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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:31 AM Jun 2013

Corbett to sign bill banning abortion coverage in Obamacare exchanges

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer



HARRISBURG — Women in Pennsylvania will have the right to choose insurance through the state health exchange, but it won’t extend to abortion. NO CHOICE: Under HB818, private insurers cannot offer plans that include abortion coverage on the state health exchange.

The state Senate on Wednesday voted 31-19 to approve House Bill 818, which prohibits insurance policies offered through Pennsylvania’s upcoming health-care insurance exchanges from offering abortion coverage. The bill, which already passed in the House, goes to Gov.Corbett.

Christine Cronkright, a spokeswoman for Corbett, said the governor will sign the bill. In an email, Cronkright said the bill would not “place any greater restrictions” on access-to-care for abortion. Abortions will still be allowed in cases of rape, incest or if the life of the mother is at risk.

However, the ban also extends to plans sold by private insurers issued without federal subsidy. The bill was written in response to the emergence of state health exchanges created by the Affordable Care Act. Under Obamacare, states may create their own exchanges or opt for a federal government-run exchange.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/Corbett_will_sign_bill_banning_abortion_coverage_in_Obamacare_exchanges.html

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Corbett to sign bill banning abortion coverage in Obamacare exchanges (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2013 OP
Getting it all done before he's booted out.. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #1
however, didn't this bill have to go through there state legislature? so it isn't just him /nt still_one Jun 2013 #7
Right, we are thouroughly screwed in PA. (nt) enough Jun 2013 #14
I hope not. I still have hope for the metropolitan areas, plus, I wonder if this is Constitutional? still_one Jun 2013 #19
it wont hold up in court. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jun 2013 #27
will never hold up in court. NYtoBush-Drop Dead Jun 2013 #23
OUT RayStar Jun 2013 #26
good show ... the next time people of PA will know better srican69 Jun 2013 #2
Corbett and PA are a model of what the GOP wants for this country malthaussen Jun 2013 #5
Once again old white republican men stick their noses into what .... Botany Jun 2013 #3
That is what I am hoping. Everything their leadership said after the last election, how they were still_one Jun 2013 #8
How does this equal freedom? perdita9 Jun 2013 #4
Figures. Forced pregnancy from the evil fuck who ignored child rape. nt SunSeeker Jun 2013 #6
Wow--nice summation! Orrex Jun 2013 #17
Well then, according to the ACA the insurance being offered EC Jun 2013 #9
The ACA specifically allows this madville Jun 2013 #11
I predict these "morals" will go out the door once it hits their pocketbooks joc46224 Jun 2013 #10
39 Democrats voted YEA in support of it madville Jun 2013 #12
There is only 50 State Senators, and most, today, are Republican. happyslug Jun 2013 #29
Disgusting and stupid ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #13
I doubt anybody reading DU is part of the "you" who elected these people in PA. enough Jun 2013 #15
Unfortunately 39 Democrats voted for it as well madville Jun 2013 #20
No, Western PA, Scranton and Wilkes-Barre. happyslug Jun 2013 #31
Exactly, those who were stupid or afraid enough to vote these crooks in are not The Wielding Truth Jun 2013 #28
It already wasn't covered! Fearless Jun 2013 #16
IIRC, most private providers don't cover 'abortion on demand' now. Myrina Jun 2013 #18
The ACA requires them to pass a bill to prohibit that coverage madville Jun 2013 #22
All the stuff you need will be cut from ACA, leaving just the cost (tax) blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #21
Allyson Schwartz has got some AMMO for her 2014 challenge to Corbett! alp227 Jun 2013 #24
She's my Rep. nt onehandle Jun 2013 #25
Question Anymouse Jun 2013 #30

still_one

(92,060 posts)
19. I hope not. I still have hope for the metropolitan areas, plus, I wonder if this is Constitutional?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jun 2013

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
5. Corbett and PA are a model of what the GOP wants for this country
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:06 AM
Jun 2013

Not just PA, but every state should learn from what this piece of human waste has done to the Commonwealth. It will take years to undo all the damage.

-- Mal

Botany

(70,442 posts)
3. Once again old white republican men stick their noses into what ....
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:52 AM
Jun 2013

.... is none of their business. And once again too the republicans will be hammered
by female voters, even republican ones because they too know of cases in their own
lives or family members or friends who have needed reproductive health care and
getting it helped them out.

still_one

(92,060 posts)
8. That is what I am hoping. Everything their leadership said after the last election, how they were
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:28 AM
Jun 2013

going to change to women and minority issues doesn't look like it is working out.

In fact, what I am observing, they are even going further to the extreme if that was even possible


perdita9

(1,144 posts)
4. How does this equal freedom?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jun 2013

Abortion is a legal procedure and I should be able to buy coverage for it WITH MY OWN MONEY if I choose.

EC

(12,287 posts)
9. Well then, according to the ACA the insurance being offered
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:32 AM
Jun 2013

must comply to certain standards. Would this comply? If not then they cannot offer policies on the exchanges. So how does this have any teeth at all?

madville

(7,403 posts)
11. The ACA specifically allows this
Reply to EC (Reply #9)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:55 AM
Jun 2013

States can prohibit policies on their state exchange from providing abortion coverage if they pass a law at the state level, this scenario is specifically allowed under the ACA.

joc46224

(62 posts)
10. I predict these "morals" will go out the door once it hits their pocketbooks
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:42 AM
Jun 2013

In the form of skyrocketing teen pregnancies and unplanned pregnancies to those who can barely afford to feed themselves. I don't get these yahoos. Aren't these the same idiots who complained about free birth control? (rhetorical question). So what will the end result be? duh.

madville

(7,403 posts)
12. 39 Democrats voted YEA in support of it
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:58 AM
Jun 2013

Kind of makes it hard to say "Republicans want to control your body along with those 39 Democrats over there". Blue dog types I guess.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
29. There is only 50 State Senators, and most, today, are Republican.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:02 PM - Edit history (1)

History of this bills, including floor votes:
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/billInfo/bill_history.cfm?syear=2013&sind=0&body=H&type=B&bn=818


Actual State Senate Vote, Six Democratic Senators voted for the law, Four from Western PA, one from Scranton and one from Wilkes-Barre. NONE from the South Eastern part of the State

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/RC/Public/rc_view_action2.cfm?sess_yr=2013&sess_ind=0&rc_body=S&rc_nbr=121


Y ALLOWAY
Y ARGALL
N BAKER
Y BLAKE - Democrat - Scranton
N BOSCOLA - Democrat - Bethlehem
Y BREWSTER - Democrat Washington County,
Y BROWNE
Y BRUBAKER
Y CORMAN
N COSTA - Democat Pittsburgh
N DINNIMAN - Democrat - Chester
Y EICHELBERGER
Y ERICKSON
N FARNESE - Democrat - Philadelphia
N FERLO
Y FOLMER
N FONTANA - Demcrat Pittsburgh
Y GORDNER
Y GREENLEAF
N HUGHES - Democrat - Philadelphia
Y HUTCHINSON
Y KASUNIC - Democart - Someret, Fayette and Greene County (All south of Pittsburgh)
N KITCHEN- Democrat - Philadelphia
N LEACH - Democrat - Delaware County.
Y MCILHINNEY
Y MENSCH
Y PILEGGI
Y RAFFERTY
Y ROBBINS
Y SCARNATI
N SCHWANK - Democrat - Berk County
N SMITH - Democrat Bethel Park, Suburb of Pittsburgh
Y SMUCKER
Y SOLOBAY - Democrat Westmoreland County
N STACK - Democrat - Philadelphia
N TARTAGLIONE - Democrat - Philadelphia
N TEPLITZ - Democrat - Harrisburg
Y TOMLINSON
N VANCE
Y VOGEL
Y VULAKOVICH
Y WARD
N WASHINGTON - Democrat - Philadehia
Y WAUGH
Y WHITE
N WILEY - Democrat - Erie
N WILLIAMS - Democrat - Philadelphia
Y WOZNIAK - Democrat - Johnstown and State Collage
Y YAW
Y YUDICHAK - Democrat - Luzerne County (Wilkes-Barre).


There is a marked difference between Democrats in the Eastern part of Pennsylvania and the Western part of the State. As to economics, not much difference, through Western Pennsylvania Democrats tend to be more pro-union then Democrats in the East (and that the MAIN reason Western Democrats are Democrats are Economics not social).

On the other hand Eastern Pa Democrats tend to be much more liberal on social issues, including Abortion. Thus Western PA Democrats tend to be Anti-Abortion, especially when compared to Democrats in the Eastern Part of the State.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_State_Senate

The General Assembly had voted on this is April ( 2 Republicans voted AGAINST it)

Y ADOLPH
Y AUMENT
Y BAKER
Y BARRAR
Y BENNINGHOFF
Y BLOOM
Y BOBACK
Y BROOKS
Y BROWN, R.
Y CAUSER
Y CHRISTIANA
Y CLYMER
Y CORBIN
Y COX
Y CULVER
Y CUTLER
Y DAY
Y DELOZIER
Y DENLINGER
Y DIGIROLAMO
Y DUNBAR
Y ELLIS
Y EMRICK
Y ENGLISH
Y EVANKOVICH
Y EVERETT
Y FARRY
Y FEE
Y FLECK
Y GABLER
Y GILLEN
Y GILLESPIE
Y GINGRICH
Y GODSHALL
Y GREINER
Y GRELL
Y GROVE
Y HACKETT
Y HAHN
Y HARHART
Y HARPER
Y HARRIS, A.
Y HEFFLEY
Y HELM
Y HENNESSEY
Y HESS
Y HICKERNELL
Y JAMES
Y KAMPF
Y KAUFFMAN
Y KELLER, F.
Y KELLER, M.K.
E KILLION
Y KNOWLES
Y KRIEGER
Y LAWRENCE
Y LUCAS
Y MACKENZIE
Y MAHER
Y MAJOR
Y MALONEY
Y MARSHALL
Y MARSICO
Y MASSER
Y MCGINNIS
Y MENTZER
Y METCALFE
Y METZGAR
Y MICCARELLI
Y MICOZZIE
Y MILLARD
Y MILLER
N MILNE
Y MOUL
Y MURT
Y MUSTIO
Y O'NEILL
Y OBERLANDER
Y PAYNE
Y PEIFER
Y PETRI
Y PICKETT
Y PYLE
Y QUINN
Y RAPP
Y REED
Y REESE
Y REGAN
Y ROAE
Y ROCK
N ROSS
Y SACCONE
Y SANKEY
Y SAYLOR
Y SCAVELLO
Y SIMMONS
Y SMITH
Y SONNEY
Y STEPHENS
Y STERN
Y STEVENSON
Y SWANGER
Y TALLMAN
Y TAYLOR
Y TOBASH
Y TOEPEL
Y TOOHIL
Y TRUITT
Y TURZAI
Y VEREB
Y WATSON

Here are the DEMOCRATIC votes, 26 yes votes from Western Pennsylvania (State Collage and West). Others are from Reading, Wilkes-Barre and Scranton. One from Bucks County. None from Philadelphia and except for two (one from Bucks County and one from Delaware County) none from the Southeastern part of the State.

Y BARBIN- Democrat - Johnstown
N BISHOP
Y BIZZARRO - Democrat - Erie
N BOYLE, B.
N BOYLE, K.
N BRADFORD - Democrat Montgmery County
N BRIGGS
N BROWN, V.
N BROWNLEE
Y BURNS - Democrat - Johnstown
Y CALTAGIRONE - Democrat - Reading
Y CARROLL - Demcorat - Wilkes-Barre
N CLAY
N COHEN - Democrat Phildephia
Y CONKLIN - Democrat - Centre County State Collage.
N COSTA, D. - Democrat - Pittsburgh
Y COSTA, P.- Democrat - Pittsburgh
E CRUZ
N DALEY, M.
Y DALEY, P.- Democrat - Washington County (South of Pittsburgh)
Y DAVIDSON - Democrat - Delaware County.
N DAVIS
N DEAN
Y DEASY - Democrat - Pittsburgh
N DELISSIO
Y DELUCA- Democrat - Penn Hills - Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
N DERMODY- Democrat - Oakmont - Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
N DONATUCCI
N EVANS - Democrat - Philadephia
N FABRIZIO - Democrat - Erie
Y FARINA - Democrat - Lackawanna County (Scranton)
Y FLYNN - Democrat - Lackawanna County (Scranton)
N FRANKEL - Democrat - Pittsburgh
N FREEMAN
N GAINEY - Democrat - Pittsburgh
Y GALLOWAY - Democrat - Bucks County.
Y GERGELY- Democrat - White Oak (Allegheny County - Pittsburgh)
Y GIBBONS - Democrat - Beaver (West of Pittsburgh)
Y GOODMAN - Democrat - Lackawanna County
Y HAGGERTY - Democrat - Lackawanna County (Scranton)
N HALUSKA - Democrat - Johnstown
Y HANNA - Democrat Centre County
Y HARHAI - Democrat - Westmoreland County (East of Pittsburgh)
Y HARKINS - Democrat - Erie
N HARRIS, J.
Y KAVULICH - Demcorat - Lackawanna County - Pottsville PA
N KELLER, W.
N KIM
N KINSEY
N KIRKLAND
Y KORTZ- Democrat - Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
Y KOTIK Democrat - Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
Y KULA- Democrat - Uniontown - (South of Pittsburgh)
Y LONGIETTI - Democrat - Mercer County - Between Pittsburgh and Erie
E MAHONEY- Democrat - Uniontown (South of Pittsburgh)
Y MARKOSEK - Democrat - Pittsburgh
Y MATZIE - Democrat - Ambridge Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
N MCCARTER
N MCGEEHAN
E MCNEILL
Y MIRABITO - Democrat - Williamsport (North of State Collage).
N MIRANDA
N MOLCHANY - Democrat Pittsburgh
Y MULLERY - Luzerne County (Wilkes- Barre).
N MUNDY
N NEILSON
Y NEUMAN- Democrat - Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
N O'BRIEN
N PAINTER
N PARKER
N PASHINSKI
Y PETRARCA- Democrat - Armstrong County (North of Pittsburgh)
Y RAVENSTAHL - Democrat - Pittsburgh
Y READSHAW- Democrat - Pittsburgh
N ROEBUCK
N ROZZI
N SABATINA
Y SAINATO - Democrat - New Castle
N SAMUELSON
N SANTARSIERO - Democrat - Bucks County
N SCHLOSSBERG
N SIMS
Y SNYDER- Democrat - Greene County (South of Pittsburgh)
N STURLA
N THOMAS
N VITALI - Democrat - Delaware County
N WATERS
N WHEATLEY - Democrat - Pittsburgh
N WHITE - Democrat - Allegheny County (Pittsburgh)
N YOUNGBLOOD

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
13. Disgusting and stupid ...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:14 PM
Jun 2013

What the hell is wrong with Pennsylvania that you elected these people?

I'm kinda wondering if the main goal isn't to undermine the success of the exchanges themselves. A lot of women may well choose to buy plan for coverage that are 'outside' of the exchange, with it's draconian 'no-choice' regulations in place.

enough

(13,254 posts)
15. I doubt anybody reading DU is part of the "you" who elected these people in PA.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:29 PM
Jun 2013

I'm from PA, and I certainly had no hand in electing any of them.

madville

(7,403 posts)
20. Unfortunately 39 Democrats voted for it as well
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jun 2013

I would imagine they are from rural districts though.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
31. No, Western PA, Scranton and Wilkes-Barre.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jun 2013

See my post above for details. All areas more Social Conservative then South Eastern PA. More pro-Union, pro labor, but anti-abortion.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
18. IIRC, most private providers don't cover 'abortion on demand' now.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:11 PM
Jun 2013

So what's the point, Governor, except to please your frothing-at-the-mouth Fundie pals?

madville

(7,403 posts)
22. The ACA requires them to pass a bill to prohibit that coverage
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jun 2013

If they hadn't passed a bill they would be required to include that coverage in the plans offered by the state exchange. The ACA was written to allow this very thing.

alp227

(32,003 posts)
24. Allyson Schwartz has got some AMMO for her 2014 challenge to Corbett!
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jun 2013

SCHWARTZ 2014: http://www.allysonschwartz.com/

Schwartz is a current US Representative representing a Philadelphia-area district.

Anymouse

(120 posts)
30. Question
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jun 2013

The ACA may allow prohibition of abortion coverage on insurance exchanges, but does it allow the state government to ban privately-purchased insurance as this article suggests?

I thought the GOP was all about allowing the free market to be, well, free. No onerous (or any) regulations. Except where it is in complete and utter control of the regulations, I suppose.

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