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Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:52 AM

President Obama to Republicans: 'I will not negotiate'

Source: The Hill

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Despite Republican attempts to defund his signature healthcare reform law, the president promised that the next phase of the law will kick in on October 1 “no matter what.”

“I will work with anyone who wants to have a serious conversation about our economic future,” Obama said. “But I will not negotiate over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills it has already racked up. I don’t know how to be more clear about this: no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the United States of America just to extract ideological concessions.”

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“This Tuesday is an important day for families, businesses, and our economy,” Obama said. “It’s the day a big part of the Affordable Care Act kicks in and tens of millions of Americans will finally have the same chance to buy quality, affordable health care as everyone else.

“It’s also the day that a group of far-right Republicans in Congress might choose to shut down the government and potentially damage the economy just because they don’t like this law.”




Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/325283-obama-to-republicans-i-will-not-negotiate



Weekly Address: Averting a Government Shutdown and Expanding Access to Affordable Healthcare




Weekly Address: Averting a Government Shutdown and Expanding Access to Affordable Healthcare
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/09/28/weekly-address-averting-government-shutdown-and-expanding-access-afforda
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If Congress doesn’t pass a budget by Monday – the end of the fiscal year – the government shuts down, along with many vital services the American people depend on. On Friday, the Senate passed a bill to keep the government open. But Republicans in the House have been more concerned with appeasing an extreme faction of their party than working to pass a budget that creates new jobs or strengthens the middle class. And in the next couple days, these Republicans will have to decide whether to join the Senate and keep the government open, or create a crisis that will hurt people for the sole purpose of advancing their ideological agenda.

Past government shutdowns have disrupted the economy. This shutdown would, too. At a moment when our economy has steadily gained traction, and our deficits have been falling faster than at any time in 60 years, a shutdown would be a purely self-inflicted wound. And that’s why many Republican Senators and Republican governors have urged Republicans in the House of Representatives to knock it off, pass a budget, and move on.

This brings me to the second responsibility Congress has. Once they vote to keep the government open, they must also vote within the next couple weeks to allow the Treasury to pay the bills for the money that Congress has already spent. Failure to meet this responsibility would be far more dangerous than a government shutdown – it would be an economic shutdown, with impacts not just here, but around the world.

Unfortunately some Republicans have suggested that unless I agree to an even longer list of demands – not just gutting the health care law, but things like cutting taxes for millionaires or rolling back rules on big banks and polluters– they’ll push the button, throwing America into default for the first time in history and risk throwing us back into recession.

I will work with anyone who wants to have a serious conservation about our economic future. But I will not negotiate over Congress’ responsibility to pay the bills it has already racked up. I don’t know how to be more clear about this: no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the United States of America just to extract ideological concessions. No one gets to hurt our economy and millions of innocent people just because there are a couple laws you don’t like. It hasn’t been done in the past, and we’re not going to start doing it now.

The American people have worked too hard to recover from crisis to see extremists in their Congress cause another one. And every day this goes on is another day that we can’t continue the work of rebuilding the great American middle class. Congress needs to pass a budget in time, pay its bills on time, and refocus on the everyday concerns of the people who sent them there.



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Reply President Obama to Republicans: 'I will not negotiate' (Original post)
cal04 Sep 2013 OP
DCBob Sep 2013 #1
jakeXT Sep 2013 #5
watoos Sep 2013 #6
Gore1FL Sep 2013 #7
underthematrix Sep 2013 #8
kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #30
RiverNoord Sep 2013 #11
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2013 #15
phleshdef Sep 2013 #28
Heather MC Sep 2013 #20
yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #22
blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #34
yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #35
tblue Sep 2013 #2
Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #3
meow2u3 Sep 2013 #9
Moostache Sep 2013 #17
Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #19
kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #31
Sunlei Sep 2013 #4
RiverNoord Sep 2013 #10
Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #12
Politicub Sep 2013 #13
Left Coast2020 Sep 2013 #14
mysuzuki2 Sep 2013 #16
truebluegreen Sep 2013 #37
Kingofalldems Sep 2013 #18
grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #21
Celefin Sep 2013 #23
mwooldri Sep 2013 #24
Scootaloo Sep 2013 #27
cstanleytech Sep 2013 #25
JEFF9K Sep 2013 #26
Cha Sep 2013 #29
Ash_F Sep 2013 #32
blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #33
Hekate Sep 2013 #39
Pterodactyl Sep 2013 #36
truebluegreen Sep 2013 #38
Hekate Sep 2013 #40
Pterodactyl Sep 2013 #41
Hekate Sep 2013 #42

Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:24 AM

1. This is the killer line..

"no one gets to threaten the full faith and credit of the United States of America just to extract ideological concessions."

That's about as clear and concise as it can be.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:52 AM

5. Still no 14th amendment

“The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payments of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.”

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3991148

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:00 AM

6. I totally agree with you about using the 14th Amendment,

maybe the problem with that would be that the Repugs would try to impeach Pres Obama if he used it. Even if Obama would be justified in using the 14th would he end up spending his time fighting impeachment? I don't really know, just asking because it does otherwise seem like a simple solution.

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:11 AM

7. It would be seen for what it was.

I doubt they'd even get the vote for impeachment in the House.

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:29 AM

8. i think we all need to just tweet "14"

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Response to watoos (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 07:37 PM

30. They can go ahead an impeach him. He'll just laugh and carry on.

I think he has decided that this is his moment to stand firm. I support him in that 100%.

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:42 AM

11. 'The full faith and credit' is code for using it.

I suspect the the President's legal team has been working very, very hard in preparation for its application, and I hope he has the courage to go for it if necessary. Which is almost certain.

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Response to RiverNoord (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:19 AM

15. I agree. he absolutely knows what he means.

I loved that line too.

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 06:45 PM

28. I'm pretty sure the last time this came up, the White House talked to their lawyers about that...

...and they advised against it.

However, considering theres no re-election to worry about, Obama might go there as a last ditch effort, its not like Biden is gonna suffer their bullshit if they hypothetically were even able to impeach the President, and I doubt the Senate would let it slide.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:05 PM

20. Wow it's really sad when a sitting President has to speak to Congressmen and Senators as if they are

terrorist. But that is where we are at. And we DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORIST!

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #20)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 01:29 PM

22. Its true the Republicans want to hold the US government

Hostage with their blackmail scheme. They should be treated as criminals.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:49 PM

34. They SHOULD, but that might interfere w/their martini brunches/weekends on the golf course together.

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #34)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:53 PM

35. I was partly wrong...its not Blackmail...

Its Extortion.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:29 AM

2. Good!

They act like children in the Terrible 2s. They don't deserve anyone's respect or attention. Only thing is, they will not give up. They always have something else up their sleeve. Stay strong, Mr. President!

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:42 AM

3. They are terrorists. Treat them as such. Gitmo is still open.

Declare an Economic Emergency under the Patriot Act. Then declare them enemy combatants.

We can have a set of new elections once they are sitting in cages.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:39 AM

9. Even better, declare them insurrectionists.

That way, they'll be ineligible to run for office.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:28 AM

17. Extraordinary rendition candidates....all of them.

I will volunteer to water board them all too.

By the time I get done with these weapons of mass ignorance, they will wish to their gawd that they had never allowed the Patriot Act tp become law in the first place...my actions will be so draconian that it will shock the nation into a full repeal of the excremental laws that would make it legal in the first place.

I am willing to take that bullet for the benefit of us all (and because I have a side bet that Ted Cru wouldn't last 5 seconds on a water board before declaring the ACA as the best piece of legislation in the history fo the republic....

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #9)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:51 AM

19. nice idea!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 07:39 PM

31. Excellent idea.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 09:45 AM

4. every year, the same crap from Congress! I do not understand why some people even vote for them!

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:40 AM

10. Finally!

Obama's legal team must have been working very hard to give him the cover he needed. The Constitutional trigger should have been used last time we went 'round this bend. I hope he has the courage to make it happen.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:43 AM

12. Well, at least we understand what at all Monica Lewinsky crap was all about during the Clinton years

Republicans want someone they can blackmail and own. Looks like Obama is too good for them. Literally.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:12 AM

13. We need to rally around the president to resist GOP obstructionism

Even if you disagree with the president on some things, this is an issue that we should all be able to rally around.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:14 AM

14. Obama to republicans:

"Go Cheney yourself".

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:20 AM

16. Unfortunately, the tea baggers don't believe him.

I heard some asshat on NPR yesterday (didn't hear his name) say that Obama negotiated last time this came up so he will probably negotiate this time too. The problem is, they see compromise as weakness. Once you give in to them, they will expect it every time. If President gives in this time, his presidency is completely down the drain. They will have won.

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Response to mysuzuki2 (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 01:42 AM

37. Can't really blame them for thinking that.

He has negotiated with the terrorists across the aisle from the git go, even after seeing it went nowhere.

It's really going to be ugly now, with the budget and then in a few weeks the debt ceiling. Here's hoping he will stand up to them.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:35 AM

18. Kick and Rec for all the filthy teabaggers out there.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 12:15 PM

21. Good.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 04:31 PM

23. Finally the real deal. Really Presidential.

Do not negotiate with terrorists - they don't deserve any other name by now.

Obama tells it like it is. Beautiful.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 04:39 PM

24. What's the difference between John Boehner and Hassan Rouhani?

You can negotiate with Hassan Rouhani...

(sadly, I wish it were a joke).

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 06:14 PM

27. Well, that and Rouhani was never employed by Willy Wonka.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 06:06 PM

25. Ya know it seems more and more like the GOP is behaving like a terrorist organization

with their approach of "give us what we want or we start killing the hostages".

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 06:09 PM

26. NEVER AGAIN should we allow Fox News Channel to elect our Congress!!

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 07:10 PM

29. Mahalo cal

Ben White ✔ @morningmoneyben

I love the idea that raising debt ceiling would be "caving" to Obama. Like saying paying for stuff you bought is "caving" to the cashier.3:22 AM - 28 Sep 2013 from Englewood, NJ, United States

282 Retweets 70 favorites Reply

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/09/28/rise-and-shine-625/

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 08:48 PM

32. "...with terrorists" he added

In my dreams.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 10:46 PM

33. Of course he won't "negotiate." He'll just quietly FOLD. And get NOTHING for it in the process.

Just like usual.

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #33)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:51 AM

39. You're wrong

Just like usual

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:17 PM

36. Obama SHOULD negotiate. He's an AWESOME negotiator and he'd come out way ahead.

Case in point: Syria.

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Response to Pterodactyl (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 01:44 AM

38. Yes, that was eleventy dimension chess.



I'll take it anyway. I'm just not blind to how we got there.

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Response to Pterodactyl (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:54 AM

40. I have a feeling that the current situation with the ACA is a red line much like chemical weapons

The GOP seem to delight in the prospect of death as much as Assad. When the President says he's not going to negotiate with the GOP any more, they should watch out.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #40)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 03:22 PM

41. Yeah, maybe Putin could help out.

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Response to Pterodactyl (Reply #41)

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 05:39 PM

42. Obama (and Kerry) handed Putin a hot potato and made him responsible. Frankly that was awesome.

Syria is Russia's client nation -- and now Russia is responsible for cleaning up the chemical weapons they have had to admit that Syria actually has.

What's needed in the US is for the US Congress to do its actual job, and it looks an awful lot like Boehner is finding himself between a rock and a hard place -- the rock being "I will not negotiate" Obama and the hard place being the Tea Party. The losers in this contest are going to be the Congressional GOP/Tea Party, and Putin can mind his own business.

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