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Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:14 PM

Obama won't attend remembrance for 150th anniversary of Gettysburg Address

Source: AP

GETTYSBURG, Pa. (AP) — President Barack Obama will not attend next month’s event marking the 150th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address in Pennsylvania, national park officials said.

U.S. Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell will instead represent the administration the Nov. 19 sesquicentennial, officials at Gettysburg National Military Park said Wednesday.

Jewell and historian James McPherson will share the role of keynote speaker. Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett also plans to attend the ceremony.

McPherson, a top Civil War historian who won the Pulitzer for “Battle Cry of Freedom,” said he was surprised by Obama’s decision.

Read more: http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2013-10-31/obama-wont-attend-remembrance-150th-anniversary-gettysburg-address

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Reply Obama won't attend remembrance for 150th anniversary of Gettysburg Address (Original post)
TexasTowelie Oct 2013 OP
geek tragedy Oct 2013 #1
russspeakeasy Oct 2013 #2
George II Oct 2013 #24
russspeakeasy Oct 2013 #46
Arcanetrance Oct 2013 #4
2naSalit Oct 2013 #29
heaven05 Oct 2013 #3
PatrynXX Oct 2013 #5
heaven05 Oct 2013 #7
Warpy Nov 2013 #51
dbackjon Oct 2013 #6
George II Oct 2013 #25
CFLDem Oct 2013 #28
George II Oct 2013 #31
CFLDem Oct 2013 #33
24601 Oct 2013 #34
treestar Nov 2013 #53
MyNameGoesHere Oct 2013 #43
Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #42
Myrina Nov 2013 #61
dbackjon Nov 2013 #67
CreekDog Oct 2013 #39
msanthrope Nov 2013 #62
KY5 Nov 2013 #63
dbackjon Oct 2013 #8
Condem Oct 2013 #10
awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #19
Psephos Nov 2013 #48
awoke_in_2003 Nov 2013 #50
dbackjon Nov 2013 #68
George II Oct 2013 #32
theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #36
840high Oct 2013 #44
LanternWaste Nov 2013 #66
Quantess Oct 2013 #9
dbackjon Oct 2013 #14
Quantess Oct 2013 #15
JoePhilly Oct 2013 #23
theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #37
Quantess Oct 2013 #40
hughee99 Nov 2013 #54
Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #17
JoePhilly Oct 2013 #18
Quantess Oct 2013 #21
840high Oct 2013 #45
Zambero Oct 2013 #11
dbackjon Oct 2013 #13
Journeyman Oct 2013 #12
NYC Liberal Oct 2013 #16
madrchsod Oct 2013 #20
truthisfreedom Oct 2013 #22
BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #30
2naSalit Oct 2013 #35
JI7 Oct 2013 #26
zipplewrath Oct 2013 #27
Psephos Oct 2013 #38
Quantess Oct 2013 #41
Psephos Oct 2013 #47
truthisfreedom Nov 2013 #49
Drale Nov 2013 #52
Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #55
geek tragedy Nov 2013 #56
Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #57
geek tragedy Nov 2013 #58
Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #59
geek tragedy Nov 2013 #60
winter is coming Nov 2013 #64
KY5 Nov 2013 #65

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:23 PM

1. Somebody call Fox News with this vitally important story! nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:26 PM

2. I think they did. "OBAMA HATES LINCOLN".

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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:53 PM

24. Or..."Obama backs slavery"!

Unfortunately this "story" doesn't say anything specific about any "decision" that Obama might have made (indeed, if it was his decision in the first place) or what he may have scheduled for the same day.

I hate these half-stories with negative headlines posted to obviously bash Obama on something.

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Response to George II (Reply #24)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 09:25 PM

46. + 1.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:30 PM

4. Patriotism,merica,kenyan muslim, benghazi !!!!!!!

I think that about sums up their entire report

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Response to Arcanetrance (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:17 PM

29. !!!



How right you are!

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:26 PM

3. probably can't guarantee security

probably too dangerous.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:33 PM

5. Especially since the KKK

tried to protest there but were prevented because of some Government shutdown they voted for (Irony)

Still one just doesn't skip out on the 150th that'll hurt him some

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Response to PatrynXX (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:39 PM

7. well

better hurt politically than shot or worse. I just don't trust the right wing wackos out there that hate the color of our POTUS. It's an inescapable fact that someone of that ilk, gungeoneer and all would try to do something stupid at a high profile event that at it's inception was a call to allow men like our POTUS the chance to be who they can be. I'm in total agreement with our POTUS. Maybe he can offer a few words from the East Room or something.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:28 AM

51. That would be my guess

In any case, Gettysburg is best experienced alone or in a small group, not with a bunch of flag waving hooplah.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:39 PM

6. Suprising - hopefully he has something much more important to do that day

If not, just another tone-deaf gaffe by Obama

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:55 PM

25. Do you KNOW it was Obama's decision?

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Response to George II (Reply #25)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:04 PM

28. Because the buck should stop with him.

 

He is the most powerful person in the world after all (regardless of what Forbes says)

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:21 PM

31. So the most powerful person in the world, who just may have something IMPORTANT to do...

...that day, should cancel so he can attend an anniversary ceremony?

Does everyone know that there are no state visits scheduled that day, or important legislative duties to attend to, or whatever?

All anyone knows is that he won't be attending, not that he made a conscious decision to NOT attend or that something else is going on already that day.

Ah, but it's a great opportunity to find fault AGAIN - basically "shoot first, aim later".

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:28 PM

33. I never made a judgement call

 

regarding his decision to not attend. I'm just saying that the decision to attend is ultimately his and his alone.

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Response to 24601 (Reply #34)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 12:20 PM

53. lol pootie poot can make it!



Fourscore and seven years ago, his fathers brought forth a communist conspiracy.

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Response to George II (Reply #31)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:41 PM

43. He probably didn't know it was coming up

The way I hear it, his people don't tell him things.

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #28)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:35 PM

42. Glad you hold him in such high esteem, to few do not....

 

Some would argue that point depending on your own personal perspective and influence...

http://time100.time.com/2013/04/18/time-100/slide/all/

He may be influential, Important and POTUS of a major world power. However he is also held to the three branches of Government thing, just ask Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, John Boehner, Pope Francis, Angela Merkel, Kim Jong Un.... on and on and on!

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Response to CFLDem (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:25 PM

61. Actually, the buck should stop with his Security Detail in situations like this.

If they say "Sorry, Mr. Prez, you need to stay home" then so be it.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #61)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:18 PM

67. So you are saying that the President can visit national parks in his own country?

Sickening.

And any place can be made secure

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:16 PM

39. He's just the president, what would he have to do that is important?

can't think of anything.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:24 PM

62. This has to do with PA gov. Corbett's re-election campaign. Keep your powder

dry, and wait for this thing to shake out.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:31 PM

63. Just not feeling like it is a good enough reason for me.

 

It probably gets tiresome being expected to attend every symbolic event.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:41 PM

8. The more I think about this, the more Obama has some explaining to do

He had no problem using the Old State Capitol Building as a prop to launch his election campaigns, and tried to tie himself to the spirit of Lincoln then.


The Gettysburg Address was a defining moment for the country. Anyone important should be there for the commemoration.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:47 PM

10. Tend to agree with you, dbackjon....

...but looking back to the 100th commemoration, Kennedy was invited and chose not to attend. He was needed in Texas for political purposes. LBJ went in his stead.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:32 PM

19. Hopefully your "concern" is noted. nt

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #19)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:32 AM

48. Your meta-"concern" is also noted.

Perhaps you would prefer unanimity of opinion.

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Response to Psephos (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:24 AM

50. The person I responded to...

seems to have one aim in this thread- taking jabs at the president. Another post said it was another "tone deaf gaffe by Obama". It is clear what that one is up to.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #50)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:21 PM

68. So I posted twice. BFD

I think this is a mistake by the PRESIDENT I VOTED FOR TWICE.

I will criticize him when I feel he is wrong. And I will not be cowed by those that think any criticism is wrong. We are not the Republican Party with their so called 11th Commandment.


IMO (this is a discussion board) HE IS SCREWING UP. You obviously don't think so. Fine.


BUT DO NOT TRY TO ASSIGN A MOTIVE TO ME.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:22 PM

32. "He had no problem using the Old State Capitol Building as a prop to launch his election campaigns".

He wasn't President then, running the most powerful country in the world.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:48 PM

36. +1

Totally agree.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:47 PM

44. +2

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:37 PM

66. What are the precise and relevant memorials each and every president should attend...?

What are the precise and relevant memorials each and every president should attend without fail and without question, and on what objective measure is that list based on?



Or is this simply a "gut feeling" one may have about what others absolutely must do?

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:43 PM

9. ... And?

Who gives a shit?

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Response to Quantess (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:52 PM

14. I do. Millions will.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:01 PM

15. How come not enough people gave two shits when G.W.Bush and Cheney committed war crimes

serious enough so that those two assholes can never set foot in some countries without getting arrested?

Obama ignores some important day, and all hell breaks loose. All this tongue clicking, tsk-tsk, and acting as though this is terrible behavior for a leader. Where are our priorities?

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Response to Quantess (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:44 PM

23. Agree completely ... its more of the same old manufactured outrage that gets pushed

around the internet.

If Obama went, the right would say he was rubbing the South's nose in their Civil War loss.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #15)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:59 PM

37. Overstated much?

You call this "all hell breaks loose"? Really?

Speaking only for myself, I'm very disappointed that the President has chosen to ignore one of the defining moments of this nation. In protest against the Iraq war I also drove halfway across the country to camp out at Crawford Ranch.

Disappointed by the current President's decision and enraged by that of the former President. It's not one or the other.

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Response to theHandpuppet (Reply #37)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:23 PM

40. Proportionally speaking, yes, there is way too much outrage.

Bush and Cheney are convicted war criminals, in some countries. It was not that long ago, either. My, how soon people forget...

Not saying that you have forgotten the very recent abuse of the good standing of our name as United States of America because of the corrupt, evil, Bush Administration. Those fucking assholes nearly destroyed our country, and yet they still walk free.

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:15 PM

17. Feel free to make a trip to PA and do your own commemoration...

If it really means that much to you....

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Response to dbackjon (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:30 PM

18. Are there that many Tea Party members left?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #18)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:39 PM

21. What? Sorry to offend, and I really do mean that.

However, when we just recently had two war criminals in the highest ranking office, and everybody yawns...
Why do I need to be outraged when Obama fails to notice an important date?

Edit do add: oops, I thought you were replying to me. My mistake, never mind.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 07:48 PM

45. More people than you think.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:50 PM

11. Commemorating historic events is fine, however...

we're living in the present day and there are enough real issues for a POTUS to contend with on any given day.

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Response to Zambero (Reply #11)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:52 PM

13. This is more than just any historic event

One of the top ten defining moments of the nation.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 03:51 PM

12. The Secretary of the Interior. . .

to mark the moment that remade the nation . . .

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:09 PM

16. Not a big deal.

I suppose this is the new faux "scandal" though.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:37 PM

20. there`s no way in hell could they protect him

because of the political climate in this country it would be foolish to have him go to gettysburg.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 04:41 PM

22. I agree. Obama could argue that it's not fiscally responsible

for him to attend this type of event.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:19 PM

30. My first thought as well eom

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:43 PM

35. I agree with you

and SKIP about the event.

There will be all those re-enactors who will want to bring their black powder gunz and all that. They would be pissed if they had to disarm because Obama was there and there is too much potential for disruption all around.

As Jeff Foxworthy might say, "There's gonna be 1400 civil war re-enactors there and the first black president of the US all in one national park where a defining battle where the south lost happened... you just KNOW we're gonna mess that up."

revised joke Jeff Foxworthy made before the Olympics were held in Atlanta regarding the hundreds of live doves that were to be released for the opening ceremony and all the bird hunters that live in the region... from memory


Actual joke:


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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:00 PM

26. i would like for him to attend this but i can understand why, they know what a lot of the

opposition to him is about .

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:03 PM

27. Tough act to follow

You really want to be the guy that has to write a speach to follow up the Gettysburg Address?

Tough act to follow.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:13 PM

38. bad optics from the man who was sworn into office with his hand on Lincoln's Bible n/t

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Response to Psephos (Reply #38)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 06:34 PM

41. Bad optics? What the hell is that?

Old-fangled eyeglasses for "foureyes"? I don't get what you are saying.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #41)

Thu Oct 31, 2013, 10:00 PM

47. It's a political term.

It applies when a politician does something that technically isn't bad, but looks bad anyway. Generally, the optics problem is invisible to the inner circle, else it wouldn't happen.

Political power depends directly on image and perception. Politicians understand that often, appearance equals or even trumps substance. Great politicians bring appearance and substance into agreement.

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Response to Psephos (Reply #47)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 01:40 AM

49. He could make a brief statement from the Oval Office. Or the Lincoln Memorial.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 10:28 AM

52. Hmm I wonder why

Gettysburg is not that far from Washington, hell you can see the Capital Building on a clear day from the top of the Pennsylvania State Monument. If I had the time and the means I would love to be there for that but unfortunately I don't.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:35 PM

55. I'm surprised at what gets called outrage around here.

A few people have said that they don't agree with the President's decision, and that's outrage? Hardly. I think he should go, it's only an hour or so from DC, but if security is too hard to set up, then so be it. I'm disappointed but certainly not 'outraged' and I think I should be allowed to say so without being impugned.

On another note: I wonder if Lincoln ever imagined a black president standing in that same place, 150 years later? And I wonder if he thought it would take so long for the first black prez to be elected?

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Response to Sheldon Cooper (Reply #55)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:47 PM

56. Which civil war events' 150th anniversary does one pick and choose to commemorate

though?

Battle of Gettysburg 150th Anniversary was in July--was that a lesser deal than the address?

Emancipation Proclamation? Appomattox? passage of thirteenth amendment?

This seems like a part of a wingnut manufactured outragefest, which if you google "Obama gettysburg" you'll see is going on right now.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:50 PM

57. I fancy myself a bit of a civil war buff, and my first choice of an event for Obama would be this

one. Like I tried to say, it's not the end of the fucking world if he doesn't go. But seeing as how it's so close to DC, and it's really pretty historic, it would be nice if he could get up there. It's hardly 'outrage' to be disappointed about it.

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Response to Sheldon Cooper (Reply #57)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:55 PM

58. My take is that Emancipation Proclamation and actual battle of gettysburg

are more important. But, reasonable minds can certainly differ on this.

Of course, my devilish side wishes Sherman's capture of Atlanta would be celebrated.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #58)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 02:57 PM

59. Heh.

The March to the Sea could be re-enacted every year!

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Response to Sheldon Cooper (Reply #59)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 03:00 PM

60. Great moments in business branding

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:33 PM

64. And if he'd chosen to go, imagine what the wingnut turnout would have been.

He might have chosen not to go because the "protests" would overshadow the actual commemoration.

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Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 04:34 PM

65. That's the beauty of not running for reelection.

 

You can skip things that you don't want to attend, no matter how many people that pretend to be pissed off about it.

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