!

They've been treating that poor woman like an "incubator."

For Christ's sake, she is DEAD and has been!

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:26 PM

4. May she rest in peace. And may the hospital eat the bill. (nt)

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:47 PM

11. shouldn't the state pay the hospital bill?

It was their law that kept her life support anyway. NPR had one of the authors of the TX bill (Tom Mayo) that the hospital had interpreted as requiring them keep her on life support against her husband's wishes. He said that "in his interpretation" the statute didn't apply (a cop out). Have no idea why he would say that other than even he was appalled at this situation.

NPR Interview: [link:http://www.npr.org/2014/01/23/265358241/the-law-behind-the-texas-life-support-controversy|

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:54 PM

19. I think it's a public hospital

whatever that means in Texas.
May the family now be able to begin to recover.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:46 PM

24. I wish we could make the Texas Republican Party pick up the bill.

This whole situation was disgusting. They were keeping a fetus alive by making a corpse suck air. I can't even express my revulsion by all of this bullshit. Fucking monsters. I just hope this poor family is able to get over it without having nightmares for the rest of their lives. I think they certainly have grounds to sue the state and I hope they win so much that Texas has to raise taxes because of it. May God be with the family. I hope this horror is over soon.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 10:55 PM

30. Most likely Tarrant County homeowners.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:34 PM

5. Here's a link to the article about the judge's court order

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-womans-family-asks-end-life-support-21647348

A judge has ordered a Texas hospital to remove life support for a pregnant, brain-dead woman.

Judge R. H. Wallace Jr. issued the ruling Friday in the case of Marlise Munoz. John Peter Smith Hospital in Fort Worth has been keeping Munoz on life support against her family's wishes.

Munoz was 14 weeks pregnant when her husband found her unconscious Nov. 26, possibly due to a blood clot.

Erick Munoz says he and his wife are paramedics who were clear that they didn't want life support in this type of situation. His attorney argued that keeping the woman alive would set a dangerous precedent.
snip

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Response to ralps (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:39 PM

9. I'm glad he was able honor his wife's wishes

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And commitment and promise to do right by her.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:37 PM

8. An AP link below...

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 05:41 PM

10. the poor family. now they can grieve.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:07 PM

13. Yes, after the heartbreak they'd undergone

with the hospital telling them they were going to keep her "alive," whether the family wanted it or not. Hasn't the family been through enough? Very sad all around.

I just read this:

More than 30 states have laws like that (which) restrict hospitals' ability to withdraw life-saving medical treatment from pregnant patients, according to legal experts.

That's terrible

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:26 PM

14. What a ghastly, indecent, inhumane, & cruel ordeal to put that poor family through, courtesy of TX

forced birthers!

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:33 PM

23. Exactly.

Well said.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:31 PM

15. This will be over fast

No party has standing to appeal the judge's ruling unless the state appeals and argues compelling interest on the part of Texas citizens. I don't think the latter would go far.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:26 PM

26. I don't think anybody wants to appeall it

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:56 PM

29. that's my take. once the judge basically overturned the law keeping her on life support,

no one else should have standing to continue. i'm not an attorney but that would be my guess . . . unless texas has a different criteria for 'standing'. wouldn't be surprised. it could be terri schiavo all over again, just a different state.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:33 PM

16. Terry Schiavo's husband had a court order to remove the feedng tube too.

I took MONTHS after for the politicians to finally be told no more interference.

I have a hunch this will happen again.

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Response to Archae (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:32 PM

22. Remember Shrub rushing to DC in the middle of the night

while he was at the pig farm to sign that bill? I'd never seen him act so quickly on ANYTHING. Not even on 9/11, and not even with Katrina.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 06:39 PM

17. K & R !!!


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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:00 PM

20. Good

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 07:16 PM

21. It hasn't happened yet. They have until 5pm Monday...

I'm not celebrating until they've followed the family's wishes.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 08:52 PM

25. Good news in a very sad case

One thing I wanted to point out from an article that was linked:

But in a joint affidavit stipulating the facts of the case filed shortly before Friday's hearing, it said that "at the time of this hearing, the fetus gestating inside Mrs. Munoz is not viable."


The hospital is saying they agree with the husband that the fetus is not viable. If it is not viable, then using the fact that she is pregnant to keep her on life support goes out the window.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:33 PM

27. The judge gave the hospital until 5 p.m. CST Monday to remove life support.


01/24/14 05:48 PM ET (AP)

Marlise Munoz Case: Life Support For Brain Dead Pregnant Woman To Be Removed

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) A judge on Friday ordered a Texas hospital to remove life support for a pregnant, brain-dead woman whose family had argued that she would not want to be kept in that condition.

Judge R. H. Wallace Jr. issued the ruling in the case of Marlise Munoz. John Peter Smith Hospital in Fort Worth has been keeping Munoz on life support against her family's wishes. The judge gave the hospital until 5 p.m. CST Monday to remove life support.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/24/marlise-munoz-life-support_n_4661938.html

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:54 AM

33. More than enough time for Reverend Rick Perry to intervene since he loves the unborn so much... n/t

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 09:50 PM

28. Finally!!!

How awful for the family to have had to go through this.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:08 PM

31. finally. I hope there is no hold up. The family needs to bury her and be able to grieve their loss.

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Response to Tripper11 (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:50 AM

32. Thank God. May it soon be over, for their sakes. nt

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