Ecuador renounces trade benefits from US Congress
Source: AP
QUITO, Ecuador (AP) Ecuador's communications minister says the country is renouncing trade preferences that are up for U.S. congressional renewal.
It comes as Ecuador considers the asylum request of NSA leaker Edward Snowden, which has prompted critics in the U.S. to suggest retaliation against the South American country.
Minister Fernando Alvarado told a news conference Thursday the benefits were originally granted for help in the fight against drugs but have become "an instrument of blackmail." He said "Ecuador unilaterally and irrevocably renounces said preferences."
The program has given Ecuador millions of dollars in benefits, but it faced an uphill fight for renewal. Alvarado did not mention another effort to win trade benefits under a presidential order.
Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ecuador-renounces-trade-benefits-us-congress
malthaussen
(17,187 posts)Turning down money? That just does not compute in the brains of our pols.
-- Mal
Enrique
(27,461 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)or was that an empty gesture on her part, too?
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Ecuador was the last country in the Andean Pact. Chile, Peru, and COlombia all have FTAs with the US that superceded the Andean Pact. BOlivia was suspended in 2008. Ecuador created a website Keeptradegoing to lobby for reauthorization of the pact but it was unlikely to pass as they are the only country remaining and the US isn't looking into entering into an agreement with Ecuador.
What will be interesting is if Ecuador will try to get into the Pacific Alliance Pact.
Ecuador always has Alba to fall back on with Cuba, Venezuela, Haiti, Bolivia and the enormous amount of trade those countries do I guess.
byeya
(2,842 posts)in Miami.
This is more than a gesture because it's an extension of Ecuadoran foreign policy.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)The pull out of the trade agreement will mean that tariffs will be placed on Ecuadorian products in the US making their products more expensive. the US accounts for about half of Ecuadorian trade. Importers will get their products elsewhere as a result.
I guess Ecuador really showed us.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)The Senator threatened to block any trade deal first, so Ecuador's pullout was itself pre-empted.
Bottom line is the Senator's threat to block the deal was empty posturing.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Ecuador doesn't even need money thats how awesome they are.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Comments from EU blogs:
"Ecuador has a trade surplus and Asian and African interests are just waiting for an opportunity to get a piece of the South American pie. The US won't do squat as it needs the oil in case something happens to the tar sands not to mention the economic miracle that is South America while US goes down the toilet."
"Threatening trade sanctions will be like shooting own foot as China will gladly buy that oil,flowers and tuna to gain leverage in Ecuador over US."
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Africa and Bolivia aren't going to make up the loss in trade.
Here is the Ecuadorian Embassy created website to lobby for continuation of the agreement
http://keeptradegoing.com/
You think African countries are going to start buying flowers from Ecuador now???
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)that replace the 100,000 that are employed in the cut flower industry. Good luck Ecuador.
railsback
(1,881 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)Forgive me for cut and pasting what I just posted in GD:
Published: June 27, 2013 | 9:34 GMT
The Foreign Minister of Ecuador, Ricardo Patiño, said some media distorted his statements on the time necessary to consider the Latin American country not to grant political asylum to the CIA excolaborador Edward Snowden.
Journalists referring to Patino reported that Ecuador would take more than two months to review Snowden's application. "In Kuala Lumpur I stated that the decision of asylum could be resolved in a day, in a week or, as happened with Assange, could take two months. The media removed the first part of the statement and left only the second. They're trying to cause confusion, as we already know," Patiño wrote in his Twitter account.
http://actualidad.rt.com/ultima_hora/view/98552-patino-medios-distorsionar-asilo-snowden
And another thing
Ecuador can't currently grant asylum to #Snowden, obstacle that he's not on its soil - officials http://on.rt.com/agi12q
12:44 GMT: Ecuador says it has not processed Snowdens asylum request because he has not reached any of its diplomatic premises.
Fascinating stuff from #Ecuador in response to #US #Snowden #trade threats: they've dropped #ATPDEA rather than having US revoke it. Astute.
Ecuador's Secretary of Communication announced that Ecuador renounces the US preferential trade agreement (Andean Trade Promotion and Drug Eradication Act) and offers economic aid to the US
Secretario de Comunicación anuncia que #Ecuador renuncia a preferencias arancelarias #ATPDEA y ofrece una ayuda económica a EE.UU.
GAWD the US government is fucking tone deaf. Latin America made it clear it's SICK of the US drug war, and the US held that agreement over its head? After all the ALBA countries had already publicly pledged to kick out the USAID? And that they were SICK of being called (John Kerry that was you recently) and treated as America's backyard? Who's running this show?
Published June 27, 2013
Associated Press
...
Alvarez said his country won't bow "to mercantile interests, as important as they may be."
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/06/27/ecuador-renounces-renewed-trade-benefits-from-us-congress/
Through his Twitter account the president (Correa) stressed that the Washington Post had "accused" Ecuador of having double standards.
They have managed to focus on Snowden (an ex-intelligence agent who fled the United States) and the "evil" countries that "support" him, making us forget the terrible actions he denounced against the U.S. people and the whole world, he expressed on Twitter.
"The world order is not only unjust, it is immoral," stressed the president.
...
The Ecuadorian government puts principles above its interests, said Foreign Affairs Minister Ricardo Patiño in a press conference from Vietnam where he was on an official visit.
http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1552231&Itemid=1
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)You know, the one who said "Winning!" and talked about having "tiger blood".
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)indicator of where the relationship between the two countries lies.
Hopefully Ecuador will continue to remain as defiant towards the big oil companies who want to pillage its rain forests.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)he isn't holding out.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)animals and birds dying as a result is a bigger deal than Snowden.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I think they thought it would help cut expenses from the federal budget.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)now Ecuadorian products will have tariffs in the US making them uncompetitive with other countries in the region. Ecuador really showed us.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)...
"What's more, Ecuador offers the United States economic aid of $23 million annually, similar to what we received with the trade benefits, with the intention of providing education about human rights," Alvarado added.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627
Beacool
(30,247 posts)This Chavez wannabe has no compunction in repressing those who oppose him.
Zorro
(15,740 posts)It will be interesting to see if Ecuador's economy suffers from such actions and decisions.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)China pretty much owns Ecuador, literally, at this point.
byeya
(2,842 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)rainforest, where it will have free reign to wipe out the indigenous peoples and their culture as well as all the wildlife there in order to extract oil.
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/07/05/how-ecuador-sold-itself-to-china/
Ecuador's economic development has been due to lending from China.
At least China let them keep the Galapagos for now.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)You seem confused as to what an "oil concession" is:
The oil company receives the exclusive right to explore and drill in the specified geographical area and obtains some contractual ownership right to the oil in place. Thus, the host country grants the oil company the rights to all oil production in exchange for payment of bonuses, rentals, royalties, and taxes. Modern concessions differ greatly from traditional concessions in that they cover a smaller area, last for a shorter period, and require minimum work obligations by the oil company.
Of course, even though the oil company doesn't own the land, using it carelessly to produce oil can ruin the forest and water - as Texaco proved by devastating the northern Ecuadorian Amazon from 1964 to 1992
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)such concessions.
They'll leave behind a nice polluted, dying mess.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)by claiming "China now owns 20% of Ecuador's land mass" you suggest that you do not understand precisely what it means when one grants oil companies such concessions.
But we both seem to agree that Ecuador should prevent any oil company that wins bids from leaving behind a nice polluted, dying mess - like Texaco did (now owned by Chevron):
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/10/world/americas/chevron-ecuador-lawsuit
Supreme Court won't consider blocking $18B judgment against Chevron
updated 10:43 AM EDT, Wed October 24, 2012
(CNN) -- The U.S. Supreme Court has denied an appeal by Chevron to block an $18 billion judgment against it in an Ecuadorian court.
The high court gave no explanation behind its decision not to consider the appeal from the oil giant.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)We're always dish'n out trillions to every body, so cut them off. Period.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)How difficult is it to comprehend that Ecuador's leader/govt. is putting principle over profits?
COMBATIVE CORREA
Never shy of taking on the West, the pugnacious Correa last year granted asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to help him avoid extradition from Great Britain to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning over sexual assault accusations.
The 50-year-old U.S.-trained economist won a landslide re-election in February on generous state spending to improve infrastructure and health services, and his Alianza Pais party holds a majority in the legislature.
Ecuadorean officials said Washington was unfairly using the Andean Trade Promotion and Drug Eradication Act, which provides customs benefits in exchange for efforts to fight the drug trade, as a political weapon.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627
What the rest of the world sees here is the US/Obama administration burnishing its image as blackmailing bullies.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for oil drilling.
Oh wait, they don't count . . .
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Don't be such a hypocrite! You got problems with Obama's support for Big Oil? For encouraging drilling in the Arctic? For fracking in the US parks & public lands? Got any links about how the US pressured Ecuador in behalf of the indigenous peoples in the rain forest? Of course not.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 1, 2013, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/26/ecuador-chinese-oil-bids-amazonCritics say national debt may be a large part of the Ecuadorean government's calculations. Ecuador owed China more than £4.6bn ($7bn) as of last summer, more than a tenth of its GDP. China began loaning billions of dollars to Ecuador in 2009 in exchange for oil shipments. More recently China helped fund two of its biggest hydroelectric infrastructure projects. Ecuador may soon build a $12.5bn oil refinery with Chinese financing.
"My understanding is that this is more of a debt issue it's because the Ecuadoreans are so dependent on the Chinese to finance their development that they're willing to compromise in other areas such as social and environmental regulations," said Adam Zuckerman, environmental and human rights campaigner at Amazon Watch. "The message that they're trying to send to international investors is not in line with reality."
Last July the inter-American court on human rights ruled to prohibit oil developments in the Sarayaku, a tropical rainforest territory in southern Ecuador that is accessible only by plane and canoe, in order to preserve its rich cultural heritage and biodiversity. The court also mandated that governments obtain "free, prior and informed consent" from native groups before approving oil activities on their indigenous land.
IOKIYAL.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)The final outcome depends upon how the govt. spends the income - as in relocating, educating, providing medical care for impoverished indigenous peoples.
Fabara said the government had decided not to open certain blocks of land to bidding because it lacked support from local communities. "We are entitled by law, if we wanted, to go in by force and do some activities even if they are against them," he said. "But that's not our policy."
Now let us consider how the US Big Oil companies raped Ecuador's environment and the indigenous populations for decades! Texaco was the primary international oil company exporting oil from the coast of Ecuador. This company managed the oil operation from 1971 to 1992, when it was nationalized by Ecuador.
Texaco's contract for oil production in Ecuador expired in 1992. PetroEcuador then took over 100% of the oil production management. 1.5 billion barrels of crude oil was reported to have been extracted while under the management of Texaco. There were also reports of 19 billion gallons of waste that had been dumped into the natural environment with the absence of any monitoring or overseeing to prevent damages to the surrounding areas. In addition there was a report of 16.8 million gallons of crude that was dispersed into the environment in relation to spillage out of the Trans-Ecuadorian pipeline.
In the early 1990s a lawsuit led by Ecuadorian government officials of 1.5 billion dollars was presented against the Texaco company with claims that there was an immense pollution epidemic that led to the demise of many natural environments as well as an increase in human illnesses.
A cancer study was conducted in 1994 by the Centre for Economic and Social Rights which found a rise in health concerns in the Ecuadorian region. In 2002, it was found that there was a notably higher incidence of cancer in women and men in the countries where there was oil production present for over 20 years. Women also reported increased rates in a copious amount of psychical aliments such as skin mycosis, sore throat, headaches and gastritis. The primary argument against these findings were that they were weak and biased. Texaco decided on jurisdiction in Ecuador.
The case put against Texaco remained in the works for some time. In 2001, Texaco was taken over by Chevron, another oil company, which assumed the liabilities left by the previous production. On February, 2011 Chevron was found guilty after inheriting the case left by Texaco and was said to be required to pay 9 billion dollars in damages. This is known to be one the largest environmental lawsuits award recorded
http://www.counterspill.org/article/ecuador-vs-chevron-texaco-brief-history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_in_Ecuador
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Of course the US oil companies behaved in an inhuman, evil manner towards the people and environment of Ecuador.
That's what oil companies do. It's who they are.
Regardless of whether they're US, British, Canadian. Or Chinese.
If you think the same Chinese oil companies that financed genocide in Darfur are going to treat the environment and indigenous peoples of Ecuador with respect . . .
Correa's position is not that Ecuador is not for sale, it's that Ecuador has already been purchased.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Just zapping out those one-liners.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Yet somehow I avoid the temptation to avoid mocking their way of life.
I don't mock their clothes, or their hunting methods, or their habitations.
And your attitude towards their entire culture is exactly the same as that which the US government had towards Native Americans. Force them to abandon their entire way of life. Force them to live off of government subsidies and power plants rather than nature.
The only part you missed was converting them to Christianity.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Answer me. Do you want to live in a rain forest as these people do? Would you choose to raise children there? To grow old there? My great grandfather was Cherokee. I know how he lived. No way on earth I would choose to return to those primitive conditions. My son is an environmentalist who spent two years living in an Indonesian rain forest with native peoples who had no posessions but a cooknig pot and an extra shirt. He liked them. He respected them. He NEVER mocked them. Have you ever lived in a rain forest? I repeat, you are simply romanticizing the situation, not unlike tea partiers who want a simpler life.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)How many of the indigenous people would choose to spend all day in a windowless cubicle staring at a computer screen, walking on land covered in concrete, and smelling not trees and flowers but exhaust pipes?
I respect their choice, their autonomy, their decision to maintain their way of life.
Btw, Hobbes never ventured more than 100 miles from his birthplace and never met a single indigenous person. Everything he said about indigenous peoples turned out to be incorrect.
The idea that hunter-gatherer societies are inherently full of violence and barbarism has been a thoroughly discredited notion for a few centuries now.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)sigh.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB
Divernan
(15,480 posts)The angry response threatens a showdown between the two nations over Snowden, and may burnish President Rafael Correa's credentials to be the continent's principal challenger of U.S. power after the death of Venezuelan socialist leader Hugo Chavez.
"Ecuador will not accept pressures or threats from anyone, and it does not traffic in its values or allow them to be subjugated to mercantile interests," government spokesman Fernando Alvarado said at a news conference.
In a cheeky jab at the U.S. spying program that Snowden unveiled through leaks to the media, the South American nation offered $23 million per year to finance human rights training. The funding would be destined to help "avoid violations of privacy, torture and other actions that are denigrating to humanity," Alvarado said. He said the amount was the equivalent of what Ecuador gained each year from the trade benefits.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)like the US gives a shit.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Your toga, citizen. Check the label. Made in China.
PB
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)You do realize that the lack of a trade agreement hurts Ecuador and not the US? Do you?
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)I believe that's the Ike Turner school of foreign policy.
PB
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)its Ecuador's loss, do you comprehend that? Anyway, since it wasn't going to be renewed anyway, Snowden or not, its just a political gesture.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)Finding the stick ineffective, you switch to the carrot. And, like an over the hill three-card-monty dealer, completely unaware the audience has seen you make the switch.
PB
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)Ecuadorian producers will suffer as a result. That was inevitable anyway. So I guess Ecuador decided to slap themselves before the US did.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and then turns around and marries another batterer.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)they still have Canada to boss around.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Backyard
"America's Backyard" is about the United States' traditional area of dominance and major sphere of influence, which was Central and South America for a long time.
http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=333733&CategoryId=10718
China Overtakes U.S. as Brazils Top Trade Partner
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2012-09/29/content_15793534.htm
China, Ecuador seek closer trade, economic ties
Updated: 2012-09-29 17:34
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US influence is shrinking
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Divernan
(15,480 posts)As opposed to the big mouths who wave their red, white & blue pompoms with no back-up for their unfounded claims!
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)It's appreciated.
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Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)US importers will get those products from other countries now where there are trade agreements such as Colombia and Peru.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)The Chinese take a longer view - they are loaning and investing $billions in Ecuador to develop infrastructure, tourism, technology, services and energy projects. Building hydropower stations has been a boost to Ecuador's economy, now China is moving into more mining projects and much closer cooperation with Ecuador oil companies.
http://www.thedialogue.org/page.cfm?pageID=32&pubID=3098
http://international.iteem.ec-lille.fr/south-america/chamber-of-commerce-of-china-ecuador-and-china-a-very-close-relation/
The US is systematically being replaced by Ecuador, Venezuela, Brazil, Nicaragua, Uruguay, Bolivia, Argentina...
What the US corporate media call the "Pink Tide", Latin America calls a breaking away from long term USA domination.
Mexico, Panama, Chile and Colombia are about the only rightwing countries left in Latin America - but the USA has had to rig Mexico's election, invade Panama, and pour money and weapons into Colombia to keep it that way.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They're interested in the same things the USA is--profit, resources (i.e. oil), and influence.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)like the USA is ?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/31/prophet-for-a-dying-empire-chalmers-johnson/
The Sorrows of Empire was written during the American preparations for and launching of the invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq. I began to study our continuous military buildup since World War II and the 737 military bases we currently maintain in other peoples countries.
This empire of bases is the concrete manifestation of our global hegemony, and many of the blowback-inducing wars we have conducted had as their true purpose the sustaining and expanding of this network. We do not think of these overseas deployments as a form of empire; in fact, most Americans do not give them any thought at all until something truly shocking, such as the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, brings them to our attention.
But the people living next door to these bases and dealing with the swaggering soldiers who brawl and sometimes rape their women certainly think of them as imperial enclaves, just as the people of ancient Iberia or nineteenth-century India knew that they were victims of foreign colonization.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They outsource the killing.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)than the English-speaking-dominated "Western" culture.
Even when China ruled the Seas (early 1400's) they treated lesser powers differently than Europe ever did.
It will be interesting to see how they handle being the new "Superpower" in 10 or 20 years.
http://www.amazon.com/When-China-Ruled-Louise-Levathes/dp/0671701584/
When China Ruled the Seas
This is an entertaining look at the voyages of Zheng Ho, a eunuch in the service of the Ming Emperor of China, in the fifteenth century C.E. China's navy was then the most powerful in the world, and Levathes helps us recognize this with some skillfully drawn comparisons between Zheng Ho's treasure ships (the largest wooden vessels ever built) and the puny Santa Maria. China was unquestionably the most advanced civilization in the world during Zheng Ho's time, and had the voyages been allowed to continue, resulting in permanent Chinese influence on and control of the Indian Ocean, Africa, and possibly America and Europe, our world today would be very different indeed. Levathes does a good job of explaining why Ming China decided to stop the voyages and its international trade, and points out that while Westerners tend to see this as a failure, to the Chinese at the time it seemed a success. This is probably the most valuable insight of the book, the illustration of a very wide gap between the psychological makeup of East and West.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Obviously, Ecuador and all of its peoples will be better off with jobs in tourism, technology, infrastrucutre, etc., then in the minimum paying flower "industry".
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)we'll see how Ecuador fares without the US.
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)on June 21 and 22, last year.
Here's the Wikileaks cable that discusses the plan to get rid of the leftist President using trumped-up impeachment - in March 2012:
http://wikileaks.org/cable/2009/03/09ASUNCION189.html
cable 09ASUNCION189, PARAGUAYAN POLS PLOT PARLIAMENTARY PUTSCH
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SUMMARY
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¶1. (C) SUMMARY: Rumors persist that discredited General and
UNACE party leader Lino Oviedo and ex-president Nicanor
Duarte Frutos are now working together to assume power via
(mostly) legal means should President Lugo stumble in coming
months. Their goal: Capitalize on any Lugo mis-steps to
break the political deadlock in Congress, impeach Lugo and
assure their own political supremacy. While many predicted
political shenanigans in March during the traditional social
protest season that accompanies the opening of Congress,
little has come of it (largely because Lugo has been careful
not to provide the political or legal rope with which to hang
him, thus depriving Oviedo and Duarte the numbers in Congress
for their supposed "democratic coup" . But that could change
quickly here.
Gee, MOSTLY legal means of getting the Leftists out of power in Latin America - the Rigthwing must be getting old and tired these days.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)as a governmental check. Our government demands something. . .the country tells the US government to go fuck itself.
Sometimes, it gives me a warm feeling that the bullying American government can be told to STFU and SIUIA (stuff it up its ass).
Flame away.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)its not like the US wanted to or was going to approve the trade preferences anyway. Yes, Ecuadorian products will now be more expensive in the US, and they will lose thousands of jobs since their products will not be competitive. That will really show the US.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)I'm glad they did. They didn't just roll over and say "Okay, US Government. When he shows up, we'll gift wrap him for you because you demand it."
Chavez did the same thing and the American government hated him. I'm glad countries stand up to our government every once in a while.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)The US wasn't going to renew Ecuador's trade agreement anyway so this was just a pre-emptive move on Ecuador's part. Their embassy in the US was promoting continuation of the trade status and published a website keeptradegoing.com So obviously they wanted the trade to continue.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)That good neighbor policy our government used for years exploited Central and South America for years.
Good for Ecuador. They took the attitude "you can't fire me, I quit" approach anyone would take with a bullying boss.
I believe it is time Latin America worked to break the hegemonic and economic domination the US Government and their corporate sponsors put on them.
Allende tried and the CIA overthrew him for that murdering bastard Pinochet. Ask Victor Jara about that.
Chavez did too and the US Government did everything they could to get him out. Cancer did what the US Government couldn't.
The US Government tried bullying the Hong Kong SAR and that failed. They tried bullying Russia and that failed. They tried extorting Ecuador and that seems to have failed.
Maybe it's time for an invasion to get Snowden. . .wait, President Obama just killed that idea.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)and being oh-so-proud of himself because he thinks it makes him the coolest kid in class.
Bacchus4.0
(6,837 posts)El presidente de la Federación de Cámaras de Comercio de Ecuador, Blasco Peñaherrera, consideró hoy "irresponsable" la decisión del Gobierno de renunciar a las preferencias arancelarias andinas (Atpdea, por su sigla en inglés).
"Es un anuncio irresponsable que única y exclusivamente está inspirado en intereses políticos, ideológicos y no en lo que debe estar basado las decisiones de un mandatario, que es en el bienestar de la gente", dijo Peñaherrera a EFE al tiempo de señalar al hecho como un "acto hostil".
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)Ecuador as well as the Snowden issue.
railsback
(1,881 posts)like over an hour ago?
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Ecuador has no plans to halt commerce ties over Snowden: Correa
(Reuters) - Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa said on Thursday he had no plans to cut off commercial ties with any country as a result of pressures over potential asylum for former U.S. security contractor Edward Snowden.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-trade-idUSBRE95Q1EK20130627
railsback
(1,881 posts)I know the Ecuador Chamber of Commerce was pretty pissed off at Correa for flaming all over this.. but it was all just for show. Now the pro-Snowden Guardian has to update their story.. and they're certainly taking their time about it.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)to pillage and remove indigenous people.
I hope the US checks themselves and cuts a good deal with Ecuador.
It sounds like all saber rattling, pray that reason prevails here..
railsback
(1,881 posts)and throw some minor compensation Ecuador's way. They could probably bleed that country dry in a couple of years. And its not like they have a vast oil reserve, compared to Venezuela, who has over 30 times as much.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I don't think our economy will EVER recover from such a severe blow!
Lugal Zaggesi
(366 posts)it was considered a DISASTER if even one country went "leftist", since the surrounding countries would follow in a domino effect.
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An illustration of the domino theory as it had been predicted in Asia[/center]
Rightwing US ally Colombia is surrounded by leftist countries Ecuador, Brazil and Venezuela - quick, send lawyers, guns and money !
Oh wait - they did already.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)on the Chicago "L"