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Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:51 PM

Politifact Gives Gov. Christie 'Pants On Fire' Rating For Claim About Traffic Scandal

Source: TPM

HUNTER WALKER – DECEMBER 23, 2013, 2:57 PM EST

Politifact doesn't buy one of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie's (R) claims about the growing scandal over traffic lane closures on the George Washington Bridge last September. On Sunday, the fact checking site's Garden State outpost slapped Christie with a "pants on fire" rating for his claim that three lanes on the bridge were unfairly dedicated to the borough of Fort Lee, N.J.

The closures led to days of gridlock in Fort Lee, and some Democrats have alleged the bridge lanes were shut because the local mayor did not endorse Christie's re-election bid. Christie and his top appointees on the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey, which oversees the bridge, have said the closures were part of a traffic study dedicated to analyzing whether there was a fair number of local access lanes for the town. Christie criticized the number of lanes he said were "dedicated" to Fort Lee earlier this month and reiterated this opinion in a press conference last Thursday.

"The fact that one town has three lanes dedicated to it, that kind of gets me sauced," Christie said on Dec. 2.

However, Politifact determined the local access lanes are not specifically "dedicated" to Fort Lee and are, in fact, open to the public.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/politifact-gives-gov-christie-pants-on-fire-rating-for-claim-about-traffic-scandal



NJ Legislature's Investigation Into Bridge Closure Scandal Will Continue In New Year

HUNTER WALKER – DECEMBER 23, 2013, 4:52 PM EST
The New Jersey legislature's investigation into lane closures on the George Washington Bridge that caused days of gridlock in Fort Lee, N.J. will continue into next year.

Some Democrats have alleged the lanes were closed because a local mayor did not endorse Gov. Chris Christie (R) for re-election. Assemblyman John Wisnieswki, a Democrat and the chairman of the committee that has issued subpoenas in conjunction with the investigation, said Monday that responses to the subpoenas have begun coming in and the documents he has reviewed thus far "continue to raise questions" about the behavior of officials at Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which oversees the bridge.

"It's too early to make any pronouncements other than saying the review of the documents received so far continues to raise questions about the accountability of the Port Authority, the culture that exists that allows these types of things to happen, and how we're going to go about making sure that it doesn't happen again," Wisnieswki told TPM.

The Assembly Transportation Committee issued subpoenas to seven officials involved in the incident demanding any correspondence between members of the Christie administration and Port Authority officials.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 04:55 PM

1. Yeah, but at the end of the year

per their bloggers, the "Lie of the Year" will go to a Dem and like this year be covered by all the corporate media. Don't care for this bullshit so called "fact" shit.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 05:01 PM

2. He lies pretty blatantly, knowing he is a liar...hoping the folks in the rest of the country

won't pay attention to the real facts...

I can see the debate now when he tries his "3 lanes for Ft. Lee" defense..."isn't it true Governor that these are lanes open to the general public and provide crucial access to peoples' jobs on a daily basis?"

And LOOK at the mess it caused!

What is your point, governor?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 05:07 PM

3. Thought it was a "traffic study". Now it is too many lanes for Ft. Lee? Fat man spinning alert!

Christie may have jumped the shark with that one. When the "official story" changes every other news cycle there is some serious shit hitting the proverbial fan.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 05:21 PM

4. That was my first thought too

What happened to the "traffic study"?

When the excuses start changing, it is indeed Pants On Fire time.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:41 PM

13. The "traffic study" story died from exhaustion when several traffic engineers said that closing down

lanes isn't how traffic studies are done. Oops. Pants of fire, indeed. Quite a fire that would be.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 05:37 PM

5. Hope the people of N.J. remember this. Really, it's too late for them, though.

Revealed at a 2009 meeting. Does anyone think he's changed, after seeing him bully a schoolteacher?

With security extraordinary on the seminar's opening night—audio speakers around the periphery of the outdoor dining pavilion blasted out static to thwart eavesdroppers—David Koch introduced Gov. Christie as "my kind of guy." (The two had previously met in private at Koch's New York City office, he revealed.) Before long, seminar attendees were roaring with laughter as Christie regaled them over dessert, telling them how, in his first weeks in office, he'd exercised extraordinary executive powers to impound billions of dollars in planned spending. ("The good news for all of you and for me," he said, "is that the governorship in New Jersey is the most powerful constitutional governorship in America.")

Christie went on to explain how he'd convinced the state's Democratic majority leaders, against the wishes of most of their caucus, to help him slash public-sector pensions and benefits. And he drew a bead on his next major target: public-school teachers and their union. "That's where we head next," Christie said. "We need to take on the teachers' union once and for all, and we need to decide who is determining our children's future, who is running this place. Them or us? I say it's us."

He presented his accomplishments in New Jersey as a model for curing the nation's ills: "We know the answers. They're painful answers. We're going to have to reduce Medicare benefits. We're going to have to reduce Medicaid benefits. We're going to have to raise the Social Security age. We're going to have to do these things. We're going to have to cut all types of other government programs that some people in this room might like."

The speech was classic Christie, but the governor expressed his views to the Koch crowd with a candor that politicians—especially those with a reputation for having mainstream appeal—usually reserve for very select audiences: He called New Jersey Democratic legislators "stupid" for pushing for a tax on the wealthy that he'd previously rejected. He mimicked the voice of his predecessor, Gov. Jon Corzine. And he boldly proclaimed that he'd been elected because "their ideas are wrong and our ideas are right."


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/audio-chris-christie-koch-brothers-seminar

to hue:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337870

Some at DU don't want to hear about the influence of the Koches, or maybe they don't want to hear about ALEX, and want us to focus on others. Yes, there are others, many were at that meeting, and the Koches are host to these meetings all year at various private locations around the country about long term plans.

They are stealing our future and that of our children. Christie a major part of that. Mittens and Ann Romney have pledged to back Christie with their money for a 2016 presidential run. Think of the damage he's going to do to the people of NJ before that time. Like FL, WI and TX, there will be no going back. It'll be permanent.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 07:01 PM

8. We heard that, I think, on Maddow

He's an asshole extraordinaire.

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 07:26 PM

10. And will continue to be through 2016. Yes, I've a lot of Maddow. Also came across a horrible

video flaming Maddow by a celebrity or pundit or preacher. I have tried to forget it. It was posted a few days ago. Extremely hateful. Even considering the source, it was shocking. The wingers are worse than ever. It's going to be even uglier next year.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 05:43 PM

6. Stopped clock, twice a day

Squirrel-nut, etc.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 06:42 PM

7. Thats a pretty big pair of britches he is burning too...

its going to go further.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 07:21 PM

9. U.S. relativism

Come on now, you know the media and the public has a double standard. It is only left to academic historians generations from the point in time, to write that the Republican lied and got away with it. And, America holds to the equality of opinions where the truth and the lie are both relative.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 07:35 PM

11. Ultimately, it's defects in his character . . .

That will doom Christie's presidential ambitions. Bullying being a primary one.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:28 PM

12. Traffic Studies Are Conducted All Of The Time

Sometimes they have a person parked on the side that is doing whatever the study calls for but more often they put a box at the side of the road tethered to a road sign then extend a small rubber tube across the road lanes and it counts axles that run over the tube. In neither case do they close lanes. And that is why the "traffic study" reason never, ever passed the smell test. It is also a factor in the "pants of fire" rating.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:56 PM

14. one town has three lanes dedicated to it, that kind of gets me sauced," Christie said

What a stupid thing to say. As if all of the traffic entering the toll gate originated in Ft. Lee. One assumes that traffic engineers looked at traffic flows and decided how many lanes to dedicate coming from that direction. What gets Christie sauced is that his political appointees retaliated against a political opponent and got caught, thereby putting Christie's ass in the wringer and making him say stupid things.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 23, 2013, 11:08 PM

15. We all know why Christie did this.

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