Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:00 AM
Redstate Bluegirl (213 posts)
Pat Buchanan out at MSNBC
NEW YORK—MSNBC dropped conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on Thursday, four months after suspending him following the publication of his latest book.
The book "Suicide of a Superpower" contained chapters titled "The End of White America" and "The Death of Christian America." Critics called the book racist, anti-Semitic and homophobic, charges Buchanan denied. MSNBC President Phil Griffin said last month that he didn't think Buchanan's book "should be part of the national dialogue, much less part of the dialogue on MSNBC." The network said on Thursday that "after 10 years, we have decided to part ways with Pat Buchanan. We wish him well." Buchanan, in a column posted on Thursday, called the decision "an undeniable victory for the blacklisters." Link here http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2012/02/16/pat_buchanan_out_at_msnbc/ Good riddance! Now get rid of Scarborough!
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| Redstate Bluegirl | Feb 2012 | OP | |
| teddy51 | Feb 2012 | #1 | |
| Zoeisright | Feb 2012 | #49 | |
| WCGreen | Feb 2012 | #2 | |
| Old and In the Way | Feb 2012 | #3 | |
| MurrayDelph | Feb 2012 | #32 | |
| center rising | Feb 2012 | #4 | |
| rsmith6621 | Feb 2012 | #9 | |
| Faygo Kid | Feb 2012 | #38 | |
| lovuian | Feb 2012 | #5 | |
| JJW | Feb 2012 | #6 | |
| madamesilverspurs | Feb 2012 | #7 | |
| caseymoz | Feb 2012 | #8 | |
| Mira | Feb 2012 | #16 | |
| Myrina | Feb 2012 | #19 | |
| lunatica | Feb 2012 | #22 | |
| stonecutter357 | Feb 2012 | #33 | |
| Redstate Bluegirl | Feb 2012 | #40 | |
| caseymoz | Feb 2012 | #44 | |
| Redstate Bluegirl | Feb 2012 | #45 | |
| Ichingcarpenter | Feb 2012 | #10 | |
| JHB | Feb 2012 | #11 | |
| Drunken Irishman | Feb 2012 | #12 | |
| Kolesar | Feb 2012 | #13 | |
| Ichingcarpenter | Feb 2012 | #15 | |
| LeftishBrit | Feb 2012 | #21 | |
| Kolesar | Feb 2012 | #29 | |
| wtmusic | Feb 2012 | #25 | |
| nxylas | Feb 2012 | #14 | |
| ejbr | Feb 2012 | #17 | |
| sarcasmo | Feb 2012 | #18 | |
| LeftishBrit | Feb 2012 | #20 | |
| lunatica | Feb 2012 | #24 | |
| wtmusic | Feb 2012 | #26 | |
| lunatica | Feb 2012 | #28 | |
| lastlib | Feb 2012 | #23 | |
| Stellar | Feb 2012 | #27 | |
| sinkingfeeling | Feb 2012 | #30 | |
| patrice | Feb 2012 | #31 | |
| orleans | Feb 2012 | #34 | |
| jwirr | Feb 2012 | #35 | |
| MarkCharles | Feb 2012 | #36 | |
| Turbineguy | Feb 2012 | #37 | |
| beac | Feb 2012 | #39 | |
| Fearless | Feb 2012 | #41 | |
| sarcasmo | Feb 2012 | #55 | |
| Major Hogwash | Feb 2012 | #42 | |
| muntrv | Feb 2012 | #43 | |
| center rising | Feb 2012 | #46 | |
| Redstate Bluegirl | Feb 2012 | #48 | |
| Mosaic | Feb 2012 | #47 | |
| Neoma | Feb 2012 | #50 | |
| Mkap | Feb 2012 | #51 | |
| underpants | Feb 2012 | #54 | |
| tooeyeten | Feb 2012 | #52 | |
| Zorro | Feb 2012 | #53 |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:03 AM
teddy51 (3,491 posts)
1. About fucking time! n/t
Response to teddy51 (Reply #1)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 02:04 AM
Zoeisright (7,800 posts)
49. My exact words.
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Buchanan could easily be (and perhaps is) the Grand Master Wizard Dipshit of the KKK.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:06 AM
WCGreen (44,916 posts)
2. That fucking ass hole should have been banished from the airwaves years ago...
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Anyone who gives him or his sister air time is just pathetic.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:08 AM
Old and In the Way (36,254 posts)
3. The whitelisters over at Fox News will welcome you with open arms, Pat.
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You can spew your racist bile and tell stories about all of the awful people you worked with a MSNBC.
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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:28 AM
MurrayDelph (1,598 posts)
32. Is that "Whitelisters" or
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White Hooders?
And do white hoods go with a Brown Shirt? |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:18 AM
center rising (971 posts)
4. He'll be at FuxNews inside a month
Response to center rising (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 03:19 AM
rsmith6621 (6,650 posts)
9. At Least at Fuxs I wont have to worry about his creepyness suprising me while watch Hardball.
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eom
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Response to center rising (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:43 PM
Faygo Kid (20,212 posts)
38. Pat Buchanan joins Faux News in 3...2...
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I say within two weeks, max.
He'll be a great pal to Hannity. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:20 AM
lovuian (18,354 posts)
5. Alleluia!!!
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I can't believe these extremists get so much air time for freakin years
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:56 AM
JJW (1,416 posts)
6. He probably isn't extreme enough for Fox
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I think most knew him to be unbalanced before MSNBC hired him.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 02:11 AM
madamesilverspurs (6,755 posts)
7. Hope he took his sheets and pointy hat with him.
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 03:14 AM
caseymoz (5,166 posts)
8. Forty years too late.
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Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:34 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) This guy should have never gained any credibility. The very fact that Buchanan worked at high levels of our media and government, much less ever worked above a student newspaper and got near a small-town mayor's office shows how long our country's been dysfunctional.
His racism and Catholic Pietic anti-semitism has been clear for decades. He was also a belligerent, jingo creep during the Cold War, an attitude that, during his heyday in the Reagan administration, almost killed us all. On top of that, he was abrasive and dislikeable, an early pioneer of the poisonous tone of our politics. I'll never forget after John Lennon was murdered how Buchanan wrote a gloating, sneering column. It was a tone picked up and perfected by Rush Limbaugh, who referred any Progressive dying as "Assuming room temperature," and sang "Ain't Got No Home" after a homeless advocate committed suicide. I hope there's a Hell just because it would make it possible for Buchanan and Limbaugh to share the same pit and torture each other for eternity. He was corporatist, until he noticed it was hurting workers, that is to say, it was hurting white workers, then he evoked protectionism based on racism to correct it. The man is a toxic, cat-shit-laced-with-arsenic, human being. The rest of us have been gagging on him long enough. How is it the MSM has been oblivious to this until now? |
Response to caseymoz (Reply #8)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:00 AM
Mira (15,333 posts)
16. Now that's a high-brow and appropriate rant. It made my morning. n/t
Response to caseymoz (Reply #8)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:16 AM
lunatica (28,839 posts)
22. The MSM loved him as the sage old white man spokesperson
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You have to admit he was good enough at it that he made a very good living from it for decades.
I find it hard to believe that wart has been taken off MSNBC. Now I know anything is possible and it gives me hope. If they can throw him out they can still do the right thing sometimes. |
Response to caseymoz (Reply #8)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:37 PM
Redstate Bluegirl (213 posts)
40. This may shock you
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But I personally don't know any Catholics who are anti-Semitic. The fact that Buchanan IS should not be transformed into a broad brush.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Reply #40)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:35 PM
caseymoz (5,166 posts)
44. Did you read the qualifier?
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I couldn't quite find a term for it, so I used a neologism. So I'll explain: I meant antisemitic in the same sense Pope Pius XII was, as opposed to the Adolf Hitler school of antisemitism. I was raised as a Catholic in a solidly Catholic home, and a Catholic extended family. I know what I'm talking about. Patrick Buchanan considers the Jews "a stubborn, stiff-necked people" (a meme that has gone from one echelon of the Catholic hierarchy to the other and back for centuries), who just won't listen to the truth. He's suspicious of them; he thinks they're privileged and manipulative but that's tempered by a sympathy that never recognizes full equality. The suspicion can, with little reinforcement and encouragement, turn into downright bigotry that destroys any sympathy whatsoever. It's the sort of person who would struggle to save Jews from the concentration camp, but would be agreeable to confiscating from and segregating them. The sort of person who would see the silver lining of the holocaust as being all the Jewish converts to Catholicism. They would say Hitler was wrong about that Holocaust and WWII thing, but they sure understand why he was pissed at the Jews. And like Pius, it's the sort of person who would call Hitler evil, but might have praise Franco and Salazar. They're not exactly Holocaust deniers, but you mention six million Jews were murdered, they'll say, yeah, but the Gypsies suffered worse. These are my relatives. Buchanan's views on Jews are the same as my Dad's. You talk to many Catholics, and this is the attitude that you'll find. And to them, this isn't a description of bigotry. This attitude is normalized with them they don't discuss it outside their families enough to notice that there's anything off about it. It's the sort of Catholic influenced very much by Pius XII papacy, when this was the dominant attitude, and definitely the dominant one among students in Catholic schools when I attended them. So please don't tell me that some aren't like this. I know they aren't. But how many have you talked to about this? Really? It's not an active hatred, but a side-effect of having a thought process receptive to doctrines they can't question. |
Response to caseymoz (Reply #44)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:17 PM
Redstate Bluegirl (213 posts)
45. Well I'm a Lutheran
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Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:18 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) If you were raised Catholic, then I guess I'll defer to you on this point. All I'm saying is the Catholics I know aren't hung up about Jews at all. (I know one guy who's extremely anti-immigration but that's it.)
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:21 AM
Ichingcarpenter (27,790 posts)
10. He' hosting a new game show call 'Wait, Wait don't
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Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:31 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) Blame Hitler' soon to be seen on your local fox news.
White Supremacist Gloats Over Pat Buchanan’s Appearance on Radio Show White supremacist James Edwards, host of the overtly racist Political Cesspool radio show in Tennessee, is gloating today that he got noticed by the “extremist left” after MSNBC political consultant Pat Buchanan appeared on his show: I must be doing something right http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39342_White_Supremacist_Gloats_Over_Pat_Buchanans_Appearance_on_Radio_Show |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:38 AM
JHB (17,798 posts)
11. well, some Fox "contributor" will be pissed that he'll be taking thier air time...
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...is it too late to enter the Republican race? They're getting desparate for a new AnybodybutMitt.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:58 AM
Drunken Irishman (24,587 posts)
12. Woohoo!
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 05:06 AM
Kolesar (29,306 posts)
13. To Pat's credit, he was against the Iraq War and vocal about it
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Unlike Christ Matthews, who now claims he was against that war from the beginning.
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Response to Kolesar (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 07:44 AM
Ichingcarpenter (27,790 posts)
15. To Pat's credit he was a pro Hitler, racist, antisemite,
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to Pat's credit.....geez ..... unlike Christ Matthews...
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Response to Kolesar (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:54 AM
LeftishBrit (29,611 posts)
21. So was the British National Party; that doesn't make them good people.
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Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:57 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) There are two main types of right-wing hawk: the neocon-imperialists who see all foreigners as either friends or enemies, and wish to influence the world at the point of a sword; and the xenophobic-isolationists, including Buchanan, who hate all foreigners; avoid 'foreign' wars but become hyperaggressive if they imagine any threat to their own country (e.g. Buchanan did support the Cold War and the Vietnam war because he considered communism to be direct threat to the United States); and tend to be racist and to whip up hatred of 'enemies within'.
Both types are dangerous, just in different ways. |
Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #21)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:46 AM
Kolesar (29,306 posts)
29. You are attributing to me a statement that I did not make
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good people
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Response to Kolesar (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:29 AM
wtmusic (37,725 posts)
25. Pat did have moments of insight
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which you don't usually get at all from a complete tool.
Good riddance. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:50 AM
nxylas (4,697 posts)
14. Is that the same MSNBC that's supposedly "the liberal answer to Fox News"?
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I'm confused (but not really).
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:31 AM
ejbr (3,953 posts)
17. ....hmmm
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"blacklisters"...I wonder if that's code.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:34 AM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
18. That's a start.
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 08:50 AM
LeftishBrit (29,611 posts)
20. Good!
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I first came across him in 2002 when he wrote something defending LePen; and have hated him ever since.
I HATE hard-right-wingers!!! |
Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #20)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:28 AM
lunatica (28,839 posts)
24. He's been around since Nixon was President
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He served as President Nixon's speechwriter and President Reagan's White House Communications Director, and he coined the term "Silent Majority". He's been a political pundit for decades, putrifying our airwaves continually the entire time, adding his bit to hate, homophobia, racism, sexism and jingoism with his obviously decomposing mind.
It's almost shocking to see him fired. I really didn't think it would happen. |
Response to lunatica (Reply #24)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:31 AM
wtmusic (37,725 posts)
26. I don't remember anything as overtly racist as this
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in Pat's past. Almost as if he's watching his party crumble before his eyes, and this is his last F.U. to America.
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Response to wtmusic (Reply #26)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:41 AM
lunatica (28,839 posts)
28. Today's racists are out of the closet thanks to the teabaggeratti
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Last edited Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:44 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) But it was always there coming out of the sides of mouths when it was just all white people in the room. Racists have always made the mistake that if you're white you're one of them. Buchanan just got confident because it's so blatant now. If the Republicans can out and out display overt racism, why shouldn't he? I suspect he always strove to be an intellectual leader of this group. The 'thinking racist' who could mold and manipulate public opinion. He probably received fan mail from Rush's listeners.
Like a lot of egotists he overstepped himself and fell into a trap created by his own cockiness. A lot like Newt is doing. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:17 AM
lastlib (3,739 posts)
23. Good Riddance Pat Puke-Cannon!!
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Or is it Pat BuKKKanan?
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:32 AM
Stellar (313 posts)
27. YES!!!!!
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Cooool!
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 10:52 AM
sinkingfeeling (27,783 posts)
30. About time.
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:13 AM
patrice (47,289 posts)
31. His personal network will continue to beat the Race War drums. nt
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 12:53 PM
orleans (21,693 posts)
34. they didn't know this about him for the past ten years?
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it took a book to tell them this? didn't they ever listen to him on their own network?
give me a break. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:20 PM
jwirr (20,905 posts)
35. Good.
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 01:28 PM
MarkCharles (2,261 posts)
36. How about Morning Joke next?
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His show is so much better when he isn't around to rant and rave about how wonderful Republicans are for American free enterprise.
When he's not there, it's actually quite watchable and informative. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:42 PM
Turbineguy (16,528 posts)
37. Gee
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and he seemed so reasonable during the Bush Administration!
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 04:45 PM
beac (9,340 posts)
39. As my grandmother used to say,
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"Good riddance to bad rubbish."
So long, Pat! You won't be missed. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:40 PM
Fearless (12,390 posts)
41. 'Scuse me whilist I warm up the band....
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Buh-bye asshat, don't let the door kick you in your bigoted ass on the way out! |
Response to Fearless (Reply #41)
Mon Feb 20, 2012, 10:34 AM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
55. +1 that band kicks ASS.
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:55 PM
Major Hogwash (12,365 posts)
42. Why? Ron Paul is running for President and he's just as racist as Pat ever was.
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I don't get the selective posturing done at MSNBC.
One day they love Bush, the next day they hate Bush. Odd. |
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 06:57 PM
muntrv (8,341 posts)
43. Buh bye Pukecannon! Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:03 PM
center rising (971 posts)
46. Should have been done a long time ago.
Response to center rising (Reply #46)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 01:20 AM
Redstate Bluegirl (213 posts)
48. Ohio?
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(One of my dad's favorite songs LOL!)
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Fri Feb 17, 2012, 11:46 PM
Mosaic (1,346 posts)
47. The really big boil on America's ass is Fux Noise
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Let's get rid of that next!
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 03:17 AM
Neoma (8,979 posts)
50. I never have paid attention to him.
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I guess I didn't miss anything loving.
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Sat Feb 18, 2012, 07:21 PM
Mkap (171 posts)
51. Why did he even get hired in the first place
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It's not like his new book was the first time he had ever made insensitive racial remarks. He's been writing it for the past 30 something years and yet he was still hired by MSNBC????? Why did they hire him in the first place? Did they need someone to represent the voice of the KKK?
Of course this works out well for Pat, it comes just in time to jump on board to the campaign of his fellow KKK congressmen Ron Paul |
Response to Mkap (Reply #51)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 08:39 PM
underpants (105,616 posts)
54. A voice in the choir. the BIG LIE.
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he served a puprose
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Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 02:37 PM
tooeyeten (660 posts)
52. NBC's execs are slow n/t
Response to Redstate Bluegirl (Original post)
Sun Feb 19, 2012, 03:14 PM
Zorro (3,997 posts)
53. One thing's for certain
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Pat really, really hates being on a "black"list.
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