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Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:19 PM

Issa Fishes For Proof Obama Knew He Lied About Obamacare

Source: TPM

DYLAN SCOTT – DECEMBER 2, 2013, 6:41 PM EST

House Oversight Chair Darrell Issa (R-CA) sent letters Wednesday to 15 insurance companies demanding copies of their correspondence with the Obama administration in an effort to determine if the administration knew in advance that people could lose access to their doctors or have their existing health insurance policies canceled under Obamacare.

The letters were sent to major insurance companies -- Aetna, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Humana, Kaiser Permanente, UnitedHealth Group among them. Issa asks for a response by Dec. 13.

Issa is looking for a few pieces of information. Did insurance companies know that the president would say that Americans could keep their health plan or their provider? Did they inform the administration that some plans would be canceled or provider networks changed? Did they object to that characterization?

He also asked for "all ... communications" between company employees and members of the Obama administration since the Affordable Care Act was signed into law in March 2010. There is another request for interactions between insurance company employees about the accuracy of Obama's "keep your doctor" pledge.



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/issa-obamacare-letter-insurance-companies

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Reply Issa Fishes For Proof Obama Knew He Lied About Obamacare (Original post)
DonViejo Dec 2013 OP
SoapBox Dec 2013 #1
BeyondGeography Dec 2013 #2
merrily Dec 2013 #19
madokie Dec 2013 #32
merrily Dec 2013 #33
The Wielding Truth Dec 2013 #43
merrily Dec 2013 #44
Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #3
Dustlawyer Dec 2013 #7
George II Dec 2013 #30
Thinkingabout Dec 2013 #37
George II Dec 2013 #38
Deep13 Dec 2013 #4
aggiesal Dec 2013 #5
maddiemom Dec 2013 #15
AlbertCat Dec 2013 #23
aggiesal Dec 2013 #27
merrily Dec 2013 #34
Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #6
PeoViejo Dec 2013 #22
hrmjustin Dec 2013 #8
Cha Dec 2013 #9
Hubert Flottz Dec 2013 #10
trusty elf Dec 2013 #11
Skittles Dec 2013 #12
TrollBuster9090 Dec 2013 #13
madrchsod Dec 2013 #14
cynzke Dec 2013 #45
Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #16
Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2013 #17
AlbertCat Dec 2013 #24
bigdarryl Dec 2013 #18
zonkers Dec 2013 #20
mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #21
ashling Dec 2013 #25
merrily Dec 2013 #35
ashling Dec 2013 #40
merrily Dec 2013 #41
EC Dec 2013 #26
merrily Dec 2013 #36
EC Dec 2013 #28
Marie Marie Dec 2013 #29
Roland99 Dec 2013 #31
yurbud Dec 2013 #42
mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #39

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:28 PM

1. Arggggggghhhhhhh!



p.s...Talk about "over reaching government"! AND more wasting of tax payer dollars.

Guess TeaPukes, that hate those things, love those things...will ABC, CBS, CNN, etc. cover the over reach?

Sure.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:36 PM

2. Wile E. Coyote's Acme Investigations strikes again

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:28 PM

19. LOL!

Regardless of how anyone does or doesn't feel about Obama, this is a waste of time.

They would only hurt themselves if they tried to impeach him; and I think they know that. So, what's the point of trying to discredit a president who cannot run again anyway?

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Response to merrily (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:13 AM

32. They don't want a person of color to ever have a chance of winning the Whitehouse ever again

thats what they're working on.
they'll treat the first woman president the same way they've treated Obama too and for the same reason.

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Response to madokie (Reply #32)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:16 AM

33. Sadly, I think it's going to be while before another African American is POTUS.

So, they can probably give that a rest.

Not so sure about the "of color" part, though. That takes in a lot of territory, including Asian Americans and Cuban Americans whom the right seem to love (and vice versa).

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Response to merrily (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:39 PM

43. i don't. Barack has done an excellent job of staying the republican decimation plan without

civil war. Another black national leader would be welcome by the majority and as long as we can fend off the Republican kill plans for our democracy and another person of color should be elected president again and soon.

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Response to The Wielding Truth (Reply #43)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:41 PM

44. What can I say? I very much hope that you are correct, but gut is still saying otherwise.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:39 PM

3. This information wil be available as soon as Issa shows proof of ownership of the vehicles at the

Time he took possession of them. The GOP must be desperate when they even allowed Issa to be on the oversight committee. So far he has only been successful at blowing smoke.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:29 PM

7. The GOP is not desperate, that is the plan. Issa's job is to blow smoke up everybody's ass

until, and unless something real comes along. I will say that Obama had to know that some doctors would not take the new plan their patient got because they switched insurance companies. You would think that they would have known that with all of the changes required by the Affordable Care Act that some policies would be canceled.
Having said that, so what? Big deal. It still is a vast improvement in coverage and protections for almost everyone. Can we improve upon it, certainly! Will Issa move to try to Impeach Obama, certainly! He is a shit-head!

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:05 AM

30. Who better at ferreting out "crimes" than a convicted criminal himself?

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Response to George II (Reply #30)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:25 AM

37. Issa was not convicted of a crime and is attempting to create illusions of wrongdoing

and attempts to cover the truth.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:27 AM

38. He pleaded guilty, "technically" a conviction

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 10:56 PM

4. Even though he told the truth. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:16 PM

5. Let's just say . . .

Even if Obama lied,
what crime did he commit?

I'm sure Issa lies more in 1 day
then Obama has in his career.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 11:12 AM

15. Same "crime" Bill Clinton committed?

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:26 PM

23. Was Obama under oath?

Was it in the SOTU address?

Did we go to war over it?

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:45 PM

27. Clinton denied having sex . . .

with that woman . . . under oath.

Obama was not under oath.

If Issa were to prosecute every politician that told
a little white lie, Issa would be first in line.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #15)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:18 AM

34. When did Obama perjure himself?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:17 PM

6. I think Issa knows the scandals he investigates exist only in his narrow mind

Therefore, I call on Mr. Issa to investigate himself.

I also call on Issa's constituents in Vista, California, to find a more suitable person to represent them in Congress.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:22 PM

22. Perhaps they don't want Issa back..

..or the whole election was just to get him out of town.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:45 PM

8. It is a shame this guy is still in congress.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2013, 11:52 PM

9. Issanasshole gots to have something to keep from doing any

real work in the House of Rep.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:45 AM

10. Issa finds so many new ways to...

increase the deficit with his bullshit witch hunts! I think he might even top Mitch as the most disgusting POS in Washington.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:17 AM

11. trying to start another fire....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:27 AM

12. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:53 AM

13. I've got an idea: How about an Executive Order that ALL GOVERNMENT EMAILS be CC'd to Daryll Issa?

That way, every time something F#%ks up, he can't claim he didn't have advanced notice.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 07:49 AM

14. they will ignore him.

he`ll subpoena they and they`ll send their lawyers to stonewall. by that time congress will be on summer recess.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:44 PM

45. Just What Insurance Companies Want.

Having to turn over private correspondence that might prove embarrassing to insurance companies and pulled in to testify in a televised hearing. Not only will they not cooperate and have to be subpoenaed, bet there will be a whole lot of hollering behind scenes demanding the plug be pulled on this investigation.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:03 PM

16. C'mon California

Why hasn't Daryl Arsonist been voted out yet? Is he in a gerrymandered district?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:07 PM

17. The answer lies....at an embassy....in Benghazi......

....IN THE BASEMENT!!!!

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 02:29 PM

24. Let's save all questions til after the hearing....ok?

And y'all have been my best group ever.... no really.....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:08 PM

18. Is this MOTHERFUCKER SERIOUS!!!!

Even if and it's a big if the President did lie intentionally what they want to impeach him for lying

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 12:56 PM

20. Keep fishing, fish face. Benghazi, IRS, Fast n Furious. You are zero for three.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 01:20 PM

21. Issa is Kangaroo Court Crazy, Why did the RGOP ask Nothing during Bush, Hate Rages On...........

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 04:22 PM

25. Remeber, "READ MY LIPS, No New Taxes"

Remember - when he raised taxes anyway - all the subpoenas for all correspondence between Bush's lips to find out what they really said

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Response to ashling (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:21 AM

35. See, people read his lips wrong. He actually said, "No nude Texans."

But, because of the poor lip reading skills of Republicans, Ross Perot had to run.

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Response to merrily (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:45 AM

40. Well I would be against that policy, too

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Response to ashling (Reply #40)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:52 AM

41. Who wouldn't be against it? (Yet, Bush Number 2 gave his nude self-portrait in the tub.)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 05:43 PM

26. So what?

Even if he knew he was lying, what law was broken? Is it treason? Issa is the bottom of the barrel of scum as far as I'm concerned. He should have been a loan-shark.

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Response to EC (Reply #26)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:23 AM

36. You don't even want to know if your President deliberately lied to you?

I mean, we pay his salary and let him live like an emperor for 8 years and you don't think we deserve truth from a POTUS?

That is a bridge too far for me.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2013, 09:49 PM

29. Yes and we all know what a great fisherman Issa is...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:05 AM

31. How many inquiries did Issa call over the Bush admin lies over invading Iraq?

I'm gonna guess ZERO

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #31)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:09 PM

42. about as many as Republicans questions W's sex life when the Jeff Gannon scandal broke

We got a decade of investigations into Bill Clinton's consensual sex life, but no Republicans cared to ask why a gay hooker posed as a reporter, and in addition to lobbing softball questions at Bush during his press conference, checked in when there were no press events and didn't check out.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 09:40 AM

39. A provision of the 1995 Lobbying Disclosure Act, called the “Simpson Amendment,” prohibits Section 5

Law For Change - Section 501 (c) (4) exemption "Exclusivly"

A nonprofit corporation or nonprofit LLC (state law permitting) that is organized exclusively for the promotion of social welfare may obtain a federal income tax exemption under Section 501(c)(4) of the Code. Exemption under this section will not give donors a charitable deduction but it may enable the organization to avoid the restrictions of private foundation status and the restrictions on lobbying.

http://www.lawforchange.org/lfc/Section_501_(c)_(4)_exemption.asp

Issa opened acan of worms "Exclusivly" on this one!

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