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Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:23 AM

GOP Rep: 'We’re Going To Start This All Over Again'

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TOM KLUDT – OCTOBER 17, 2013, 7:20 AM EDT

As Congress looked to end the budget and debt crises – at least for now — a Republican congressman offered an ominous outlook on Wednesday.

Pledging to vote against the plan to re-open the government until Jan. 15 and raise the debt ceiling until at least Feb. 7, Rep. John C. Fleming (R-LA) indicated that he's already looking toward the next showdown.

“I’ll vote against it,” Fleming said, as quoted by the New York Times. “But that will get us into Round 2. See, we’re going to start this all over again.”

Fleming was one of 144 House members — all Republicans — who voted against the deal that passed both houses of Congress on Wednesday. On Tuesday, he told reporters that Republicans wanted to use the looming debt limit deadline as leverage.

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Reply GOP Rep: 'We’re Going To Start This All Over Again' (Original post)
DonViejo Oct 2013 OP
mac56 Oct 2013 #1
Laelth Oct 2013 #22
magical thyme Oct 2013 #26
AAO Oct 2013 #28
jeff47 Oct 2013 #33
Kber Oct 2013 #2
Heather MC Oct 2013 #3
CrispyQ Oct 2013 #27
Justice Oct 2013 #4
CBHagman Oct 2013 #5
another_liberal Oct 2013 #6
Laelth Oct 2013 #23
Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #7
truthisfreedom Oct 2013 #8
PADemD Oct 2013 #9
DCBob Oct 2013 #16
myrna minx Oct 2013 #17
Cha Oct 2013 #42
PADemD Oct 2013 #43
Cha Oct 2013 #44
Berlum Oct 2013 #10
Ilsa Oct 2013 #11
cosmicone Oct 2013 #12
eggplant Oct 2013 #24
hobbit709 Oct 2013 #13
tanyev Oct 2013 #14
BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #15
liberal N proud Oct 2013 #18
City Lights Oct 2013 #19
Bandit Oct 2013 #20
bushisanidiot Oct 2013 #21
CrispyQ Oct 2013 #25
AAO Oct 2013 #29
cynzke Oct 2013 #30
L0oniX Oct 2013 #31
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #32
olddad56 Oct 2013 #34
EC Oct 2013 #35
Shampoyeto Oct 2013 #36
NCagainstMcCrony Oct 2013 #37
Jamastiene Oct 2013 #38
Jody Lane Oct 2013 #39
tanyev Oct 2013 #40
rocktivity Oct 2013 #41

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:28 AM

1. Please proceed, Congressman.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:37 AM

22. Precisely. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:19 AM

26. ay-yup. by all means, do proceed.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:32 AM

28. My dog is smarter than that.

 

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Response to mac56 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:04 PM

33. +1

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:28 AM

2. Sigh

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:30 AM

3. Big Talk from a Small Dick!

This reminds me of my one and only fight I got into when I was in Middle School.

This girl grabbed both my arms and dugg her nails into me. I grabbed her by her elbows and spun her around and threw her across the Gym.

She bounced 3 times

She got up with tears in her eyes and proclaimed, "I'm gonna kick your ass now!"

I calmly stood there and responded, " I just threw you, you can't hurt me"


So to bring this around to the our Current situation. The Republican party just got tossed acrossed the room, bounced and now they are jumping up making bold statements with tears in their eyes to save face.

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:20 AM

27. She bounced 3 times



And yes, that how you deal with a bully & it's how a bully responds.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:31 AM

4. I don't think the rank and file republicans will allow themselves to be led to slaughter again.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:33 AM

5. Sounds like someone needs a few hundred thousand phone calls.

I feel sorry for his staff.

http://fleming.house.gov/

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:37 AM

6. To Representative Fleming:

Please, oh please do just that, you stupid, cracker bitch. We'd love to see you hillbillies make asses of yourselves again next year.

It will, of course, be an election year in which all House members must run for reelection, but don't let that stop you. Go ahead and vote to default on the nation's debt again, just like the big, bad Conservative horse's ass you clearly are.

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:38 AM

23. +1. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:39 AM

7. These guys are slow learners.....

 

What they should have learned from the most recent drama is that the Democratically-controlled Senate and the White House are not going to negotiate away the ACA or accept any other extreme measures, period.

So it will end the same way in 2014 as it ended now. His opportunity to make changes in the budget is to lobby the House representatives that will go to conference with the Senate.

The GOP can forget repealing the ACA. They have tried 40+ times at a cost of $55M while knowing the Senate would not take up the bill and the President would veto with no chance of a 2/3 majority override.

If they want to introduce changes to improve the ACA that is fair game but must know that some basic principles are not open for discussion. Those include the individual mandate, the mandatory minimum patient care requirement, the provisions related to annual or lifetime caps, pre-existing conditions and adult children coverage to age 26.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:46 AM

8. i love modern politics.

smells like victory.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 07:56 AM

9. There won't be another showdown

The deal to reopen government and extend the debt ceiling has been struck, and the Senate is about to vote. There will be two votes, the first on cloture and the second on passage of the deal itself. Here's some of what's in it:

An increase in the debt ceiling until Feb. 7, but it also continues the ability of the Treasury to use extraordinary measures to extend that period, so that's not a drop dead date. It also includes language allowing President Obama to waive the debt ceiling, which could be overridden by a vote of disapproval by Congress that could then be vetoed by the president;

http://www.dailykos.com/

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Response to PADemD (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:46 AM

16. wow. thats interesting about President Obama being able to waive the debt ceiling.

That's a big fking deal!

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Response to PADemD (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:58 AM

17. I didn't know about this clause. That's a remarkable development.

That should provide some stability and assurances to our creditors.

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Response to PADemD (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 04:35 AM

42. Am I being blind? I can't find the reference to this

post in the link you provided, PADemD?

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Response to Cha (Reply #42)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:23 AM

43. You need to find this article

Wed Oct 16, 2013 at 04:25 PM PDT
Senate votes on shutdown/debt ceiling deal
by Joan McCarter



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Response to PADemD (Reply #43)

Fri Oct 18, 2013, 05:35 AM

44. Thank you for replying, PADem..

I am really interested in that. And, there seems to be conflicting stories on this as is wont to happen.

Got it! Thanks!

An increase in the debt ceiling until Feb. 7, but it also continues the ability of the Treasury to use extraordinary measures to extend that period, so that's not a drop dead date. It also includes language allowing President Obama to waive the debt ceiling, which could be overridden by a vote of disapproval by Congress that could then be vetoed by the president;

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/16/1248042/-Senate-votes-on-shutdown-debt-ceiling-deal

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:01 AM

10. A Gross of Republicons = 144

I believe that nuMbeR - 144 - has bibLIcaL IMPlicatioNs.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:02 AM

11. I can only hope he's defeated in November. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:14 AM

12. I have a solution!

My former dog had a severe barking problem and he was driving me and the neighbors nuts. So, reluctantly and with great pain in my heart, I got him a shocking collar. Every time he barked, he would get a tiny jolt which automatically increased in severity if he barked again within a minute. After about 2 weeks, I didn't need the electric collar any more.

I feel like ordering 144 of them .... although my dog was smarter and a quick learner.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:57 AM

24. Maybe invisible fencing would keep them in Washington, too? n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:15 AM

13. TSTL

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:27 AM

14. See if ya'll can do another one closer to Nov. 2014, OK?

Thx.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:37 AM

15. Stuck on stupid

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 08:58 AM

18. What was that definition of insanity?

Something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?


Yeah, that's it!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:00 AM

19. What a dickhead.

Republicans suck. They think this is just a game they're playing. Gawd, I fucking HATE them!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:04 AM

20. The Democrats are having their ads write themselves.

Show public opinion polls and then him saying this, and then ask the question, do you really want someone out of touch with reality representing you?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 09:12 AM

21. Yes, please start this drama all over again, just in time for mid-terms.

So Speaker Pelosi can get her gavel back!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:00 AM

25. Do it assholes. The country is starting to see you for the hateful bullies you are. -nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:38 AM

29. Rest of GOP: "You got a mouse in your pocket, Johnny?"

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 10:43 AM

30. This is the time.....

I like to visit their FB page.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:02 AM

31. Rep. John C. Fleming (R-LA LA Land) Make my day ...punk!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 11:49 AM

32. NO to extortion. Block and veto any unclean CRs / debt ceilings. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:13 PM

34. they are going to lose again also, but what does he care, he is just doing what he was hired to do.

and that is to obstruct.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:50 PM

35. Is this guy missing a brain?

They were out-voted, I can't see Boehner going back to the Hastert rule anymore, therefore giving the tea people no clout. I heard that the next round will be pretty much after the primaries for 2014, so there will be no threat to the more normal repubs. So I don't think the tea people have anything to hold sway...they're losers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 12:50 PM

36. and the people will reject their tactics again

 

As it happened now. Bring it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:00 PM

37. Ali

 

Guess this clown is not familiar with the "Rope a dope"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 02:26 PM

38. They sure don't learn from their mistakes very well, do they? n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 04:57 PM

39. Good! Keep these antics in the news for the next year and the Dems will take the 2014 elections!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:32 PM

40. GOP: The shutdown was Obama's fault, not ours, and we're totally going to do it again!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 05:44 PM

41. Saved this from the Hillary-Obama race

because I knew it might come in handy someday:




rocktivity

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