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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 09:49 AM

CEO to Obama During Contentious Meeting with Top Tech Executives: "Pardon Edward Snowden."

Source: Daily Kos

Executives for the nation's largest technology companies met with President Obama this morning to argue that the NSA's unchecked surveillance is harming their businesses and the overall economic environment in which they operate.

CEOs from over 15 companies including Google, Apple and Microsoft pressed for the president to rein in the NSA's bulk surveillance activities and expressed anger over the government's infiltration of U.S. servers around the world.

During the meeting, Mark Pincus (founder of Zynga) boldly suggested to Obama before the gathered group that Edward Snowden should be pardoned. Pincus, it is important to note, gave $1 million to Obama's Super PAC, Priorities Action USA.

Obama's response: he could not do so.


Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/18/1263679/-CEO-to-Obama-During-Contentious-Meeting-with-Top-Tech-Executives-Pardon-Edward-Snowden#



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Reply CEO to Obama During Contentious Meeting with Top Tech Executives: "Pardon Edward Snowden." (Original post)
silvershadow Dec 2013 OP
daleanime Dec 2013 #1
silvershadow Dec 2013 #8
BlueStreak Dec 2013 #28
djean111 Dec 2013 #2
boomersense Dec 2013 #12
George II Dec 2013 #3
TxGrandpa Dec 2013 #4
former9thward Dec 2013 #6
George II Dec 2013 #27
UpInArms Dec 2013 #20
okaawhatever Dec 2013 #24
Demeter Dec 2013 #5
JoePhilly Dec 2013 #7
snot Dec 2013 #19
OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #9
silvershadow Dec 2013 #10
boomersense Dec 2013 #13
okaawhatever Dec 2013 #25
Hosnon Dec 2013 #11
silvershadow Dec 2013 #29
fbc Dec 2013 #14
djean111 Dec 2013 #18
Ash_F Dec 2013 #15
Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #16
treestar Dec 2013 #17
Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #21
RobertEarl Dec 2013 #22
silvershadow Dec 2013 #23
mother earth Dec 2013 #26
grasswire Dec 2013 #30
silvershadow Dec 2013 #32
politichew Dec 2013 #31
TheKentuckian Dec 2013 #33

Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 09:51 AM

1. Huh?

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Response to daleanime (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:55 AM

8. I know, right? nt

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Response to daleanime (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:49 PM

28. The NSA is squeezing the balls of these companies

They want the NSA reined in because it makes their businesses a lot more complicated, and it puts they at war with their customers.

Their reaction is not surprising at all. Let's see is Obama wises up a little.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 09:52 AM

2. Even if Snowden were pardoned, he could never come back and be safe.

Oh, and clearly - Pincus never loved Obama.
Guess what? This is not about Obama, Obama is just a player in the game. He will be replaced in a few years.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:28 AM

12. Well put. It is hard for some to

 

understand this, but more will next year. And the revolt will hopefully get more serious.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:00 AM

3. Can someone be pardoned if he hasn't been convicted? Isn't the term "amnesty"?

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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:23 AM

4. Nixon?

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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:30 AM

6. Anyone can be pardoned at any time.

Nixon was given a pardon by Ford even though he was never charged with any crime let alone convicted.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:47 PM

27. I guess it's possible, but back at that time there was a huge debate about how...

....Nixon could have been pardoned without being charged.

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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:35 PM

20. Caspar Weinberger comes to mind - he had charges pending against him and was awaiting trial

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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:36 PM

24. Yes. It's basically to stop someone from pressing charges later. Like Nixon. What would have

happened if someone decided to press charges after Ford? Delicious thought, but alas, no such thing.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:30 AM

5. Glad to find SOME CEOs have their heads screwed on right!

Obama can so pardon Snowden, he's just got some severe personality issues with admitting a mistake...and this one was a whopper! Obama is liable for crimes against humanity...and this will be added to the list.

A little humility from our Constitutional Scholar, and some application of his expertise, would be a welcome trend. He's got the rest of his life on the line, here...and he's daily working to see that it's not a life worth living. For him and his family.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:46 AM

7. Cue ominous music.

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Response to Demeter (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:27 PM

19. At least there'd be a prospect of leaving Russia.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:56 AM

9. If Bush can commute the sentence of Scooter Libby,

it would be the least Obama could do for Snowden.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:59 AM

10. Good point. nt

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:29 AM

13. Excellent. nt

 

ddd

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:39 PM

25. Yes, but Bush didn't pardon him. That may be the one of the few good things Bush did. He went head

to head with Cheney over that and their relationship hasn't been the same. It was such a controversial issue between them I have to wonder what the background was?

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:02 AM

11. If this overreach by the NSA is going to be stopped, this is how: $$$.

Companies are justifiably rethinking doing business with American tech companies because the NSA thinks they can do whatever the hell they want. Well - money is what really calls the shots, not spooks reading their ex's emails.

Once enough financial damage is done, the NSA's new toys will be taken away from them.

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Response to Hosnon (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:07 PM

29. I think they are waking up to that little fact. The financial collateral damage is very real, and

it is a real drag on our economy (along with everything else). Of course, the more that is revealed the more the rats are jumping ship anyway, in their own ways- they're trying to distance themselves now from it all. Funny thing though, we haven't actually had the big discussion about the whole thing to begin with. It's as if it's just a given now that the programs are legal and constitutional, and the debate has shifted again and again. Now we are at a place where they are just manipulating the entire dialogue to distract and deflect. I hope the corporate money boys weighing in like this will really have some effect.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:34 AM

14. It's embarrassing that Zynga was invited

How the hell does Zynga get invited to something like this? Answer: by donating to Obama's PAC apparently. Why should we take this meeting as some serious meeting of the tech giants when the leader of a company of such ill repute is invited?

For those unfamiliar with Zynga, go read their wiki page. Their business model was basically to steal games from small independents, and repackage them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zynga#Intellectual_property_controversies_and_litigation

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Response to fbc (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:12 PM

18. This is not about Zynga. It is about the NSA.

Did the other invitees disagree? Do you think Obama held a not-so-serious meeting, just for grins?
Oh, and last time I looked, donating to any politician's PAC in large amounts gets access.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:36 AM

15. The right wing NSA are no ally to Obama

As evidenced by Alexander's behavior and comments

He should do it to stick it in their eye

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:04 PM

16. Now it's obvious who is first in the pecking order

Obama must be licking these CEOs' boots.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:09 PM

17. How interesting

I thought Obama would do the corporatists' bidding, but also that the corporatists never are willing to do the right thing.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:49 PM

21. This is something Obama should do anyway

because it opens the door to grant universal immunity to ALL corporate whistleblowers...

Wouldn't Wall Street be shitting their pants if *that* ever came to pass?

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:36 PM

22. Twofer

Obama should pardon both Snowden and bush, w. at the same time.

He's not gonna be able to prosecute either one so he might as well pardon w.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #22)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:23 PM

23. He can pardon W all he wants, and W will still be a wanted man in some areas of the globe. nt

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:40 PM

26. Please do, President Obama, please do! K & R nt

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:10 PM

30. of course he could do so

The handlers may not want him to do so. But it is within his power to do so.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #30)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:16 PM

32. He should do it at just the right time, after he gets some more agenda items done.

Time's a wastin' on this term. Maybe after the mid-terms. And, he can lose his handlers any time he wants to as far as I am concerned. I much prefer Obama the idealist, the one who ran for President so many years ago now.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:14 PM

31. The man that brought us virtual farms?

 

He doesn't have the credentials to make complex policy decisions outside how many Facebook friends someone needs to help build a fake barn.

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Response to silvershadow (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 05:02 PM

33. He totally can, he will not.

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