Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:57 PM
EarlG (13,424 posts)
Prop. 8: Gay-marriage ban unconstitutional, court rulesLast edited Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:06 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
A federal appeals court Tuesday struck down California's ban on same-sex marriage, clearing the way for the U.S. Supreme Court to rule on gay marriage as early as next year.
The 2-1 decision by a panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found that Proposition 8, the 2008 ballot measure that limited marriage to one man and one woman, violated the U.S. Constitution. The architects of Prop. 8 have vowed to appeal. The ruling was narrow and likely to be limited to California. "Proposition 8 served no purpose, and had no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California," the court said. More: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/gay-marriage-prop-8s-ban-ruled-unconstitutional.html 
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EarlG | Feb 2012 | OP |
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:59 PM
myrna minx (20,537 posts)
3. Oh my god! Woohoo!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:59 PM
RKP5637 (25,620 posts)
6. K&R !!! K&R !!! K&R !!!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
Starry Messenger (21,468 posts)
7. HELLS YES!!!
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
Starry Messenger (21,468 posts)
8. Dupe
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
Pachamama (8,847 posts)
9. Just broke out in applause!
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Had friends who married and were fearful their marriages would not be upheld....
A great day in my opinion and a step in right direction....  |
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:00 PM
Roland99 (36,515 posts)
10. As well it should have been found!
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
coffeenap (3,060 posts)
12. Yeeee Haaaawww!
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Let's keep it rolling....
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:02 PM
Gregorian (19,614 posts)
13. My first post when this all began was that it would be called unconstitutional.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:03 PM
onehandle (35,501 posts)
14. Duh. I could have told them that. nt
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:03 PM
Hissyspit (40,089 posts)
15. Reuters: California gay marriage ban unconstitutional: ruling
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:04 PM
Ian David (68,448 posts)
17. Time to celebrate!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:04 PM
MineralMan (54,033 posts)
19. Not posted yet on the Court's page.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:04 PM
Kurska (3,036 posts)
21. We're in the hands of Anthony Kennedy then.
Response to Kurska (Reply #21)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:03 AM
102. Love letter to Justice Anthony Kennedy.
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Response to Kurska (Reply #21)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:04 AM
morningfog (4,188 posts)
109. Considering his reasoneing in Romer v. Evans and the air tight
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:05 PM
22. At long last!
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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #22)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:05 PM
97. LDS kind of started it.
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It was the LDS being persecuted when it was decided that marriage was up for a popular vote.
Karma is kind of funny that way. "What the hell does Walker being gay have to do w/ anything?" About as much as Clarence Thomas being on Affirmative Action cases. I love repeating that.  |
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:06 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
23. Prop 8 overturned and Karen Handel resigned from SGK
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it's a good day today
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Response to LynneSin (Reply #23)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:08 PM
26. Maybe the Warm and Loving Handel, can get a job at NOM!!!!
Response to LynneSin (Reply #23)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:08 PM
Pachamama (8,847 posts)
28. A Great Day indeed!!!!
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Response to LynneSin (Reply #23)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:46 PM
59. I just said the same thing on Facebook.
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Today has been a great day, indeed!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:07 PM
25. Links to the story at MSNBC, WP, and TPM:
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:08 PM
27. Another court smackdown for the H8ers!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:11 PM
Firebrand Gary (3,314 posts)
30. To the Mormon Church.......Buzz off
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Response to Firebrand Gary (Reply #30)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:21 PM
45. Mitt keeps that much in checking
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
32. Here's hoping the opponents spend hundreds of millions more in a losing SC appeal.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:15 PM
33. On to the supreme court we go.... Come on Kennedy!
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:16 PM
mrs_p (1,995 posts)
34. Love always conquers hate
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:17 PM
OKNancy (29,951 posts)
36. so happy, now everyone go to the source and tweet and rec for Facebook
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:18 PM
Gregorian (19,614 posts)
37. Well there goes the neighborhood. So much for that much desired monoculture of uptight ethics.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:18 PM
pinto (97,896 posts)
38. Link to the ruling (128 page document) -
Response to cate94 (Reply #39)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:21 PM
Kurska (3,036 posts)
44. At minimum a win in the SC would mean gay marriage is legal in all 50 states.
Response to Kurska (Reply #44)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:44 PM
cate94 (817 posts)
58. no, that wasn't what I meant
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Sorry, I was unclear. In IL if I had been married or CU'd elesewhere, I would be considered CU'd here. So I don't know if in CA my CU would be a marriage or if I need another license and ceremony- now that gay marriage is once again legal in CA.
I know we still need to knock out DOMA to get them recognized in every state. Someday maybe. We can hope. |
Response to cate94 (Reply #58)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:49 PM
74. CA recognizes ALL civil unions AND marriages.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:18 PM
maddezmom (130,849 posts)
41. Excellent news
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:19 PM
wryter2000 (33,503 posts)
43. Yeehah!
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Our rector has been dying to marry a gay or lesbian couple. He's going to start bugging the former church secretary. Poor Theresa and Laura. He'll be on their case like nobody's business.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:23 PM
truebrit71 (16,912 posts)
46. That is AWESOME!!!!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:23 PM
rocktivity (36,630 posts)
47. CUE THE VONAGE THEME!
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It's may be narrow and limited, but it's a step in the right direction!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:25 PM
MineralMan (54,033 posts)
48. Link to the PDF of the ruling:
Response to MineralMan (Reply #48)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:33 PM
Maven (7,760 posts)
51. Alternate link to the ruling at the LATimes:
Response to Maven (Reply #51)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
MineralMan (54,033 posts)
56. Cool! Their server will be able to handle it.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:30 PM
closeupready (19,487 posts)
49. Excellent! K&R
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:32 PM
50. Hetero marriages inexplicably fail to collapse in flames n/t
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:34 PM
rhett o rick (26,752 posts)
52. Wonderful news. Will this be appealed higher? nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #52)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:43 PM
Brother Buzz (8,381 posts)
71. And risk losing a big fat national wedge issue?
Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #71)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:51 PM
rhett o rick (26,752 posts)
75. Great point. And we dont want it to go higher with this SCOTUS. Once they rule it is very hard to
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #75)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:57 PM
77. I tremble to think what this court would do with such a case
Response to primavera (Reply #77)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 04:08 PM
rhett o rick (26,752 posts)
87. And include overruling Roe v Wade to boot. nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #75)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:19 PM
89. It probably will go to the Supreme Court, but that might be a good thing
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #89)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:22 PM
rhett o rick (26,752 posts)
91. How would they make the decision to hear the case if it goes that far? nm
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #91)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:35 PM
99. Four judges would have to agree that they want to hear the case
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #99)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:22 PM
rhett o rick (26,752 posts)
100. The consequences of losing is too great for the risk in my opinion when the possibility
Response to rhett o rick (Reply #100)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:02 AM
104. Well it is really not our choice whether or not we take the risk
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #104)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:07 AM
rhett o rick (26,752 posts)
105. I understand completely. I meant that with the risk, I hope it doesnt go at this time. nm
Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #99)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:22 AM
jeff47 (7,453 posts)
112. It would not legalize same-sex marriage in all 50 states
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:35 PM
DesertRat (9,281 posts)
53. Awesome! n/t
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:37 PM
CaliforniaPeggy (104,005 posts)
54. Love cannot be stopped! This is great news.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:39 PM
frazzled (9,142 posts)
55. High fives to the 9th Circuit.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
suffragette (7,401 posts)
57. Very good news, indeed!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 01:53 PM
felix_numinous (3,248 posts)
60. Great news
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Spazito (26,463 posts)
62. In reading the decision, the Court makes their reasoning crystal clear...
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:11 PM
barbtries (15,012 posts)
63. of course it's unconstitutional!
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but it feels damn good to have a court acknowledge it.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
65. Great, great news. It feels like the tide is turning on this.... nt
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:15 PM
grantcart (38,759 posts)
66. Just in times for Valentines Day
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
Lost-in-FL (7,066 posts)
67. Great news, for a change! nt
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:28 PM
dhill926 (1,830 posts)
69. big ole K & R........
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:35 PM
msanthrope (16,505 posts)
70. Excellent. nt
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:47 PM
hunter (16,155 posts)
73. My rainbow flag is still flying...
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 02:56 PM
cal04 (36,988 posts)
76. Fantastic News!!!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:11 PM
79. Links to full text of appeals court ruling
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:12 PM
William769 (30,458 posts)
80. ABOUT FUCKING TIME!
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:24 PM
happyslug (10,771 posts)
81. Here is the actual Court Opinion
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:24 PM
Liberal_Stalwart71 (13,853 posts)
82. YAYY!!!! +1!!! K&R!!!!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:26 PM
83. <Insert random applause gif here>
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:45 PM
sabrina 1 (34,090 posts)
84. Great news. Thank you.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:55 PM
Surya Gayatri (4,205 posts)
85. Congrats to our LGBT brothers and sisters...
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Judicious outcome to a hard-fought battle.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 05:09 PM
swimboy (7,044 posts)
88. And the justices quoted Groucho Marx and Frank Sinatra in their decision
Response to swimboy (Reply #88)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:59 AM
mikeytherat (6,823 posts)
107. That was all kinds of awesome!
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:56 PM
Politicub (5,861 posts)
90. Yahooooo! Great news!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:26 PM
Fearless (12,399 posts)
92. I'm afraid to see how the SJC takes it...
Response to Fearless (Reply #92)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:05 AM
morningfog (4,188 posts)
110. Kennedy was the deciding vote in Romer v. Evans, and wrote the opinion, I believe.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:56 PM
awoke_in_2003 (18,512 posts)
93. A big K&R....
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:04 PM
94. The dissenting judge should be ashamed imo.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:24 PM
96. I is smiling from ear to ear - one step closer for true equality for ALL Americans.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:53 PM
Great Caesars Ghost (532 posts)
98. I will be cautious on this one.
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Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:15 AM
SHRED (10,123 posts)
106. The legal marriage occurs in the Courthouse...
Response to SHRED (Reply #106)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 09:01 AM
mikeytherat (6,823 posts)
108. A point I make all the time!
Response to SHRED (Reply #106)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:27 AM
jeff47 (7,453 posts)
113. That actually mirrors what happens with opposite-sex couples
Response to SHRED (Reply #106)
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:33 AM
114. Exactly. If I hear "marriage is a religious term" one more time,
