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Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:18 PM

Ireland High Court Refuses to Grant Arrest Warrant for Snowden

Source: Irish Times

High Court refuses to grant arrest warrant for Snowden

Judge ‘compelled’ to reject application as it does not state where alleged offences committed

Mon, Jul 8, 2013, 16:55
First published:
Mon, Jul 8, 2013, 16:55

The High Court has refused an application by the United States for an arrest warrant for the former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden.

In a judgment issued this afternoon, Judge Colm Mac Eochaidh said he was “compelled” to reject the application for a provisional arrest warrant, which was made by the US embassy to the Department of Foreign Affairs last Friday, because it did not state where the alleged offences were committed.

The application, under the Extradition Act 1965, was brought to the High Court by the attorney general last Saturday.

According to the judgment, the US authorities made contact with their Irish counterparts on an informal basis on July 4th. The following day, the US embassy made a formal request for a provisional arrest warrant to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.

Read more: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/high-court-refuses-to-grant-arrest-warrant-for-snowden-1.1456798

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Reply Ireland High Court Refuses to Grant Arrest Warrant for Snowden (Original post)
Hissyspit Jul 2013 OP
frontier00 Jul 2013 #1
Sanity Claws Jul 2013 #2
1monster Jul 2013 #3
snooper2 Jul 2013 #7
olddad56 Jul 2013 #28
snooper2 Jul 2013 #31
Amonester Jul 2013 #39
another_liberal Jul 2013 #8
cosmicone Jul 2013 #16
another_liberal Jul 2013 #38
hack89 Jul 2013 #43
saidsimplesimon Jul 2013 #4
djean111 Jul 2013 #6
A Simple Game Jul 2013 #18
djean111 Jul 2013 #21
DeSwiss Jul 2013 #5
another_liberal Jul 2013 #9
snooper2 Jul 2013 #10
Romulus Quirinus Jul 2013 #13
RC Jul 2013 #14
East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #23
snooper2 Jul 2013 #24
olddad56 Jul 2013 #29
snooper2 Jul 2013 #33
Psephos Jul 2013 #40
avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #11
dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #12
xtraxritical Jul 2013 #15
muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #17
xtraxritical Jul 2013 #20
struggle4progress Jul 2013 #19
former9thward Jul 2013 #22
COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #27
former9thward Jul 2013 #34
COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #36
muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #37
COLGATE4 Jul 2013 #41
caseymoz Jul 2013 #25
struggle4progress Jul 2013 #26
olddad56 Jul 2013 #30
Cha Jul 2013 #32
reusrename Jul 2013 #35
kpete Jul 2013 #42

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:20 PM

1. What?

 

Snowden is in Ireland?

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:21 PM

2. So he could safely land in Shannon Airport now

But how does he get there from Russia without crossing France, Spain?

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:25 PM

3. Fly from Russia over the Artic Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean and Ireland...

But does any commercial airliner take that route?

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:41 PM

7. If Snowjob was smart he would have pre-arranged

For a Toyota Hilux and some 50 gallon barrels of fuel



&nofeather=True

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:27 PM

28. Snowjob, cute.

you are very clever, blowjob.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:38 PM

31. At least mine rhymed

"snooper2 , blowjob"?

Try a LITTLE bit harder than that-

how about-
gooberdo, or snooperpooper, or loserlue?



Oh, I found a picture of our President checking your mail---




Now what's so funny?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:17 PM

39. HAHA! Good one!! :)

And on a *legally* tax-evading apple laptop, no less!

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:43 PM

8. Via Africa would be the way to South America.

We don't completely control that continent, yet.

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:43 PM

16. He can fly Aeroflot to Johannesburg and then

South African Airways to Buenos Aires Argentina and from there Aerolineas Argentinas to Caracas.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:12 PM

38. I've heard . . .

I've heard it said that, "Nothing is safe."

Mr. Snowden may make it to asylum by way of South Africa, but however he goes, I sincerely hope he gets there.

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Response to cosmicone (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:40 PM

43. Aeroflot no longer flies to Johannesburg. Angola is their only African destination

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:34 PM

4. Thank you Hissyspit and Ireland's Judge Mac Eochaidh. Are we sure

Tsar Putin is ready to part with such a prize?

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:38 PM

6. I am not sure Putin didn't know about the spying long before Snowden revealed anything.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:23 PM

18. I am sure Putin knew about the spying before Snowden and probably already knew

more than Snowden has revealed or even knows, and the same goes for China and most other countries, especially our partners in crime.

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Response to A Simple Game (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:48 PM

21. Yes. It just seems to me that Snowden is an inconvenience, not a danger or a revelation.

Partners in crime, methinks, is a damned big group these days.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:37 PM

5. By all currently held human rights standards.....

...Guantanamo is a violation of international laws as stated under the Geneva Convention. I don't think any country owes us any respect with regard to the application and enforcement of international treaties and agreements, until we ourselves are prepared to comply with them. Fully.


- I guess it's good to be the 900 pound gorilla.....

K&R

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:44 PM

9. Excellent comment!

Well said, indeed!

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:47 PM

10. look at all those dirty handprints on that door

smeared in dirt..


Don't we pay people to clean that?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:16 PM

13. OOOOOKaaaaaay? nt

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:16 PM

14. Torturing is a dirty business.

 

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:57 PM

23. Only a conservative would find torture funny.

 

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Response to East Coast Pirate (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:00 PM

24. Only a Pirate could love a face like that

LOL

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #24)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:34 PM

29. It seems there are two camps regarding Mr. Snowden...

The nationalist camp that thinks Swowden is a traitor, and the patriotic camp that thinks Snowden is a hero.

I line up more closely to the patriotic view than the nationalistic view.

In the end, he is a dead man walking anyway you view him.

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:46 PM

33. And then there is the camp like me

Who have actually worked with LEA in the past on "wiretaps" and understand all the technology and laws involved.

I could care less about Metadata, but when Snowjob starts releasing details like we are spying on foreign embassies and what not, (no shit sherlock), he can be silenced

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 09:46 PM

40. Here's what's scary...

People with your mentality enlisted to help carry out wiretaps.

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 01:55 PM

11. Agreed.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:14 PM

12. Chances are this isn't a one off

and the the ***ts have made the same application to all countries.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 02:40 PM

15. I don't understand, what's Ireland got to do with ES or US?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:21 PM

17. I think the US thinks it can't count on European countries denying airspace to planes

just because Snowden is on board. So it wants to arrest him at a stop, if he tries to fly to one of the Latin American countries that have offered him asylum, or are thinking of doing so.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:37 PM

20. Ok, thanks. I guess it follows.

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:26 PM

19. ... Judge Colm Mac Eochaidh said he was "compelled" to refuse the request because it did not specify

where the alleged offences were committed. However, he said this should not prevent the US authorities from making a fresh application ...
8 July 2013 Last updated at 15:04 ET
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23234116

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 03:52 PM

22. The Hong Kong application was flawed also.

Perhaps the State department should stop using interns to write high profile extradition applications.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:20 PM

27. Or perhaps it is because the Hong Kong people

wanted to gain some time not to have to address the issue until it was moot?

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #27)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:53 PM

34. Is that also the excuse for the Ireland application?

I think someone needs to think up a new one for them.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:47 PM

36. Why does it strike you as so implausible

that a given country doesn't want to touch this with a ten-foot pole? 'Lacking some detail' is the oldest excuse in the world for not processing a request you really don't want to have to deal with.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #36)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 07:29 PM

37. Perhaps they have faith that the Irish judiciary does its job, and is independent

Given the remarks by the judge - that he was 'compelled' to reject it, but that shouldn't stop the US from submitting a new one - it doesn't sound like a political decision to me.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #37)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 11:35 PM

41. I don't agree. It sounds to me like a totally

political decision being justified by a pretextual explanation that fools nobody.

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:09 PM

25. What happens if the location is secret?


I got the distinct impression the US just wasn't forthcoming.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:15 PM

26. And what happens if everybody just stops makin stuff up?

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #26)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:36 PM

30. then we would have no Faux News, or Republican Politicians, or anything to disagree about.

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Response to struggle4progress (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 04:45 PM

32. Ah ha.. details, struggle, details. :)

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:08 PM

35. They always hated Obama anyhow, you know, because they're racists.

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2013, 01:30 PM

42. thanks

for posting this Hissyspit

peace, kp

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