Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:09 AM

SunSeeker (5,046 posts)

Tasered woman now brain dead

A woman shot with a Taser by a trooper in Florida, falls into a coma, now brain dead. Jane Velez-Mitchell speaks with her parents.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#/video/bestoftv/2012/02/21/exp-jvm-taser-coma.hln

Local news story with (disturbing) video of tasing:

A young woman was left with severe brain damage and in a vegetative state after being tasered by a police officer. The officer's dash cam shows 20-year-old Danielle Maudsley handcuffed, as she ran away from the Florida Highway Patrol officer. She was only feet away when she is tasered in the back. The victim collapsed and her head slammed to the ground.

http://www.wcti12.com/news/30482005/detail.html

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366 replies	Author	Time	Post
Tasered woman now brain dead (Original post)	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	OP
I hope that officer is charged with murder.	CaliforniaPeggy	Feb 2012	#1
the news article said that the officer's use of force was justified.	Joe Shlabotnik	Feb 2012	#4
Whoops. Never mind.	Orrex	Feb 2012	#16
Son of a bitch could have caught up to her if he was in physical shape.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#62
...and then what?	boppers	Feb 2012	#198
nope.	jschurchin	Feb 2012	#210
It's the head bang...	zentrum	Feb 2012	#215
Tasing in theory, is less violent than a physical tackle.	jschurchin	Feb 2012	#245
So untrue.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#268
She was already cuffed.	caseymoz	Feb 2012	#287
She was handcuffed already. eom.	boppers	Feb 2012	#219
She was cuffed.	1monster	Feb 2012	#221
Judgemental name calling	cbrer	Feb 2012	#293
However did police manage to catch young women pre-Tasers?	WinkyDink	Feb 2012	#251
Magical sparkling nets of happiness, I think?	boppers	Feb 2012	#301
Really?	Ash_F	Feb 2012	#342
Multiple arrested felon, fleeing during transport to jail.	boppers	Feb 2012	#347
A 20 year old woman, handcuffed, was too much for this big tough guy?	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#298
Who said he was scared?	boppers	Feb 2012	#300
Why else would a big, tough guy like that feel the need to resort to nearly fatally injuring	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#302
She broke out of arm-grabbing range.	boppers	Feb 2012	#303
She was a danger to the public?	NeoConsSuck	Feb 2012	#331
If she ran in front of your car while you're cruising at 60 mph, and you swerved to miss her	NickB79	Feb 2012	#346
I agree that the cop tased her because he was in no shape to chase her	rocktivity	Feb 2012	#231
In a sane world, traffic offenses are not considered capital crimes n/t	MrModerate	Feb 2012	#292
In that "sane" world, do car accidents not kill people?	boppers	Feb 2012	#304
So those thought to be at fault in an auto accident should be hanged from the nearest lamppost?	MrModerate	Feb 2012	#341
Or questioned. Until they're found to be driving without a license.	boppers	Feb 2012	#348
I think the guilt-o-meter on this one is all over the dial . . .	MrModerate	Feb 2012	#351
OK, so a 20 year old made a mistake & ran,.. handcuffed,...	red dog 1	Feb 2012	#294
This message was hidden by jury decision.	PizzonLibtards	Feb 2012	#229
As a parent, I kept thinking that could have been my kid.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#5
So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman. Yeah, that's not a recipe for injury.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#52
A broken leg would have been a better scenario.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#64
No, Bad judgment on the girl's part	thedude333	Feb 2012	#74
so she deserved to die	SemperEadem	Feb 2012	#79
I feel your pain.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#84
This message was hidden by jury decision.	frylock	Feb 2012	#93
No, this is not the kind of response one would expect on DU...	rexcat	Feb 2012	#116
We don't call posters on DU dehumanizing names like that.	MineralMan	Feb 2012	#119
It's the strict	xxqqqzme	Feb 2012	#132
fucking ridiculous - yes she DESERVED to be met with force - She tried to escape a jail	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#194
No, killing this woman is disgusting.	Boudica the Lyoness	Feb 2012	#288
she didn't deserve ***TO DIE***	SemperEadem	Feb 2012	#321
I couldn't agree less with the false argument - comparing perfectly legal examples of stereotypical	24601	Feb 2012	#269
no it doesn't	SemperEadem	Feb 2012	#322
Your saying it doesn't make it so. Given your statements - it likely makes it less so.	24601	Feb 2012	#337
In the same way that a woman who doesn't wear underwear deserves to be raped?	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#82
You're kidding, right?	crim son	Feb 2012	#113
There's a whole Supreme Court standard for it.	boppers	Feb 2012	#213
Right, it involves involves using good judgment under the circumstances, which this cop didn't do.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#259
You show much compasion for your fellow humans...	rexcat	Feb 2012	#117
Welcome to DU. One thing, if you want to look like a Democrat you must show	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#152
Your immorality will fall back on you.	tabasco	Feb 2012	#227
No, she didn't. To get the death penalty, you have to be charged with murder, then you are	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#299
So when a 267 lb man tackles a 100 lb woman	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#129
he didn't even have to tackle her	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#149
With what?	boppers	Feb 2012	#226
um...he could have run after her	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#241
You do realize that cops chase and apprehend people all the time, right?	Hugabear	Feb 2012	#295
I can't get the link to work so I've got a question regarding	madmom	Feb 2012	#96
She had just been booked and was trying to escape	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#131
DRUGS IN HER SYSTEM, OMG. Well death is justified then. nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#160
Wow.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#175
Someone's sarcasmometer needs tuning ... nt	eppur_se_muova	Feb 2012	#265
I understood the sarcasm just fine	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#266
"Talk about a stupid post." Is that all you have. We are done. nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#310
Nope, that is not all I had	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#313
oh, well there it is.. total justification for forfeiting her life	SemperEadem	Feb 2012	#170
Ooops, your slip is showing. To suggest that someone here suggested that	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#140
He could have just shot her in the ankle. She may have been hamstrung, but she'd be alive. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#145
No one suggested he should tackle her?	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#185
I believe those were all after your post, "So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman."	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#308
"Interesting how some "Democrats""	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#315
"She is a criminal"? Oh really. So you've tried and convicted her and think she therefore	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#328
Yes, she is a criminal	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#336
No, he should have just grabbed her by her handcuffed arms--no injury.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#166
She was handcuffed in front. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#167
So? He could have grabbed either arm, or both, from behind.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#169
You ever try to restrain someone who is trying run purposefully into a busy road?	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#174
Yes, I do it all the time with my 8-year-old.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#181
How often is he irrational and hyped-up	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#186
Your 8 year does coke and oxy.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#187
People do irrational things, whether on drugs or not.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#196
They are able to handle it.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#209
Tasers and pepper spray are for self defense, not to extract "cooperation."	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#220
Um, no	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#225
So it was OK for that campus cop to pepper spray all those UC Davis students?	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#260
It depends on the specific case.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#264
Stop going on about drugs.	Boudica the Lyoness	Feb 2012	#290
Yes I do.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#317
Less about irrationality more about sensory perception and pain tolerance. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#286
Did you see the video?	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#171
Yes, I did. The cop didn't even try.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#177
I disagree	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#192
No, you agree.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#199
I do like to disagree.	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#207
LOL. n/t	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#214
It's all about controlling people isn't it?	Boudica the Lyoness	Feb 2012	#289
This "poor girl"	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#318
no	jschurchin	Feb 2012	#212
And then get on message boards and commit	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#217
Wow, I cannot believe your	Carolina	Feb 2012	#273
She didn't deserve it	Kellerfeller	Feb 2012	#274
Exactly. It would have been a simple matter for the officer to just throw his baton at her legs or	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#56
Actually, it looked to me as if the spinning around and hitting the ground	Ms. Toad	Feb 2012	#61
Sometimes it's not worth using the sarcasm tag.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#63
Well...	Ms. Toad	Feb 2012	#89
LOL, 360 degrees would put her back on her face. nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#159
He wont be because they already found that he used it	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#8
Then the police department should be sued.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#65
The parents can certainly try but considering it was done only after	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#137
AND the people who gave him that taser, AND the people who sold that taser.	DCKit	Feb 2012	#10
I live near this	classykaren	Feb 2012	#13
This message was hidden by jury decision.	PizzonLibtards	Feb 2012	#230
Me too	secondvariety	Feb 2012	#234
Why?	thedude333	Feb 2012	#78
Why? It's still a use of excessive force. Obviously.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#138
Appalling.	BlueIris	Feb 2012	#2
Perhaps I misread it but wasnt its the hitting her head on the pavement and not the taser	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#9
Maybe the cop would have been better to just chase after her and grab her then?	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#11
OH I agree he probably would have been better to chase her but I am talking about the claim	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#12
Well if you are tasered and fall to the ground and hit your head	malaise	Feb 2012	#14
Well for one a bullet hole in the back of the head probably	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#17
Some would prefer simply to see police punished for excessive use of force	Scootaloo	Feb 2012	#22
And I agree if excessive force is used it should be punished but thats not	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#27
A taser can kill you no matter where you are hit.	Occulus	Feb 2012	#124
So are you arguing then that guns with bullets are a better alternative?	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#134
Guns were used far less than tasers are today	Scootaloo	Feb 2012	#168
There is a huge difference between tasering a child and	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#176
No one here is "arguing then that guns with bullets are a better alternative."	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#309
"More and more people are being killed by police for not obeying"	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#312
Hey it's my opinion. nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#327
He had 3 options right at that minute	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#319
How far do you expect her to run? He could have walked after and brought her back. Her escape wasnt	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#326
How far? Far enough to kill herself.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#330
No,there was a #4	NeoConsSuck	Feb 2012	#332
You are trying to use common sense against rationalizations.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#333
Why tackle her as an option other than grabbing her? Because of the risk of her resisting even more	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#334
Brain dead or bullet in the back	malaise	Feb 2012	#30
Depends where the bullet hits and how much damage it does.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#34
A bullet to the head would have been merciful.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#68
The cocaine and oxy probably helped. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#76
That explains why she exercised poor judgment.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#81
I already agreed that any good cop would have been able to wing her with a bullet so	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#85
Here is where you're misguided:	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#95
Close doesnt = the act is accomplished. If it did I would have won the powerball jackpot already.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#135
He could have simply fired a bullet into the AIR	Carolina	Feb 2012	#276
I would be a little worried about where the bullet would land. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#280
If he had chased her and tackled her, it might have ended the same way.	tclambert	Feb 2012	#20
Well in that case then	lunatica	Feb 2012	#45
If he had tackled her, she would have had a chance to buffer the fall with her cuffed hands.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#69
If she died that way, the response would have been "why didn't he use his taser, isn't that what	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#77
Nobody would support a taser over a conventional tackling.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#80
LOL. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#87
Brilliant retort.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#92
He is right though, the headline would probably have been	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#202
What's more likely is that the cop didn't want to hit pavement.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#272
Or just cracked his nightstick across the back of her legs. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#285
Try reversing it though. What if it had been a 90 pound female police officer vs	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#305
No need to.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#316
Well the main thing isnt size the main one is	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#320
It still doesn't justify the police's actions.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#323
Hey you will get no argument from me that they need to secure them better.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#325
Nobody would support a tackling over use of a taser.	boppers	Feb 2012	#208
He probably could have walked following her for about a 100 feet and she would have stopped.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#164
And she could have decided not to try and escape.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#179
She was being punished for daring to try to escape. Police dont like it when you	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#307
2 hit and runs that day, driving while intoxicated, multiple previous convictions.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#311
Bullet or taser? And those were the only two alternatives? Right? Cop should	truth2power	Feb 2012	#15
Right. When you tase a running person	Jackpine Radical	Feb 2012	#40
Actually yes, its her fault	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#46
She was 0% at fault for the use of EXCESSIVE force.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#139
What was the proper amount of force? nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#142
Obviously something less than shooting her in the back with a Taser.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#144
I think a shot to the ankle or through the shoulder blade would have sufficed.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#146
You might qualify to be hired as a cop. Of course, he could have pretended that she was a donut and	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#151
Given they were running out into a busy road, maybe we'd have one more dead cop and if lucky one	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#155
It's unlikely that the tasing of this girl improved traffic flow.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#162
Wonder it it would have been better if they were both cut down by a passing car.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#163
As opposed to say shooting her in the back with the gun? I mean come on	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#178
Excessive force is excessive force whether it is used on an innocent bystander or a felon.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#222
Actually, shooting her with a gun would seem to be more than shooting her with a taser.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#228
Her hand were not cuffed behind her	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#49
That was the only bad police procedure I saw in the video.	tclambert	Feb 2012	#224
I agree	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#232
He could have	secondvariety	Feb 2012	#237
Yes but would the republicans in congress really agree to have her handcuffed to them?	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#267
You lose muscle control when you're tased.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#66
did you see her body's reaction to	Carolina	Feb 2012	#275
No, the real cause was her trying to escape after being arrested.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#306
Agreed, appalling.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Feb 2012	#279
Yay, Cops!	Iggo	Feb 2012	#3
This is sad.	Tripod	Feb 2012	#6
"Taser is a good weapon."	Leftist Agitator	Feb 2012	#28
Yes it is, I want one.	Tripod	Feb 2012	#340
There really needs to be a re-education and/or re-evaluation of the type of people chosen as police.	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#7
Sounds more like they chose those with personality disorders.	dipsydoodle	Feb 2012	#18
Well, we know they weed out the ones who are too bright.	Jackpine Radical	Feb 2012	#41
A responsible police force tries to weed out the bullies and the trigger-happy from their recruits,	tclambert	Feb 2012	#19
"Responsible police department"?	Scootaloo	Feb 2012	#23
You know you're exaggerating.	tclambert	Feb 2012	#26
hmm...	kenfrequed	Feb 2012	#50
Sounds like the parents of the woman could have used parenting classes.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#53
Well, I guess the punishment fit the crime, then. nt	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#58
Bad behavior all around	qanda	Feb 2012	#21
Civil Suit? nt	avebury	Feb 2012	#24
They've already lawyered up	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#51
I'd like to know what the hell she did...	MrMickeysMom	Feb 2012	#25
suspected hit-and-run	Crabby Appleton	Feb 2012	#36
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team)	dfhjkyulyu	Feb 2012	#29
Cops need to be taught that tasers are not a weapon of convenience.	Vinca	Feb 2012	#31
well said	Locrian	Feb 2012	#37
"weapon of compliance"	kenfrequed	Feb 2012	#54
Exactly. It would have been a simple matter for the officer to just throw his baton at her legs or	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#55
Does your post actually make sense to you?	thedude333	Feb 2012	#70
Sometimes it's not worth using the sarcasm tag.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#75
+1,000,000	Auggie	Feb 2012	#59
Damn, that's just awful	Art_from_Ark	Feb 2012	#32
The sob that invented the taser should have one used on him frequently	madokie	Feb 2012	#33
They Did	dwindham	Feb 2012	#44
If he had run and tackled her, it may have ended the same way.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#35
If a couple of cops tasered an out of control 5 year old girl,	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#38
I am usuall quick to jump aboard the anti-LEO bandwagon	Fastcars	Feb 2012	#39
She ran straight out into the street	TorchTheWitch	Feb 2012	#118
The use of excessive force was not an accident. Under the law, adults of normal intelligence	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#141
but it wasn't excessive	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#255
Obviously it was.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#256
It's not obvious at all	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#257
It is obvious to those who are perceptive.	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#258
Did you read this article?	skii	Feb 2012	#42
"When does one have to finally take responsibility for their own actions?"	KansDem	Feb 2012	#57
the key word is "allegedly"	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#161
Tasered woman now brain dead	dwindham	Feb 2012	#43
BASTARDS	JJW	Feb 2012	#47
This message was hidden by jury decision.	thedude333	Feb 2012	#72
This won't win any popularity contests	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#48
This shows an incredible ignorance to what a taser does to the body.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#71
This message was hidden by jury decision.	thedude333	Feb 2012	#73
This message was self-deleted by its author	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#86
You are way out of line with the insults.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#88
I'm not at all glad she's in a coma	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#94
Except she wasn't attacking. You harmed yourself with that argument.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#97
But she didn't get a bullet in the back did she?	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#99
You are using fear to advance your argument. It's not enough.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#103
You think they let her run just to tase her? REALLY?	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#109
Yes, I absolutely do believe it's feasible.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#127
"there should be an investigation to determine how she managed to slip away"	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#182
As she escaped by running?	polly7	Feb 2012	#100
I agree she should not have died, but she was attacking everyone	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#102
Your fear is clouding your judgment.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#104
That takes the cake, right there	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#111
She wasn't driving anymore, she was running away.	polly7	Feb 2012	#107
On drugs, looking for a way to escape	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#110
I can picture it.	polly7	Feb 2012	#112
If she hadn't tried to escape	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#114
I don't care WHAT she did to get arrested for.	polly7	Feb 2012	#115
Her crimes are not numbered to measure the value of her life	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#123
The most real expectation would be that a tased, handcuffed woman with	polly7	Feb 2012	#125
Sorry, had a kneejerk reaction	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#90
No, it shows an accute understanding	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#83
There was no way she was going to get away. No possible way. Not handcuffed the way she was.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#91
No the big question	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#98
Will never accept your reasoning,	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#101
Nice hyperbole. The cop's actions didn't deny society ANYTHING	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#106
The definition of justice should explain it all.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#126
Right on, brother!	Th1onein	Feb 2012	#130
dear lord, tomorrow she'll be 80 pounds	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#133
No, it will be a blind nun who was saving 8 orphans from a burning bus.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#190
+1000	Dawson Leery	Feb 2012	#148
she did not choose to be tasered....the cop chose to taser her	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#154
He made an acceptable choice	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#180
Obviously, not.	polly7	Feb 2012	#191
No, its not "obvious", its just tragic	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#201
Well gee .............	polly7	Feb 2012	#204
it was not an acceptable choice: it was a lazy choice	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#240
taser lead to loss of physiologic	Carolina	Feb 2012	#278
My friend was tased on a sidewalk outside a bar.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#281
How fragile life is.	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#60
Try not being a dumb ass and running from cops when you are under arrest.	thedude333	Feb 2012	#67
Always	JEB	Feb 2012	#108
the cop needs to take personal responsibility too	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#156
Of the two I think hers to try and escape was the worst though but	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#193
i agree...she did make a poor choice	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#242
Well she didnt even die because of the taser itself but rather when she fell she hit her head	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#248
she died because shefell after he tasered her	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#254
You forgot a part	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#262
Alternative?	ArtiChoke	Feb 2012	#105
Another case of excessive force.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Feb 2012	#120
She was crashing cars into things. Multiple times.	boppers	Feb 2012	#216
I think the videos...	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Feb 2012	#236
An impressive display of lazyness which basically resulted in someones death	senorsquishy	Feb 2012	#121
All you wingnut trolls defending the police	GETPLANING	Feb 2012	#122
thank you...and cops need to take responsibility for the choices they make	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#158
She died because of a tragic accident	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#205
Saint Pete, holier than us	GETPLANING	Feb 2012	#261
He's dead	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#291
" too lazy to run a few steps"	boppers	Feb 2012	#218
What was he doing tasering someone in handcuffs?	Th1onein	Feb 2012	#128
She was running directly out into a busy road. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#143
She was not, she was outside the police station.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#172
If she had not run, the cops would not have had to use ANY force to contain her	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#189
Protect and serve?	ArtiChoke	Feb 2012	#136
That's a great point. nt.	polly7	Feb 2012	#150
I haven't heard how long it took from the moment of impact,	The Backlash Cometh	Feb 2012	#153
Having been young a long time ago	Pakid	Feb 2012	#147
If this country had the resources, we should assign one FBI agent to each Taser-carrying cop	AnotherMcIntosh	Feb 2012	#157
authoritarian types: capital punishment is not an "appropriate" form of arrest	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#165
this was NOT capital punishment - this was an accident	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#183
He KNEW she'd drop uncontrollably to the CONCRETE once tased.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#200
Did he?	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#282
Thank you. You nailed it.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#184
authoritarian types	noiretextatique	Feb 2012	#239
You are right, blowing someones brains out with a pistol isnt appropriate	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#195
Why do we still let police investigate police?	radhika	Feb 2012	#173
I'm still trying to figure out why we let politicians vote themselves raises	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#197
She is at fault!	NORTHERNBOYRULES	Feb 2012	#188
She was out of it--he should have just grabbed her.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#203
Yeah, he did that on purpose	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#206
Yes, he did, and he knew she could crack her head.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#211
Not only is it Harrison's face	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#233
All you have to say is you've met the man, talked philosophy, shared food	Dont call me Shirley	Feb 2012	#246
What a BULLY COWARD that cop is, shooting an unarmed handcuffed young girl in the back. COWARD!	Dont call me Shirley	Feb 2012	#223
Two questions:	hedgehog	Feb 2012	#235
and Of COurse our Authoritarians are here to defend this	fascisthunter	Feb 2012	#238
That didn't take long	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#243
Not sure she can be called a "Lady"	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#284
No surprise there	Hugabear	Feb 2012	#296
right wing trolls	fascisthunter	Feb 2012	#352
This Thread is fucked up.	NutmegYankee	Feb 2012	#244
You do realize that part of the reason police departments issue tasers is precisely to stop fleeing	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#250
Or LIHOP just to tase her	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#253
Which is it?	SaintPete	Feb 2012	#252
Some of these posters would be handing out the stones	Hugabear	Feb 2012	#297
This message was self-deleted by its author	old man 76	Feb 2012	#247
"Lay down...Lay down!!!"	KansDem	Feb 2012	#249
Well, at least she didn't ESCAPE !	eppur_se_muova	Feb 2012	#263
I don't know about that.	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Feb 2012	#277
We need to retrain our police....	midnight	Feb 2012	#270
What about more progressive Police Officers?	FrodosPet	Feb 2012	#271
How about requiring a minimum degree of physical fitness?	KansDem	Feb 2012	#324
Lot of assumptions there about his fitness.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#344
I've read more than one report that put his weight at 267 pounds.	KansDem	Feb 2012	#349
His ability to sprint though doesnt matter.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#350
Cops learn holds and take-down moves...	KansDem	Feb 2012	#353
And if he had tackled her and she had head injuries and died would	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#354
Depends on how he tackled her.	KansDem	Feb 2012	#356
There is no maybe the fact is they did screw or she wouldnt have been able to run for it.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#357
I've seen some gore in my time, some really bad stuff. That was bad.	joshcryer	Feb 2012	#283
This thread is disturbing	Broderick	Feb 2012	#314
No shit - sometimes you have to check and make sure you're still at DU...	Hugabear	Feb 2012	#329
Yep	Broderick	Feb 2012	#335
This thread IS disturbing	Agony	Feb 2012	#338
I resist that notion but feel it	Broderick	Feb 2012	#339
And I "could" have hit the lottery last night.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#345
Before we get all sad about the state of our society and how sick we are.	Ash_F	Feb 2012	#343
risk of death from taser= 0.02%; risk from hit and run=0.16%	elias7	Feb 2012	#355
One-third of people shot by Taser need medical attention.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#358
And 100% of those who end up getting wounded with a gun need medical attention.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#359
He could have just grabbed her. Neither a gun nor taser was needed.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#360
Yes he might have and she could have decided not to try to escape also.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#361
So? Under these facts, taser use was excessive force.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#362
Actually her attempt did put his, hers and other lives in danger.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#363
Actually, the cop caused her death because he was lazy.	SunSeeker	Feb 2012	#364
Incorrect.	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#365
Spam deleted by hootinholler (MIR Team)	test939	Mar 2012	#366

Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:17 AM

CaliforniaPeggy (104,015 posts)

1. I hope that officer is charged with murder.

This is so out of control, the use of these tasers like this.

Horrifying.

Tasered woman now brain dead

1. I hope that officer is charged with murder.

4. the news article said that the officer's use of force was justified.

16. Whoops. Never mind.

62. Son of a bitch could have caught up to her if he was in physical shape.

198. ...and then what?

210. nope.

215. It's the head bang...

245. Tasing in theory, is less violent than a physical tackle.

268. So untrue.

287. She was already cuffed.

219. She was handcuffed already. eom.

221. She was cuffed.

293. Judgemental name calling

251. However did police manage to catch young women pre-Tasers?

301. Magical sparkling nets of happiness, I think?

342. Really?

347. Multiple arrested felon, fleeing during transport to jail.

298. A 20 year old woman, handcuffed, was too much for this big tough guy?

300. Who said he was scared?

302. Why else would a big, tough guy like that feel the need to resort to nearly fatally injuring

303. She broke out of arm-grabbing range.

331. She was a danger to the public?

346. If she ran in front of your car while you're cruising at 60 mph, and you swerved to miss her

231. I agree that the cop tased her because he was in no shape to chase her

292. In a sane world, traffic offenses are not considered capital crimes n/t

304. In that "sane" world, do car accidents not kill people?

341. So those thought to be at fault in an auto accident should be hanged from the nearest lamppost?

348. Or questioned. Until they're found to be driving without a license.

351. I think the guilt-o-meter on this one is all over the dial . . .

294. OK, so a 20 year old made a mistake & ran,.. handcuffed,...

5. As a parent, I kept thinking that could have been my kid.

52. So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman. Yeah, that's not a recipe for injury.

64. A broken leg would have been a better scenario.

74. No, Bad judgment on the girl's part

79. so she deserved to die

84. I feel your pain.

116. No, this is not the kind of response one would expect on DU...

119. We don't call posters on DU dehumanizing names like that.

132. It's the strict

194. fucking ridiculous - yes she DESERVED to be met with force - She tried to escape a jail

288. No, killing this woman is disgusting.

321. she didn't deserve *****TO DIE*****

269. I couldn't agree less with the false argument - comparing perfectly legal examples of stereotypical

322. no it doesn't

337. Your saying it doesn't make it so. Given your statements - it likely makes it less so.

82. In the same way that a woman who doesn't wear underwear deserves to be raped?

113. You're kidding, right?

213. There's a whole Supreme Court standard for it.

259. Right, it involves involves using good judgment under the circumstances, which this cop didn't do.

117. You show much compasion for your fellow humans...

152. Welcome to DU. One thing, if you want to look like a Democrat you must show

227. Your immorality will fall back on you.

299. No, she didn't. To get the death penalty, you have to be charged with murder, then you are

129. So when a 267 lb man tackles a 100 lb woman

149. he didn't even have to tackle her

226. With what?

241. um...he could have run after her

295. You do realize that cops chase and apprehend people all the time, right?

96. I can't get the link to work so I've got a question regarding

131. She had just been booked and was trying to escape

160. DRUGS IN HER SYSTEM, OMG. Well death is justified then. nm

175. Wow.

265. Someone's sarcasmometer needs tuning ... nt

266. I understood the sarcasm just fine

310. "Talk about a stupid post." Is that all you have. We are done. nm

313. Nope, that is not all I had

170. oh, well there it is.. total justification for forfeiting her life

140. Ooops, your slip is showing. To suggest that someone here suggested that

145. He could have just shot her in the ankle. She may have been hamstrung, but she'd be alive. nt

185. No one suggested he should tackle her?

308. I believe those were all after your post, "So you want a 267 Lb man tackling a 100 lb woman."

315. "Interesting how some "Democrats""

328. "She is a criminal"? Oh really. So you've tried and convicted her and think she therefore

336. Yes, she is a criminal

166. No, he should have just grabbed her by her handcuffed arms--no injury.

167. She was handcuffed in front. nt

169. So? He could have grabbed either arm, or both, from behind.

174. You ever try to restrain someone who is trying run purposefully into a busy road?

181. Yes, I do it all the time with my 8-year-old.

321. she didn't deserve TO DIE