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Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:21 PM

Dennis Ross, GOP Rep: 'Pride' Is Why Republicans Won't Budge On Government Shutdown

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- With the government shutdown in its fifth day, many Republicans have conceded the fight is no longer about Obamacare. Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.) added his name to the list on Saturday, saying the matter now boils down to "pride."

“Republicans have to realize how many significant gains we’ve made over the last three years, and we have, not only in cutting spending but in really turning the tide on other things," Ross told The New York Times. "We can’t lose all that when there’s no connection now between the shutdown and the funding of Obamacare."

"I think now it’s a lot about pride," he added.

The fight over keeping the government open began with Republicans insisting that any funding bill include anti-Obamacare provisions, starting with a full-fledged campaign led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) to defund the health care law. When that plan was rejected by the Senate, House Republicans offered a series of spending bills that continued to chip away at Obamacare; their final offer included a one-year delay of the law's individual mandate and a ban on federal health care subsidies to members of Congress and their staffs.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/dennis-ross-government-shutdown_n_4050231.html



Republicans repeatedly, repeatedly admit on the record that they shutdown the government in order to "get respect" or in this case, "pride," which brings to mind Gingrich being ticked about where he sat on Air Force One. Yet, the media bends over backwards to portray this in false equivalency terms even though Republicans are contradictory about what it is they want from a negotiation with the President. Now, Boehner just says he wants to sit at the negotiating table with the President. What for? A photo op.

I wish we were making this up, but Republicans are their own worst advocates. If only the media would just call this for the farce that it is.

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Reply Dennis Ross, GOP Rep: 'Pride' Is Why Republicans Won't Budge On Government Shutdown (Original post)
TomCADem Oct 2013 OP
Siwsan Oct 2013 #1
Liberal Veteran Oct 2013 #5
Paulie Oct 2013 #10
Cirque du So-What Oct 2013 #2
The Magistrate Oct 2013 #3
grantcart Oct 2013 #15
Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #4
malletgirl02 Oct 2013 #6
Kablooie Oct 2013 #7
Happyhippychick Oct 2013 #8
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #9
Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #11
alp227 Oct 2013 #16
Cha Oct 2013 #12
kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #13
Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #14
Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #22
adieu Oct 2013 #17
Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #18
The Wizard Oct 2013 #19
PSPS Oct 2013 #20
BarbaRosa Oct 2013 #21
jmowreader Oct 2013 #23
Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #24

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:25 PM

1. Well, good, because you know the old saying 'Pride goeth before the fall'

And, I also recall the pride is one of the 7 Deadly Sins.

They just seem to be a little too transparent, for their own good.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:38 PM

5. Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.

I can live with the former, but will accept the latter for the republicants.

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Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:27 PM

10. Amen

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:26 PM

2. Pride?

Pride in being a misanthropic idiot? As Denis Leary said at the end of his little ditty, 'I'm an asshole and proud of it!'

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:29 PM

3. These People, Sir, Sound More And More Like A Gang Of Street-Corner Hoodlums

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:16 PM

15. or Walter White

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:31 PM

4. Respect from who, they already have their base tied up, respect from those furlowed from their

Jobs and will not get a paycheck, would not get respect from me. Now if Boehner had taken a stand against Cruz and his stupid tactic he would have gained some respect from me, not on his policy but he could have appeared stronger in his Speaker position.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:47 PM

6. Republicans

Republicans need to learn that to get respect they need to earn it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:55 PM

7. Hubris is more like it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:09 PM

8. When you don't have rationality what else is left?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:23 PM

9. Ticked

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 08:28 PM

11. Bloomberg: Rep. Ross says EXACTLY what he wants: a DEAL with cuts to SS,MC . . . :


He admits that the Republican obstructionism on the ACA was NOT really about the ACA, but was done to "maintain credibility with their base" because they had "run on repealing Obamacare".

Ross is NOT one of the (non-existent) so-called Republican "moderates", but is a Tea Party favorite who has one of the "most conservative" records from the Club for Growth and the American Conservative Union.

The Bloomberg article on Ross clearly shows what the purpose of this entire shutdown drama is. And it is NOT about "Obamacare". It is Shock Doctrine Disacter Capitalism at its worst. It is about setting up a phony crisis in order to make a "compromise" slashing SS, MC, and other social safety net programs.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023789721










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Response to Faryn Balyncd (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:16 PM

16. He can kiss goodbye a whole bunch of campaign contributions then! nt

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:19 PM

12. Hey, I don't know much about the Bible.. but, doesn't it say in there

that "Pride goeth before a FALL"?

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:09 PM

13. They should read Proverbs 16:18 of their Holy Bible.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:14 PM

14. Proverbs 16:18

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #14)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 01:30 AM

22. And the Republicans damn sure have a haughy spirit as frosting to cover their pride cake n/t

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:19 PM

17. The Republicans

Have no pride, cannot be given pride, do not deserve any pride, should not be allowed to be close to where pride can be obtained, must have whatever current amount of pride that they have be ground into dust, must have whatever actions in the future that they do which could have a shred of pride be destroyed and buried, and be permanently from now until the end of days be mocked and denigrated for having no pride and none shall ever be bestowed on that sorry lot. Fuck them and everyone who support them with a rusty railroad spike. There.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:22 PM

18. I think Dennis Ross meant their owner's pride

GOP politicians do not do anything unless their their owners tell them to do it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:59 PM

19. Pride breeds the tyrant

at least according to Homer in The Iliad.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:57 PM

20. I think he really wanted to say, "white pride."

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 01:12 AM

21. Dumber than a mud fence,

and proud of it .

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 03:39 AM

23. Fine. I got yer pride right here.

Put all the fuckin' Republicans in the House gym with a pride of lions borrowed from the National Zoo, and solve this shit in a way that can't come back.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #23)

Sun Oct 6, 2013, 01:09 PM

24. +1

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