Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:57 PM
onehandle (35,409 posts)
Google tricks Internet Explorer, foils privacy settings, Microsoft says
Google has secretly been bypassing your privacy settings in Internet Explorer, Microsoft claimed Monday afternoon.
The startling accusation came in a blog post Monday by Dean Hachamovitch, Microsoft’s corporate vice president for Internet Explorer. On Friday, a Wall Street Journal investigation revealed that the search and advertising giant was bypassing the privacy settings of millions of people using Apple Safari browsers on iPhones and desktop computers. “When the IE team heard that Google had bypassed user privacy settings on Safari, we asked ourselves a simple question: is Google circumventing the privacy preferences of Internet Explorer users too?” Hachamovitch wrote. “We’ve discovered the answer is yes: Google is employing similar methods to get around the default privacy protections in IE and track IE users with cookies." http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/20/google-tricks-internet-explorer-foils-privacy-settings-microsoft-says First it was Safari. Now it's IE. Firefox and others are being investigated. Guess what the result will be. 'Don't be evil'
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48 replies, 6324 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| onehandle | Feb 2012 | OP | |
| begin_within | Feb 2012 | #1 | |
| onehandle | Feb 2012 | #2 | |
| SomeGuyInEagan | Feb 2012 | #26 | |
| liberalmike27 | Feb 2012 | #33 | |
| xtraxritical | Feb 2012 | #11 | |
| FredisDead | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
| Stop n think | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
| tabasco | Feb 2012 | #41 | |
| McCamy Taylor | Feb 2012 | #5 | |
| TygrBright | Feb 2012 | #6 | |
| Lasher | Feb 2012 | #12 | |
| woodsprite | Feb 2012 | #36 | |
| saras | Feb 2012 | #18 | |
| Nihil | Feb 2012 | #23 | |
| randome | Feb 2012 | #27 | |
| jdadd | Feb 2012 | #7 | |
| wtmusic | Feb 2012 | #24 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Feb 2012 | #32 | |
| jdadd | Feb 2012 | #48 | |
| geckosfeet | Feb 2012 | #8 | |
| wtmusic | Feb 2012 | #9 | |
| nilram | Feb 2012 | #15 | |
| christx30 | Feb 2012 | #16 | |
| nilram | Feb 2012 | #28 | |
| christx30 | Feb 2012 | #34 | |
| boppers | Feb 2012 | #40 | |
| wtmusic | Feb 2012 | #46 | |
| stockholmer | Feb 2012 | #10 | |
| Lasher | Feb 2012 | #13 | |
| stockholmer | Feb 2012 | #14 | |
| d_r | Feb 2012 | #22 | |
| stockholmer | Feb 2012 | #25 | |
| d_r | Feb 2012 | #29 | |
| saras | Feb 2012 | #17 | |
| Bonobo | Feb 2012 | #19 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Feb 2012 | #21 | |
| DUIC | Feb 2012 | #31 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Feb 2012 | #35 | |
| DUIC | Feb 2012 | #37 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Feb 2012 | #39 | |
| DUIC | Feb 2012 | #42 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Feb 2012 | #43 | |
| DUIC | Feb 2012 | #44 | |
| wtmusic | Feb 2012 | #47 | |
| dfhjkyulyu | Feb 2012 | #20 | |
| DUIC | Feb 2012 | #30 | |
| Bladian | Feb 2012 | #38 | |
| elifino | Feb 2012 | #45 |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:58 PM
begin_within (21,231 posts)
1. Why does anyone even bother with Google any more?
Response to begin_within (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:02 PM
onehandle (35,409 posts)
2. The 'Mountain View Ad Agency' services are 'free.'
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...for a price.
Your privacy. Imagine what they do with Android users' data? |
Response to onehandle (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:41 PM
SomeGuyInEagan (1,137 posts)
26. A number of colleges and universities use Gmail exclusively now.
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Including R1 research schools.
Aside from privacy, what is also troubling with this is what happens if Google gets hacked or worse. Call me a cynic, but I just don't trust any corporation entirely, despite what their signed contracts say. |
Response to onehandle (Reply #2)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:45 PM
liberalmike27 (1,990 posts)
33. Why are People Still Using IE?
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I stuck with it for a long time, and finally it just became so unstable that I went whole-hog into Mozilla Firefox, and I've never looked back.
It synchs across several computers, favorites, settings and such, and has a built in spell-checker, is faster, and more stable. And does anyone think it's weird that while Google and Firefox continue to update their browsers with XP, that IE, a MS product is the only one you can't update, UNLESS you buy Windows 7. That's kind of raw--if nothing else they should come up with a version of IE9. Google does more good than bad I think. |
Response to begin_within (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:43 PM
xtraxritical (2,954 posts)
11. I prefer BING. eom
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:26 PM
FredisDead (264 posts)
3. Google tricked Apple's Safari in order to track users
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57379931-281/wsj-google-tricked-apples-safari-in-order-to-track-users/
The Wall Street Journal reported today that Google and other ad companies have been using special code to sidestep privacy settings in Apple's Safari browser and track Web users on desktop computers and the iPhone. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:38 PM
Stop n think (10 posts)
4. OMG WTF
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So your tellin me a large company took advantage of consumers in hopes of a larger profit? What a novel idea.
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Response to Stop n think (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:50 PM
tabasco (18,290 posts)
41. Just ask Murdoch.
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No big deal!
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:39 PM
McCamy Taylor (13,710 posts)
5. Time for "Operation Fuck Google's Data Mining."
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Extremely easy to do. Get a dictionary. Flip to random pages and choose random words. Seach the random word. Do this at irregular intervals whenever you are online. Be sure to do several "related" searches about your random topic so that it looks like you really have an interest in "sprockets". Set a few of these sites to your "favorites" and visit them everytime you go online. Your "search history" will become worthless to the businesses which are paying Google to sell them your info so that they can target ads at you. And you migt learn sometjhing about sprockets, too!
If everyone using Google did this everytime they log on, there would soon cease to be a market for Google's data mining. |
Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #5)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:45 PM
TygrBright (12,820 posts)
6. Easier: Switch to Ixquick or DuckDuckGo. n/t
Response to TygrBright (Reply #6)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:07 AM
Lasher (20,466 posts)
12. Thanks, I bookmarked those.
Response to Lasher (Reply #12)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:02 PM
woodsprite (5,818 posts)
36. I'm always in the market for new search engines
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One minor thing though - duckduckgo doesn't work with the 'Web of Trust' Firefox plugin, where ixquick does.
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #5)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:55 AM
saras (6,670 posts)
18. Been doing that for years...
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The difference is that I actually read all the weird stuff I find. But what's the point of having a computer on all the time if you can't ask it every strange question that pops into your head. Homicide by nutria? Hominy dildo performance art? Cobalamin missiles? Why not?
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Response to saras (Reply #18)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 09:00 AM
Nihil (11,234 posts)
23. Thanks for that ...
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Hands up: Who else just did a search for "Homicide by nutria"?
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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #5)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:55 PM
randome (12,621 posts)
27. And we would all be paranoid time-wasters, too.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:20 PM
jdadd (1,105 posts)
7. Just reset the browser, to clear cookies and history, on exit....
Response to jdadd (Reply #7)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 10:28 AM
wtmusic (37,733 posts)
24. You Deleted Your Cookies? Think Again
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http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CDwQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wired.com%2Fepicenter%2F2009%2F08%2Fyou-deleted-your-cookies-think-again%2F&ei=brdDT9bVMMjXiQL525CbAQ&usg=AFQjCNGrRA_OFDuvVXD19V0qP-RE3i7B-Q
LSOs are for real. Anyone who wants to seriously track you (Google, PayPal, etc) uses them. |
Response to wtmusic (Reply #24)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:36 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,777 posts)
32. 2 ways to foil Google and LSOs:
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Mozilla "Better Privacy" extension finds and identifies LSOs, you can manually dump them or have them dumped when you close the browser.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/betterprivacy/?src=search Microsoft just published Tracking Project lists, which will block Google ads! see here: http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/p3p/ |
Response to wtmusic (Reply #24)
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 01:18 AM
jdadd (1,105 posts)
48. Thanks....I stand corrected....
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:05 PM
geckosfeet (8,801 posts)
8. Why dose anyone even use IE? Feature poor and buggy. It's a load.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:31 PM
wtmusic (37,733 posts)
9. The security of MS software has been compromised??
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It's a dark, dark day in Redmond.
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Response to wtmusic (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:42 AM
nilram (1,286 posts)
15. It wasn't easy... first they had to find it!
Response to nilram (Reply #15)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 03:05 AM
christx30 (1,168 posts)
16. I think my
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5 1/2 year old could find a security hole in IE in about an hour. That's why he uses Firefox. I've tested him on it. I'll open IE when he wants to play his games. He'll say "Daddy? Can I use the other one?" and I'll flip him over to Firefox.
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Response to christx30 (Reply #16)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:17 PM
nilram (1,286 posts)
28. I wasn't suggesting a security *hole* was hard to find
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the security was hard to test because the *security* was hard to find...
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Response to nilram (Reply #28)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:48 PM
christx30 (1,168 posts)
34. Right
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Kind of like the hole in my sock is hard to find. Cause I don't know where my sock is.
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Response to wtmusic (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:43 PM
boppers (16,588 posts)
40. Microsoft finds security hole, blames google.
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That dastardly google!
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Response to boppers (Reply #40)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:38 PM
wtmusic (37,733 posts)
46. Don't worry - it's an easy fix with IE Service Pack #4.29.a7865-11328
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Just make sure you download it with Firefox
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:26 PM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
10. Ironic, as Google Chrome is on the verge of becoming the most used browser in the world
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http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
Google is bad news all around. Thats what becomes of a firm partially backed with CIA (via their venture capital firm In-Q-Tel) seed money. http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/10/05/the-eyeopener-exposing-%E2%80%98in-q-%E2%80%93tel%E2%80%99-the-cia%E2%80%99s-own-venture-capital-firm/ http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/tag/in-q-tel/ |
Response to stockholmer (Reply #10)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:08 AM
Lasher (20,466 posts)
13. And here I'd gotten so happy with Chrome.
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Guess I'll have to go back to Firefox. Dammit.
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Response to Lasher (Reply #13)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:32 AM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
14. try Opera, it works well for me
Response to d_r (Reply #22)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:25 PM
stockholmer (3,751 posts)
25. So Iron is like Chrome, but without the nasty Google spy features?
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Response to stockholmer (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:26 PM
d_r (2,829 posts)
29. yes
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it is from the chromium, the underlying of chrome, but with the ad stuff turned off
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:45 AM
saras (6,670 posts)
17. Dear M$: You CAN'T bypass a FUNCTIONAL security setting.
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The problem with M$ is that they assume that your boss, the government, Microsoft themselves, the publishers of any software you happen to own, and the RIAA have the right to complete access to your computer, and then they wonder why other people have access, too.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 06:23 AM
Bonobo (20,521 posts)
19. There's still a microsoft explorer? Wow. nt
Response to Bonobo (Reply #19)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:21 AM
dixiegrrrrl (30,777 posts)
21. There's still Windows? Wow.
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It took me about 2 days to get used to Linux, 2 years ago.
Linux and Opera...nice combination. |
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #21)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
DUIC (167 posts)
31. You sound like a 1%er
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That's the market penetration of Linux on the desktop.
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Response to DUIC (Reply #31)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 02:56 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,777 posts)
35. Yep, that equates to the 1% on the right hand side of this graph.
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Last edited Tue Feb 21, 2012, 03:09 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) People with higher IQs tend to prefer open source OS, I have been told.
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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #35)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:08 PM
DUIC (167 posts)
37. Were you also informed that the study was bogus?
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Because, in fact, it was.
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Response to DUIC (Reply #37)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:18 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,777 posts)
39. Sorry, I am confused. Which study are you referring to?
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Link would be nice.
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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #39)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 05:55 PM
DUIC (167 posts)
42. AptiQuant's bogus survey
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http://www.sitepoint.com/ie-users-low-iq/
Quite frankly, with any OS or browser, there are no causative factors to predict intelligence. |
Response to DUIC (Reply #42)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 06:03 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,777 posts)
43. Never heard of it.
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #43)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 06:09 PM
DUIC (167 posts)
44. Sucks to be ordinary
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and in a fringe group, like Linux desktop users. It's the equivalent of being a goth in high school.
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Response to DUIC (Reply #44)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 07:55 PM
wtmusic (37,733 posts)
47. Running Windows is the equivalent of drinking Budweiser
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It's cheap, it sucks, but people do it anyway. Even when there are cheaper options.
Artisanal OS'es like Linux/Ubuntu are for those who can appreciate them. |
Response to onehandle (Original post)
dfhjkyulyu This message was hidden by Jury decision.
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 01:34 PM
DUIC (167 posts)
30. Easy Fix: Enable Tracking Protection Lists to stop Google's data mining
Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 04:12 PM
Bladian (475 posts)
38. People still use IE?
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That's news to me.
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Response to onehandle (Original post)
Tue Feb 21, 2012, 06:56 PM
elifino (357 posts)
45. I use a add-in called TRACKMENOT for Firefox
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Last edited Tue Feb 21, 2012, 06:58 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I installed it a week ago and it has stopped 6636 attempts to track. It also stops Google and Yahoo Analytical.
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