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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 05:52 PM

Star Member Hissyspit (40,404 posts)

Poll: Santorum Leads Romney Nationally by Eight Points

Last edited Sun Feb 19, 2012, 05:53 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/19/poll-santorum-leads-romney-nationwide-by-eight-points

Poll: Santorum leads Romney nationwide by eight points

Posted at 4:27 pm by: CNN's Ashley Killough

(CNN) — The latest results from Gallup’s daily tracking poll indicate Rick Santorum has overtaken Mitt Romney nationwide and now leads the former Massachusetts governor by an eight-point margin.

According to the poll released Sunday, 36% of registered Republicans said they are backing Santorum, while 28% prefer Romney.

The new numbers represent a five-point drop for Romney since Wednesday, when the candidate was statistically tied with his opponent, 33% to 31%. Meanwhile, Santorum has jumped five points in the same time period.

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Romney’s campaign, as well as a super PAC supporting his candidacy, have since taken a visible turn in strategy, attacking the surging candidate through surrogates, interviews and ads.

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Reply Poll: Santorum Leads Romney Nationally by Eight Points (Original post)
 Hissyspit Feb 2012 OP
LineReply I think KKKarl Rove already knows about this.
 Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #1
LineReply He scares me
 Worried senior Feb 2012 #2
LineReply Looks like the baggers have found their candidate. nt
 TBF Feb 2012 #3
LineLineReply Actually probably not
 existentialist Feb 2012 #10
LineLineLineReply One can dream ...
 TBF Feb 2012 #17
LineLineLineReply Sanatorum can't go down that easily.
 caseymoz Feb 2012 #24
LineLineLineLineReply One would think, but
 existentialist Feb 2012 #26
LineLineLineLineLineReply Just from sure ego they continue
 caseymoz Feb 2012 #34
LineLineLineReply The earmarking thing will only be an issue if Santorum loses
 nxylas Feb 2012 #30
LineReply Mitt Romney, meet Richard Riordan and Rudy Giuliani...
 David__77 Feb 2012 #4
LineReply Either one would be a nightmare.
 eyewall Feb 2012 #5
LineReply See! I told you there was a God!
 underpants Feb 2012 #6
LineReply This is going to be 1964 all over again...
 NeoConsSuck Feb 2012 #7
LineLineReply Don't look too good or................
 Knight Hawk Feb 2012 #9
LineLineLineReply If I remember correctly (I was 10 at the time)
 existentialist Feb 2012 #12
LineLineLineLineReply Thanks for that information
 Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #21
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply This message was self-deleted by its author
 Tesha Feb 2012 #51
LineLineLineLineLineLineNew Reply The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965
 Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #52
LineLineLineReply He has 0 chance in PA
 BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #29
LineLineLineLineNew Reply As a PA resident I whole heartily agree!
 harun Feb 2012 #46
LineLineReply We used paper ballots then....
 INdemo Feb 2012 #41
LineReply So far, it's voletile
 NOI4I Feb 2012 #8
LineReply Santorum will never be nominated
 radiclib Feb 2012 #11
LineLineReply GOP fat cats will not let Santorum on any ticket
 Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #13
LineLineReply You're probably right, but
 existentialist Feb 2012 #14
LineLineLineReply Yup!
 radiclib Feb 2012 #15
LineLineLineReply They're already fractured. It's a lose/lose. They got nothing and nobody.
babylonsister Feb 2012 #16
LineLineLineReply You misspelled dickhead
 Courtesy Flush Feb 2012 #37
LineLineLineNew Reply Sounds GREAT to me!!!
 elleng Feb 2012 #49
LineLineReply I can't see that happening, but I hope it does
 Major Nikon Feb 2012 #19
LineLineReply If Santorum had a majority of delegates he would infact be the nominee.
Mr.Turnip Feb 2012 #22
LineLineReply I ain't so sure...how many of us thought in February 08 they'd end up with McCain & Palin?
 Fortran Feb 2012 #38
LineLineLineNew Reply McCain-Palin in February of 08
 existentialist Feb 2012 #53
LineLineReply Does Romney have a chnace?
INdemo Feb 2012 #40
LineReply You go girl!!
 applegrove Feb 2012 #18
LineReply Just goes to show how bad off the GOP is right now
 Major Nikon Feb 2012 #20
LineLineNew Reply The GOP may be badly off regarding candidates
 LiberalEsto Feb 2012 #44
LineLineLineNew Reply Obama is doing quite well in the fundraising department
 Major Nikon Feb 2012 #47
LineReply But that doesn't matter. It's state-by-state.
 MaineDem Feb 2012 #23
LineReply I'll say it again, it will be Jeb and Huntsman coming out of a brokered convention
 digidigido Feb 2012 #25
LineLineReply the social conservatives want a strong figure - Huntsman completely fails -
Douglas Carpenter Feb 2012 #27
LineLineReply Wouldn't surprise me in the least -
TBF Feb 2012 #33
LineLineNew Reply You may be right; been 'waiting' for jeb,
 elleng Feb 2012 #50
LineReply That's just scary. Why is Santorum even in politics?
 spicegal Feb 2012 #28
LineLineReply Who says that he maybe he isn't. Nothing would surprise me about these miscreants.
olegramps Feb 2012 #35
LineReply Sanitorium? Isn't he the guy who hates women and everyone else who isn't a straight white male?
 truthisfreedom Feb 2012 #31
LineReply He doesn't even have a dog in this fight...
 MrMickeysMom Feb 2012 #32
LineReply Damn. I wanted Romney.
 Courtesy Flush Feb 2012 #36
LineReply RNC will need to work overtime to rig remaining primaries
 stubtoe Feb 2012 #39
LineReply Loving it.
 nbolick Feb 2012 #42
LineReply To keep Mittens on top
 Iliyah Feb 2012 #43
LineLineNew Reply Romney should fall over line.
 jonathanroberts24 Feb 2012 #45
LineNew Reply Just goes to show the percentage of the population who are insane in the US.
 Dont call me Shirley Feb 2012 #48

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Feb 19, 2012, 05:56 PM

Star Member Jackpine Radical (36,687 posts)

1. I think KKKarl Rove already knows about this.

This is what his droppings look like these days:

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 05:57 PM

Worried senior (549 posts)

2. He scares me

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:29 PM

Star Member TBF (18,431 posts)

3. Looks like the baggers have found their candidate. nt

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:12 PM

existentialist (2,178 posts)

10. Actually probably not

I read one column where as anonymous prominent Republican was quoted sarcasticly stating about Santorum:

"Oh great, and socially radical conservative and a big spender."

Santorum has surged now because he is little known. He will be attacked now,and his record (as somewhat of a big spender, and definitely an earmarker) will come to light, just as the thoroughly stupid things that he has been saying the last several days are beginning to come to light.

The socially radical conservative may not dampen teabagger enthusiam much directly, but the spender and earmarker histoy will, and the "socially radical conservative" will drain support from the establishment Republicans.

This mudfight gets more interesting all the time, and it is Obama and Democrats generally that are benefitting.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:32 PM

Star Member TBF (18,431 posts)

17. One can dream ...

I loved his statement about Government not being able to force you to pay for something that violates your beliefs.

I figure he's gonna refund a lot of tax dollars for me because war violates my beliefs.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:40 AM

Star Member caseymoz (5,320 posts)

24. Sanatorum can't go down that easily.


That would be the last NotRomney, wouldn't it?

It's not like conservative voters have anyone left. The circular firing squad has spoken. It's now down to a Russian Roulette finals contest between Sanatorum and Romney.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:21 AM

existentialist (2,178 posts)

26. One would think, but

Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul continue to campaign.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:37 AM

Star Member caseymoz (5,320 posts)

34. Just from sure ego they continue


But they don't have another surge (or in Paul's case, a first one) left in them. And even if I'm wrong about that, if they do, they'll show the same dickishness that they did at first glance.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:50 AM

Star Member nxylas (4,703 posts)

30. The earmarking thing will only be an issue if Santorum loses

The teabaggers will overlook it in order to get him the nomination, and then when his popularity plummets, as I expect it will once the primaries are over and the Presidential campaign begins in earnest, they will turn on him and say that it was because he wasn't conservative enough. Like all true believers, their ideology can never fail, it can only be failed.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:33 PM

Star Member David__77 (14,219 posts)

4. Mitt Romney, meet Richard Riordan and Rudy Giuliani...

I'm sure you all can comfort each other after you drop out.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 06:38 PM

eyewall (660 posts)

5. Either one would be a nightmare.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:37 PM

Star Member underpants (105,663 posts)

6. See! I told you there was a God!

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:55 PM

Star Member NeoConsSuck (2,306 posts)

7. This is going to be 1964 all over again...

In fact, I think Santorum will do worse than Goldwater.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:06 PM

Knight Hawk (347 posts)

9. Don't look too good or................

 

talk to wise as Kipling wrote a hundred years ago.I was there and voted in 1964.This is not 1964.Santorium would MOST likely win Al.Ga,Ms,La,SO CAR,Texas.Because of his Pa roots,sowewhat populist"blue collar" demeanor and being a Roman Catholic Italian American ,he will have a shot at Pa.Ohio .Probably get Az also.Many of the Far west states Wyo,Idaho,.OK and Utah for sure.Goldwater got 5 states...............maybe 6.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:15 PM

existentialist (2,178 posts)

12. If I remember correctly (I was 10 at the time)

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Goldwater carried Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia (maybe South Carolina too).

I guess that it would be easy enough to check.

Just checked, it was indeed Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:10 PM

Art_from_Ark (17,099 posts)

21. Thanks for that information

I hadn't realized that most of the Goldwater states were in the Deep South. I had always thought that the South was still solidly Democratic during that time, so that information was an eye-opener.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:31 PM

Art_from_Ark (17,099 posts)

52. The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965

And the White South voted for Carter in 1976.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:45 AM

Star Member BumRushDaShow (12,021 posts)

29. He has 0 chance in PA

He is neither from here nor did he hardly live here most of the time while in office - including refusing to even educate his children here, yet still taking my PA tax money to pay himself for his kids' education anyway. And although he was Senator here, he was removed from office in 2006 by voters choosing Casey by 18% over this psychotic freak. That was supposedly the largest loss by any incumbent Senator in history.

The more his ego gets stroked by the media that insists on legitimizing him, the more psychobabble he spews.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:41 PM

harun (9,769 posts)

46. As a PA resident I whole heartily agree!

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:21 AM

INdemo (3,160 posts)

41. We used paper ballots then....

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:58 PM

NOI4I (34 posts)

8. So far, it's voletile

The Unpredictable.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:14 PM

Star Member radiclib (1,458 posts)

11. Santorum will never be nominated

Even if he sweeps the remaining primaries, he has no shot. The party will rig a brokered convention, and someone like Christie, or maybe even Jebbie, will emerge. Believe me. Ricky has no chance. It will not be permitted.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:16 PM

Star Member Kingofalldems (11,197 posts)

13. GOP fat cats will not let Santorum on any ticket

+1

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:19 PM

existentialist (2,178 posts)

14. You're probably right, but

the infighting necessary to prevent his nomination would severely fracture the Republican Party.

There are many diehards who believe, and will continue to believe, that only a radical conservative can win.

They will be embittered and very angry if they perceive establishment Republications stepping in to take the nomination away from Santorum.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 09:59 PM

Star Member radiclib (1,458 posts)

15. Yup!

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:15 PM

Star Member babylonsister (144,376 posts)

16. They're already fractured. It's a lose/lose. They got nothing and nobody.

I actually wish there was a viable candidate, but I don't see one.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:18 AM

Courtesy Flush (4,253 posts)

37. You misspelled dickhead

Seriously, all I could see was dickhead instead of diehard. Had to read it three times. Dickhead works better.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:24 PM

Star Member elleng (40,928 posts)

49. Sounds GREAT to me!!!

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:46 PM

Star Member Major Nikon (10,106 posts)

19. I can't see that happening, but I hope it does

If something like that were to happen, it would destroy the GOP at least for the next 4 yr election cycle or two and perhaps permanently. It would also make them an easy target for Democrats who would correctly paint them as a party that has no value for democratic principles.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:32 PM

Mr.Turnip (624 posts)

22. If Santorum had a majority of delegates he would infact be the nominee.

If he swept the remaining primaries he WOULD be the nominee. He would have a majority of delegates and if that happened there is not anything they could do to stop him as it would not be a brokered convention.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:29 AM

Fortran (83 posts)

38. I ain't so sure...how many of us thought in February 08 they'd end up with McCain & Palin?

 

I sure didn't...

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:03 PM

existentialist (2,178 posts)

53. McCain-Palin in February of 08

Nobody foresaw McCain-Palin in February of 08, but that was because Palin was so obscure (and so completely unqualified). If McCain had thought about McCain-Palin he would have had her vetted, and it would have been.

McCain's candidacy was seen as a very real possibility.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:20 AM

INdemo (3,160 posts)

40. Does Romney have a chnace?

..The 2000 election ?..I thought as millions of other voters did that Bush didnt stand a chance in 2000..but along came the Kate Harris,Jeb and other thieves along with the Repukes on the court and walla...
With technological improvements over the years election theft may have become much simpler and the desperate billionaires may take advantage of it.....

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:32 PM

Star Member applegrove (58,771 posts)

18. You go girl!!

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 10:59 PM

Star Member Major Nikon (10,106 posts)

20. Just goes to show how bad off the GOP is right now

Santorum couldn't even win a Senate race in his own state. He was an incumbent who lost by 17 points. The only reason he's doing well at all right now is because the public outside of Pennsylvania doesn't know him. He's made statements disparaging the libertarian wing of the GOP which means the only voters he's going to be able to pull in are the hard core social conservatives and the racists who are going to pull the lever for any white man who runs against Obama.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:09 PM

Star Member LiberalEsto (16,919 posts)

44. The GOP may be badly off regarding candidates

but don't forget all that anonymous super-PAC money flowing from scum like the Kochroaches
and the many dirty tricksters and election-stealing experts they've got working for them. And of course their Supreme Court majority.

It's going to be a challenge for Obama, regardless of what idiot they nominate.
I'm sure he will prevail, but it won't be a piece of cake.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:54 PM

Star Member Major Nikon (10,106 posts)

47. Obama is doing quite well in the fundraising department

Just the other day, Biden was in North Texas of all places raising money and having a good go at it.

The race is likely to boil down to three moderate states, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida just as it has in the last several elections. Santorum, or any other candidate who pretends to be a hard core social conservative, is not going to do well in any of those three. Nobody can win the election without support of moderates and independents. Much will also depend on the economy. If the economy keeps recovering at the rate it currently is, no Republican is going to have a chance regardless of how much money the Kock brothers pour into it.

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Sun Feb 19, 2012, 11:48 PM

MaineDem (18,161 posts)

23. But that doesn't matter. It's state-by-state.

Remember 2008 and Obama-Clinton?

It's all about delegates and who wins the individual states. National popular vote doesn't count a bit - except to the media.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 03:31 AM

digidigido (555 posts)

25. I'll say it again, it will be Jeb and Huntsman coming out of a brokered convention

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 05:09 AM

Star Member Douglas Carpenter (15,353 posts)

27. the social conservatives want a strong figure - Huntsman completely fails -

there is no evidence that Jeb is under any serious consideration by anyone in the know. Polling indicates that he would be a very weak candidate - For Republicans these days -the Bush name is the name that must not be spoken

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:45 AM

Star Member TBF (18,431 posts)

33. Wouldn't surprise me in the least -

the pugs don't like their candidates. As one old-school repug told me "I like Newt's ideas but he's not a very nice person". They know these won't fly. If I were to place a bet I would not count Jeb out.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:26 PM

Star Member elleng (40,928 posts)

50. You may be right; been 'waiting' for jeb,

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+ Huntsman adds reasonableness (and some right-ishness?)
But what's that do to jeb in '16???

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 06:27 AM

spicegal (736 posts)

28. That's just scary. Why is Santorum even in politics?

He should be an ordained Cathoic priest, but then I guess he'd be buggering little boys.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 09:59 AM

olegramps (3,931 posts)

35. Who says that he maybe he isn't. Nothing would surprise me about these miscreants.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:08 AM

truthisfreedom (17,692 posts)

31. Sanitorium? Isn't he the guy who hates women and everyone else who isn't a straight white male?

Seriously?

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 07:40 AM

Star Member MrMickeysMom (10,773 posts)

32. He doesn't even have a dog in this fight...

... unless there's a man atop it.


(yeah, I know it's getting old, but so are the GOP strategists of the religious wrong)

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:16 AM

Courtesy Flush (4,253 posts)

36. Damn. I wanted Romney.

He's so full of holes, it would be a slam dunk for Obama.

Not like Santorum would fire up anybody, though.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:45 AM

stubtoe (1,854 posts)

39. RNC will need to work overtime to rig remaining primaries

to keep Mitt at the top.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 11:58 AM

nbolick (16 posts)

42. Loving it.

No one can beat Obama. If it could actually happen Chris Christie would be running.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:08 PM

Iliyah (2,504 posts)

43. To keep Mittens on top

ummmmmmmmmmm, like cheat? I'm pretty sure they did that in Maine and will continue to do so in the foreseeable future. The higher ups in the gop party know that Frosty can't connect with most Americans. He's already alienating the "Protestants" with his over the top Catholic rhetoric. Frosty is preaching for one religion which is the Catholic religion and that my friends is trickling down to us common folks as against "Freedom of Religion".

He's mentioned nothing about helping America's ecomony nor its people pull out of this distrasous situtation which I shall remind everyone that it was the gop party that created this and now they have their "golden child" Daniels spouting lies (what else is new).

These so called "Christians" have broken just about every (10) commandment there is and which view themselves as closer to "God like". Smells like how the "Nazi" started.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 12:39 PM

jonathanroberts24 (4 posts)

45. Romney should fall over line.

 

Romney seems to have the better PR machine, and I still think he will take the Republican primary race, but heck he will be limping over the line. Momentum seems to be with Santorum, but it's worth pointing out that here in the UK the bookmakers make Romney 2/7 favourite to win. This means that if you wanted to win $2 you would have to stake $7 - i.e. the odds are very short for Mitt.

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Mon Feb 20, 2012, 04:06 PM

Dont call me Shirley (1,395 posts)

48. Just goes to show the percentage of the population who are insane in the US.

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