Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:36 AM

ellisonz (26,318 posts)

'Hundreds gather' in China after self-immolation

AFP – 3 hrs ago

Hundreds of Tibetans gathered in China's southwest to hold a vigil for a young Buddhist monk who set himself on fire, a rights group said, in the latest self-immolation to hit the country.

The 18-year-old monk, identified as Nangdrol, set himself alight Sunday in Sichuan province's Rangtang county, where one Tibetan was reportedly shot dead by security forces last month, the International Campaign for Tibet (ICT) said on Monday.

Citing exiled Tibetan sources with contacts in the area, ICT said Nangdrol had died and his body was taken back to a local monastery. The information was confirmed by the London-based Free Tibet.

Monks did not comply with police orders to hand over the body and more than 1,000 people gathered to hold a vigil on Sunday evening, ICT said.

More: http://news.yahoo.com/hundreds-gather-china-self-immolation-034118574.html

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12 replies	Author	Time	Post
'Hundreds gather' in China after self-immolation (Original post)	ellisonz	Feb 2012	OP
Tibet 1, China -0	truthisfreedom	Feb 2012	#1
Sad....18 YO	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#2
k/r	marasinghe	Feb 2012	#3
I really hate the Chinese Government and dislike their belief system	davidpdx	Feb 2012	#4
Please be careful	csziggy	Feb 2012	#6
Thanks	davidpdx	Feb 2012	#10
ditto what csziggy said	AlecBGreen	Feb 2012	#7
I try to use a VPN, but I'd guess they can filter information	davidpdx	Feb 2012	#11
also ditto... the chinese don't understand catharsis	tech_smythe	Feb 2012	#8
I wish I could agree	davidpdx	Feb 2012	#12
China Disinformation & Tibet Independence	fatyogi	Feb 2012	#5
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Feb 2012	#9

Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:39 AM

truthisfreedom (17,675 posts)

1. Tibet 1, China -0

The Chinese government will never figure out what to do with their appropriations.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 02:51 AM

Old and In the Way (36,254 posts)

2. Sad....18 YO

The ultimate protest...while I disagree with these suicidal acts, I can understand how powerful they are symbolically and how threatening they must be to the Chinese occupiers of Tibet.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:21 AM

marasinghe (1,249 posts)

3. k/r

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:58 AM

davidpdx (8,781 posts)

4. I really hate the Chinese Government and dislike their belief system

Which is hard to say because that's where I'm living right now. They will fuck you over when they can. Their "leadership" is to let brutal dictators kill their own people (North Korea, Syria, Myanmar take your pick). I have a few students here who are quite liberal and I have encouraged them to 1) not get involved with the communist party (including taking a government job) and 2) to get the hell out of the country when they graduate.

I have the documentary Kim Jongilla and I'm thinking about showing it to students before I leave. I honestly couldn't give a hell if they kick me out.

Ps. Oh did I forget to say I got paid 2 weeks late this month. Talk about benefits.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:56 AM

csziggy (14,199 posts)

6. Please be careful

But I admire you for being willing to take the chance.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:10 AM

davidpdx (8,781 posts)

10. Thanks

I only have 4 more months and I'm out of here. I'll keep my middle finger down until I'm on the plane.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:39 AM

AlecBGreen (3,872 posts)

7. ditto what csziggy said

they do monitor foreigners in their country, read email, check what websites you visit, open your mail, etc. PLEASE be careful. While living there, an acquaintance (from America) was pulled into the police station and was given two options: leave, or stay and have your hands broken. He went home.

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Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:13 AM

davidpdx (8,781 posts)

11. I try to use a VPN, but I'd guess they can filter information

I wouldn't put anything by them.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:22 PM

tech_smythe (190 posts)

8. also ditto... the chinese don't understand catharsis

they don't get that posting angrily on a blog is how you vent steam and NOT do something stupid.

please be very careful, and remember nothing enters or leaves the great firewall of china without being approved.

one last thing. the best way to defeat a monster is from the inside.

maybe your students should join and work their way up, slowly suggesting reform as they move in the machine.

just a thought.

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Response to tech_smythe (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 21, 2012, 12:21 AM

davidpdx (8,781 posts)

12. I wish I could agree

I think in our lifetime, China won't change that much. That is why the students who speak English well and work hard I encourage them to leave. The higher the braindrain, the more it hurts the country.

I highly despise their policies on North Korea. China doesn't want a united Korea for fear the country would 1) become stronger and 2) American troops would remain there. The truth is reunification would be a nightmare and would set Korea back about a decade financially. I read somewhere that something like 750,000 peacekeeping troops would be needed in North Korea once the government collapsed. Certainly the US wouldn't be willing to contribute that many, so it would have to be a coalition of several nations including Russia and China, the two least cooperative countries.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:43 AM

fatyogi (1 post)

5. China Disinformation & Tibet Independence

Thank you for drawing attention to this story and the struggle of the people of Tibet for Independence from China.

Please be aware that mainstream media sources reproduce China's illegitimate claims to sovereignty over Tibet in their reports.

When we reproduce these reports by direct copying and through links, we are unwittingly and probably unintentionally repeating this.

For more information, please see this:

http://tibettruth.com/2012/02/10/channeling-chinas-disinformation/

For background on China's illegal occupation of Tibet and the cause of Tibet Independence, please see this:

http://tibettruth.com/what-is-tibets-cause-about/

Thank you.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:32 PM

Uncle Joe (24,997 posts)

9. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ellisonz.

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