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Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:04 PM

Obama: Spying programs only ‘modest’ invasion of privacy

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Source: Yahoo News


By Olivier Knox, Yahoo! News | The Ticket – 57 mins ago


President Barack Obama on Friday defiantly defended the government's newly revealed telephone and Internet spying programs on grounds that Americans must tolerate what he dismissed as "modest encroachments on privacy" in the name of security.

With evident impatience, Obama suggested at one point that he set limits on what the National Security Agency (NSA) can grab without a judge's OK because he himself might one day be the target of such snooping.

"I came in with a healthy skepticism about these programs," Obama said at an event in San Jose, CA, initially designed to trumpet Obamacare but subverted by the dramatic disclosures. "My team evaluated them. We scrubbed them thoroughly. We actually expanded some of the oversight, increased some of the safeguards."

But, the president said, "My assessment, and my team’s assessment, was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks. And the modest encorachments on privacy that are involved in getting phone numbers, or duration without a name attached, and without looking at content, that on net it was worth us doing."

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Obama said Congress had been fully briefed on the various secret programs, and suggested that lawmakers who objected to those initiatives or to "abuses" could have done so. But lawmakers critical of such programs have repeatedly made clear that they are hamstrung by the Administration's decision to classify information -- making a full, public debate involving the American public impossible.

The president dismissed the "hype" that portrays such programs as s stepping stone towards a tyrannical "Big Brother"-like government. He also denounced the leaks that fed the news reports, saying the nation's secrets cannot be "dumped out willy-nilly" without damaging national security.

SNIP.

"With respect to my concerns about privacy issues: I will leave this office at some point -- sometime in the next three and a half years -- and after that I'll be a private citizen," he said. "And I suspect that on a list of people who might be targeted so that somebody could read their emails or listen to their phone calls, I’d probably be pretty high on that list. So it's not as though I don't have a a personal interest in making sure my privacy is protected."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-spying-programs-only-modest-invasion-privacy-170140961.html



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Reply Obama: Spying programs only ‘modest’ invasion of privacy (Original post)
marble falls Jun 2013 OP
AndyA Jun 2013 #1
villager Jun 2013 #4
indepat Jun 2013 #7
villager Jun 2013 #11
lupulin Jun 2013 #5
Autumn Jun 2013 #2
evilhime Jun 2013 #3
catnhatnh Jun 2013 #6
DJ13 Jun 2013 #10
bowens43 Jun 2013 #8
Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #9
caseymoz Jun 2013 #14
MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #12
caseymoz Jun 2013 #13
Chisox08 Jun 2013 #15
tavalon Jun 2013 #16
Solly Mack Jun 2013 #17
Deep13 Jun 2013 #18
OKNancy Jun 2013 #19

Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:07 PM

1. Modest? So, just a little bit is OK?

Bullsh!t.

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Response to AndyA (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:16 PM

4. The government's only putting it in a little bit

n/t

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Response to villager (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:21 PM

7. Everyone knows modest penetration is no invasion

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Response to indepat (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:25 PM

11. Lay back and think of America!


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Response to AndyA (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:18 PM

5. Is the 'war on terror' still on?

Or is this a new one?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:07 PM

2. "modest"

What a load of horse shit. Kind of like a "little pregnant"

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:11 PM

3. His privacy . . .

So what he is basically saying is our privacy isn't his primary concern but rather he is concerned that when he's a private citizen HE may have to worry about his privacy? Can anyone tell me what happened to the Senator we thought we elected President? Granted I don't know all that he knows but this very wide net seems like a rather large fishing expedition to me . What would we say if it was Georgie doing it?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:18 PM

6. Hey Fucking Scholar....

...show me that clause in the 4th amendment about "except modestly"!

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Response to catnhatnh (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:24 PM

10. +1

Scholar my ass.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:22 PM

8. unbelievable...we'll just take a little of rights away, not much, you won't even miss them.......

what a pathetic response to a reprehensible action on the part of the administration.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:24 PM

9. Sounds like there's a scale he knows about

as in: eh, this is nothing. If you knew about the OTHER stuff we're doing, whoo boy, then you'd have a right to worry!

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:30 PM

14. Never thought of that.


And you know they're doing much worse.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:26 PM

12. "He" set limits"? So he's not the helpless victim of congress some have tried to depict him as.

 

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:27 PM

13. Modest. Whew! Thank Dog for figleafs.

For a moment there, I thought the government could see the wrong things. As it is, government allows me a fig leaf and six-shooter.

Holster not included.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:31 PM

15. That's strange, I didn't see anywhere in the constitution

that says the government can invade our privacy only if it's a modest invasion.

With that being said, Hi Agent Smith hows the family, you already know about mine.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:32 PM

16. Modest encroachments?!

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:34 PM

17. Oh, now. It was just a modest dump.

I'm sure they could have leaked more.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:56 PM

18. Wrong.

Professor Obama, did you not read this in law school?

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:56 PM

19. Duplicate topic - locking

Previous post on the same news conference here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014502921
you can add this blog post to the previous news article

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