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bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:23 PM Oct 2013

Dershowitz throws the Constitution, figuratively, at Ted Cruz

Source: Yahoo News

But when it came to the shutdown and debt-ceiling fight, Dershowitz made his case.

“I think it raises very serious constitutional questions of the kind that Ted Cruz should be interested in. Could you imagine Hamilton and Madison sitting around and drafting the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. They’re talking about how the government has to pay its debts, how it has to secure the credit of the United States, how the House of Representatives to originate bills on revenue. Nobody in a million years would have contemplated the power of Congress to shut down the government, to create doubts about our creditworthiness,” he said.

“I think you can make a very strong argument that what Ted Cruz is doing is deeply unconstitutional. Whether a court would accept that or say it’s a political question is another issue, but Cruz is a principled man. He ought to look at the Constitution and look into his heart and ask himself, ‘What would Alexander Hamilton have done,’” Dershowitz said.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/dershowitz-throws-constitution-figuratively-ted-cruz-141406725--politics.html



More to hang around Cruz's neck during the next election.
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Dershowitz throws the Constitution, figuratively, at Ted Cruz (Original Post) bluesbassman Oct 2013 OP
His premise is all wrong. ted cruz is NOT a principled man. calimary Oct 2013 #1
+1,000 freshwest Oct 2013 #11
...plus an unhealthy dose of Jesse Helms lastlib Oct 2013 #15
There is a reason Dershowitz said "reasonable" Scairp Oct 2013 #18
Ted Cruz is a dominionist daybranch Oct 2013 #22
But what's bullshit is how Douchewitz premised his comments with how principled a man The Stranger Oct 2013 #2
People change, and one can be principled and still be wrong. bluesbassman Oct 2013 #4
Unfortunately, Cruz is not up for re-election until 2018. DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #3
Yes, the Texas asshole will be in the news for a long time. jsr Oct 2013 #8
I'll be waiting....... lastlib Oct 2013 #16
"He ought to look at the Constitution and look into his heart ..." Javaman Oct 2013 #5
unfortunately he also said cruz had principle samsingh Oct 2013 #6
Neither of these self-interested celebrity pols are qualified to talk about principles. leveymg Oct 2013 #7
Cruz daddy weissmam Oct 2013 #9
For saying that demagogue 'Cruz is a principled man' you can STFU now, Dershowitz. freshwest Oct 2013 #10
lol @ 'What would Alexander Hamilton have done' Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #12
I think Cruz should emulate Hamilton. yorgatron Oct 2013 #13
I think we can find 99 volunteers in the Senate and over 400 in the lower chamber. Michelle Bachman okaawhatever Oct 2013 #17
Principled? Moral Compass Oct 2013 #14
We now have an explanation as to Cruz & Mike Lee's whereabouts during the lunch absence. Cruz having okaawhatever Oct 2013 #19
LOL. DUzy! bluesbassman Oct 2013 #20
"....But Cruz is a principled man...." Only in the sense that so were Jesse James and Al Capone. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #21

calimary

(81,220 posts)
1. His premise is all wrong. ted cruz is NOT a principled man.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:25 PM
Oct 2013

ted cruz is ego on steroids, with a whole bunch of Macchiavelli thrown in.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
18. There is a reason Dershowitz said "reasonable"
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:34 PM
Oct 2013

It's the Harvard connection and he's giving an alumni the benefit of the doubt. Although how someone with Cruz's education could be so dumb is still a mystery to me. I think the prof is being too kind in this situation.

The Stranger

(11,297 posts)
2. But what's bullshit is how Douchewitz premised his comments with how principled a man
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:27 PM
Oct 2013

and how great a student Ted Cruz was.

Douchewitz is insulting himself and Harvard Law School.

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
4. People change, and one can be principled and still be wrong.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

Elizabeth Warren comes to mind. Fortunately for us she was a principled person with wrong ideas that changed for the better.

Javaman

(62,517 posts)
5. "He ought to look at the Constitution and look into his heart ..."
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:37 PM
Oct 2013

in order to "look into ones heart" one must first have a heart.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
6. unfortunately he also said cruz had principle
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:38 PM
Oct 2013

which is clearly incorrect given cruz's lies. just to say he cares about people and then shut down the govnt shows he does not.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. Neither of these self-interested celebrity pols are qualified to talk about principles.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:40 PM
Oct 2013

I don't know which is worse, the celebrity politician or the politician celeb.

weissmam

(905 posts)
9. Cruz daddy
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:57 PM
Oct 2013

remember acoding to hsi wing nut dad Cruz in the anointed one, with a heda the size of a foot ball stadium. he still probabaly thinks he can do no wrong

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
17. I think we can find 99 volunteers in the Senate and over 400 in the lower chamber. Michelle Bachman
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:32 PM
Oct 2013

won't fight a duel, but we tricked her and told her it was a NRA fund-raising event.

Moral Compass

(1,517 posts)
14. Principled?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 01:36 PM
Oct 2013

..."but Cruz is a principled man."?

Cruz is a principled man? No, he's not. He's a sociopath who doesn't care about you, the Republican party, the nation, the Constitution, or anything other than Ted Cruz!

Dear god, does no one even understand the basic meaning of words any longer?

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
19. We now have an explanation as to Cruz & Mike Lee's whereabouts during the lunch absence. Cruz having
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 02:41 PM
Oct 2013

been challenged to "look into his heart" by Dershowitz, was confused as to the instructions. He called on his friend Mike Lee to explain what the "heart thing" was. Lee, familiar with the term but uncertain of it's exact location, was unable to expedite the process. After two hours of searching they concluded it was a joke being pulled on Sen Cruz by Professor Dershowitz akin to a snipe hunt. Cruz was overheard saying to Lee, "that Dershowitz, he's getting up in years. He also used to tell me I looked like McCarthy. Silly man, It's McCartney and I don't look anything like a Beatle".

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
21. "....But Cruz is a principled man...." Only in the sense that so were Jesse James and Al Capone.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 03:09 PM
Oct 2013

I guess it depends on whose principles one is talking about.

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