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alp227

(32,015 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:59 PM Dec 2011

Romney sees choice between ‘entitlement society’ and ‘opportunity society’

Mitt Romney framed the 2012 presidential election in a speech here Tuesday night as a choice between an “entitlement society” dependent on government welfare and an “opportunity society” that enables businesses to flourish.

Trying to sharpen the contrast between himself and President Obama, Romney delivered what his campaign billed as a closing argument as Republican voters prepare to select a nominee in Iowa and in New Hampshire. Romney looked past his GOP opponents to present a preview of the campaign he would wage in a general election with Obama.

“Even if we could afford the ever-expanding payments of an entitlement society, it is a fundamental corruption of the American spirit,” Romney said. “The battle we face today is more than a fight over our budget. It is a battle for America’s soul.”

Romney delivered a speech, complete with teleprompters, before more than 150 supporters inside the picturesque Bedford Town Hall. In his 13-minute address, Romney lamented the “invisible boot of government” that he warned would bring the country down. In Obama’s “entitlement society,” Romney said, “everyone receives the same or similar rewards, regardless of education, effort and willingness to take risk.”

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-sees-choice-between-entitlement-society-and-opportunity-society/2011/12/20/gIQAjXH57O_story.html

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Romney sees choice between ‘entitlement society’ and ‘opportunity society’ (Original Post) alp227 Dec 2011 OP
False dichotomy framed by outright lies Prophet 451 Dec 2011 #1
Fuck Romney and his 150 supporters. JBoy Dec 2011 #2
The old GOP dog whistles PSPS Dec 2011 #3
Now that's what I want to hear! izquierdista Dec 2011 #4
Funny, when I read the head line EC Dec 2011 #5
Yeah, let's get out there and hump like bunnies until we're 80 BeyondGeography Dec 2011 #6
He is right nineteen50 Dec 2011 #7
Agreed primavera Dec 2011 #19
Entitlement: You banked it, you're entitled to it back. Opportunity: I can steal it so I will. saras Dec 2011 #8
Wasn't Romney's dad a governor? JDPriestly Dec 2011 #9
By the CON ideology the Lucky Sperm Club(TM) like Romney's family alp227 Dec 2011 #11
Romney's world... SOS Dec 2011 #21
Oh boy, new buzzwords to spin against "Income Inequality"! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #10
I love it when these government. sendero Dec 2011 #12
Torches and Pitchforks. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #26
too reminiscent of Bush's "ownership society" aletier_v Dec 2011 #13
Opportunity for who? Taxes and Income Mobility keep dropping. Shoe Horn Dec 2011 #14
Same as 'Ownership Society' Kingofalldems Dec 2011 #15
How about the people-who-like-to-eat-more-than-once-a-day society? Vinca Dec 2011 #16
This freak knows nothing about any actual real society, but that of richie rich. Fuck him and his lonestarnot Dec 2011 #17
Onehandle sees choice between ‘status quo society’ and ‘total enslavement society’ nt onehandle Dec 2011 #18
Considering the entitlements Mormons give their own when they are in need Ferret Annica Dec 2011 #20
So he wants additional opportunties for businesses LiberalFighter Dec 2011 #22
Trouble with that is canetoad Dec 2011 #23
"So old Republican people, please vote for me so I can remove all of your entitlements!" high density Dec 2011 #24
Poor and disabled people vote for me so I can take away all of your entitlements. sarcasmo Dec 2011 #25
They go on and on about that treestar Dec 2011 #27
which side is he on? Entitlements for the rich or the opportunity for the rich to fleece us without yurbud Dec 2011 #28
That is pretty much the definition of "business" these days, and past decades, isn't it? Trillo Dec 2011 #30
"Let's put some lipstick on this pig." nt bemildred Dec 2011 #29
Dear Mittens- Your birth made you entitled to far more opportunities then the rest of us. Marrah_G Dec 2011 #31

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
1. False dichotomy framed by outright lies
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:10 PM
Dec 2011

I would very much like violence to befall those promoting this asinine idea that government is, by definition, antithetical to freedom.

PSPS

(13,590 posts)
3. The old GOP dog whistles
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:14 PM
Dec 2011

You pay into an insurance policy (Social Security) all of your working life. Then, when you retire, you get payments. In the real world, that's a defined benefit plan. But people like to call it an "entitlement" implying it's a handout (extra points if it subconsciously conjures up thoughts of 'lazy Negroes.')

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
4. Now that's what I want to hear!
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:19 PM
Dec 2011

Let's get rid of the entitled ones who are dependent on government welfare!

EC

(12,287 posts)
5. Funny, when I read the head line
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:25 PM
Dec 2011

I was thinking that he was part of the "entitlement society" and we were the "opportunity society".


Aren't the rich the "entitled" in their minds?

BeyondGeography

(39,369 posts)
6. Yeah, let's get out there and hump like bunnies until we're 80
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:25 PM
Dec 2011

Because Mr. Spoonfed says so.

Go fuck yourself.

primavera

(5,191 posts)
19. Agreed
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:21 AM
Dec 2011

The aristocracy's perception of itself as entitled to own 99% of the nation's wealth is obscene.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
9. Wasn't Romney's dad a governor?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:29 AM
Dec 2011

I guess he would know a lot about opportunity. He probably had many more opportunities than the rest of us. Talk about the 1%. That is Romney.

George Wilcken Romney (July 8, 1907 – July 26, 1995) was an American businessman and Republican Party politician. He was chairman and CEO of American Motors Corporation from 1954 to 1962, the 43rd Governor of Michigan from 1963 to 1969, and the United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1969 to 1973. He is the father of former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney and the husband of former Michigan U.S. Senate candidate Lenore Romney.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

alp227

(32,015 posts)
11. By the CON ideology the Lucky Sperm Club(TM) like Romney's family
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 03:37 AM
Dec 2011

should be an entitlement system.

SOS

(7,048 posts)
21. Romney's world...
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:52 PM
Dec 2011

Arrange for your father to be CEO of American Motors.
Use those connections to make a quarter billion on Wall Street.
Use your hedge fund to specialize in M&A to destroy as many American jobs as possible.
Arrange an exit deal that pays you millions for doing nothing.

Mitt complains about imagined "entitlements", but he is quite
comfortable being entitled.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
12. I love it when these government.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 07:39 AM
Dec 2011

... FUCKS come up with this line of bullshit (from BOTH parties).

Hey FUCKS! There is one "opportunity" for every 5 people in the USA because you FUCKS have shipped all of our manufacturing jobs overseas, you are busy importing cheap labor to do almost everything else and then you have the FUCKING GALL to talk about opportunity? You have allowed the banking system to leverage itself into oblivion, backstopping their greed with our tax dollars and you talk about opportunity? You have gutted the constitution in the name of a phony ass war on terror and you talk about opportunity?

I can think of a few opportunities that desperate Americans will be taking in the not too distant future and you are not going to come out good when they do.

aletier_v

(1,773 posts)
13. too reminiscent of Bush's "ownership society"
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 07:43 AM
Dec 2011

Where is Romney's campaign manager to warn him about this?

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
16. How about the people-who-like-to-eat-more-than-once-a-day society?
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:01 AM
Dec 2011

I can't believe we've got months and months and months to go of this bullshit.

 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
17. This freak knows nothing about any actual real society, but that of richie rich. Fuck him and his
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:11 AM
Dec 2011

horse.

 

Ferret Annica

(1,701 posts)
20. Considering the entitlements Mormons give their own when they are in need
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 10:40 AM
Dec 2011

this is high hypocrisy on his part indeed.

LiberalFighter

(50,869 posts)
22. So he wants additional opportunties for businesses
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:06 PM
Dec 2011

to screw consumers, screw their employees, screw the communities, and rip off the government?

And there is a reason why they are entitlements. Because for the most part we paid for them.

Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid. We paid for it with our taxes and the taxes that employers pay on our behalf. Those taxes that employers pay on our behalf are in true sense from employee wages.

Unemployment. We paid for it when employers pay the insurance and again in the true sense they are part of the employee wages.

high density

(13,397 posts)
24. "So old Republican people, please vote for me so I can remove all of your entitlements!"
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 07:49 PM
Dec 2011

After all, people like me need more tax cuts.

Kthx- Willard M. Romney

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. They go on and on about that
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 01:01 PM
Dec 2011

As if it meant something!

Gawd, they are stupid!

No, social safety nets do not make everyone entitled. Jesus Christ on a trailer hitch!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
28. which side is he on? Entitlements for the rich or the opportunity for the rich to fleece us without
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 01:03 PM
Dec 2011

bailouts?

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
30. That is pretty much the definition of "business" these days, and past decades, isn't it?
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:03 PM
Dec 2011

I wonder whether Romney's refusal to disclose tax returns is based in opportunity or entitlement, or the third curious possibility, both of them.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
31. Dear Mittens- Your birth made you entitled to far more opportunities then the rest of us.
Fri Dec 23, 2011, 03:23 PM
Dec 2011

So please STFU.

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