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Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:12 PM

Boston Bomb Suspect's Dad Tells Him to Surrender, Warns' Hell Will Break Loose' if Son Dies

Source: abcnews

The father said he spoke to his sons by phone earlier this week. "We talked about the bombing. I was worried about them," Anzor Tsarnaev said.

He said his sons reassured him, saying,
"Everything is good, Daddy. Everything is very good. "

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"If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame," the father told ABC News. "Someone,
some organization is out to get them."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18995936

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Reply Boston Bomb Suspect's Dad Tells Him to Surrender, Warns' Hell Will Break Loose' if Son Dies (Original post)
jakeXT Apr 2013 OP
calimary Apr 2013 #1
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #3
Veilex Apr 2013 #6
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #8
Veilex Apr 2013 #12
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #13
davidpdx Apr 2013 #51
freshwest Apr 2013 #25
davidpdx Apr 2013 #52
freshwest Apr 2013 #56
caseymoz Apr 2013 #4
freshwest Apr 2013 #27
Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #36
davidpdx Apr 2013 #53
Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #54
davidpdx Apr 2013 #55
tblue Apr 2013 #34
kardonb Apr 2013 #39
lexw Apr 2013 #2
Skittles Apr 2013 #22
defacto7 Apr 2013 #5
jakeXT Apr 2013 #9
defacto7 Apr 2013 #14
freshwest Apr 2013 #30
ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #23
Sunlei Apr 2013 #7
socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #10
leftynyc Apr 2013 #16
socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #21
jakeXT Apr 2013 #17
humbled_opinion Apr 2013 #11
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #33
Bonduel Apr 2013 #38
Iggo Apr 2013 #15
Mz Pip Apr 2013 #20
RobinA Apr 2013 #24
kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #18
LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #29
MoonchildCA Apr 2013 #19
freshwest Apr 2013 #32
Rex Apr 2013 #26
BainsBane Apr 2013 #47
snot Apr 2013 #28
Rex Apr 2013 #31
KamaAina Apr 2013 #45
BainsBane Apr 2013 #48
snot Apr 2013 #49
WestCoastLib Apr 2013 #35
snot Apr 2013 #50
Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #37
TooRaLoo Apr 2013 #44
vkkv Apr 2013 #40
John2 Apr 2013 #41
Sunlei Apr 2013 #42
Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #43
John2 Apr 2013 #46

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:14 PM

1. What the hell is that supposed to mean?

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Response to calimary (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:18 PM

3. Either he loves his sons or he's an Alex Jones variety of freeper / T (which is most of them). nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:34 PM

6. Either way,

the suspects are entitled to their day in court where all the evidence can be weighed and examined. Until a verdict has been determined, they are only suspects. The father is understandably worried about lynch mobs or vigilantism.

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Response to Veilex (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:37 PM

8. Sure, day in court and all, but I bet on denial. nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:44 PM

12. Without a doubt. Guilty or innocent, its almost a guarantee...

and thats where evidence and witnesses come into play to try to determine truth. Hopefully there is enough to do just that, and we can end with the proper result.

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Response to Veilex (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:46 PM

13. Yes, properly done, a solid conviction helps people in denial come out of denial.

Unless they are Ts / freepers of the Alex Jones variety.

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Response to Veilex (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:57 AM

51. I agree, but the family of the accused aren't entitled to free airtime to plead their children's

innocence days after the bombing, which is what IS happening. RT has done an interview with their mother letting her spread the conspiracy theory story tainting the process. The victims are entitled to justice as well, some of which are still in the hospital. I find this despicable.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:36 PM

25. Alex Jones is on RT and is popular in Russia. They've been into a lot of CT.

Alex Jones has spoken kindly of Putin in the past, as well.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #25)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:59 AM

52. RT is already giving free airtime to the suspects family to spread their conspiracy theories

It is sick. They are a bunch of sick fucks.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #52)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:46 PM

56. We have plenty of true believers here, as well. It's constant messaging.

When faced with an inexplicable act or mystery, fear and distrust, people want to fill in the blanks out of anxiety. Jones, Beck and the rest are paid to do it for them. It's just a commercial product being sold, but one that destroys democracy no matter how many times they talk about individual rights. But only the libertarian ones which aren't liberal or progressive as Democratic ideas of equality and balancing the field. For them, those are dead concepts.

You never hear professional CT shills bemoaning failures of the social safety net, except as a way to agitate the people they call 'statists, government dependents and Obamabots.' They want all of that gone along with military, police, firemen, research and the medical infrastructure. Their daily and detailed characterizations of them are frighteningly negative.

That's the goal of libertarianism as they preach it. They love to poke and terrify those they call 'statists' and anti-civil liberty with sharp sticks about social safety net issues they don't see as worth while as they don't believe in rule by law to stop discrimination, but only of contract law. Their world view is tribalism and social darwinism they define for liberals and progressives as being concerned for individuals and future generations.

They will never stop since it pays well and they want to be 'free' by having a lot of assets. Too bad about the gold thing...

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Response to calimary (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:23 PM

4. He's come unhinged.


Understandable. He'll either snap out of it or he won't.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:37 PM

27. Also suffering brain cancer. Went to Russia and Germany for treatment per live television link.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:26 PM

36. Kind of understandable

What if one of us found at that our children were involved in such an awful crime?

Denial would be a natural reaction. As for blaming the police for the death of one son and the possible death of another - those who strap explosives to their bodies do not expect to be taken alive.

I wonder what the parents of the MIT cop are thinking? The guys told the carjack victim that they were the bombers. There isn't doubt left here. On the chase they threw another pressure cooker bomb.

But to close family? Parents? It would be hard to accept. It's natural to think "This can't be true."

If they had just fled, one could reasonably have some doubt, even if not a lot. Under these circumstances, no doubt is possible and it is very unlikely that the 19 year-old will be taken alive.

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Response to Yo_Mama (Reply #36)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:03 AM

53. Denial and defensiveness are to be expected

Why they are getting airtime on television to spread conspiracy theories is beyond me.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #53)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:52 AM

54. I hadn't thought of that angle

I think the news reporters are all just running with whatever they can dig up.

To them, probably the more sensational the better. They aren't always responsible or adult about these things.

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Response to Yo_Mama (Reply #54)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 10:06 AM

55. True

Maybe we should tape a diaper over the news reporters head.

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Response to calimary (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:00 PM

34. It already did.

This man is desperate. I can understand his fear and anger. It won't make a difference though.

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Response to calimary (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:51 PM

39. mean?

it means the usual : itS ALWAYS somebody else's fault ; THEY made you do it ; it was a set -up ; "someone had it in for you etc etc etc .....

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:15 PM

2. The family is still in denial.

The aunt was just on CNN saying the photographs the FBI released were staged.

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Response to lexw (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:08 PM

22. there's denial and then there is delusion

these folk sound as unhinged as the brothers

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:26 PM

5. Well, I guess we know where the

social and psychological instability comes from.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:37 PM

9. A bit of his cached twitter

'Stay Safe People': Here Is The Fugitive Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect's Twitter Account
http://m.gawker.com/5995065

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:46 PM

14. Yeah, saw it.

Very sociopathic. Too much of that disease going around.

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:41 PM

30. Doesn't sound like a hate group to me.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:15 PM

23. If one of my kids were being held for the Boston bombing,

I might become psychologically instable too. I would be extremely upset.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:36 PM

7. The father lives in Makhachkala, the USA Uncle said he hasn't spoken to his brother in years.

The older bomber traveled to Russia for 6 months. back 7/17/2012 and youtube account with radical terrorist youtubes, facebook account in russian with radical postings) There are some very hard ass terrorist groups in parts of Russia. After the trip the Uncle said the attitude of the brothers changed, they seemed radicalized? The usa Uncle is the person who has been on the news calling for the brother to give himself up.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:39 PM

10. If the father talked to them about the bombing isn't he part of the conspiracy.

He withheld information about about a bombing where people were killed.

Can't he be arrested for that?

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Response to socialindependocrat (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:51 PM

16. My understanding is

they discussed the bombing after Monday in terms of the sons were living in the city it happened in and their father wanted to make sure they were alright.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:00 PM

21. Now I understand - Thks (both above /\ and below \/) n/t

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:43 PM

11. The rightwings at my job are already..

claiming Muslim inspired attack, both suspects are Obama supporters... where do they get this crap...

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Response to humbled_opinion (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:59 PM

33. They make it up. They hang their hat on the slimmest pretext. They pre-judge = bigotry. nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #33)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:52 PM

38. Some on here were pre-judging as well

 

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:50 PM

15. "Someone, some organization is out to get them."

Yeah, that happens a lot with baby-killers.

Crazy, right?


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Response to Iggo (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:00 PM

20. Lots of organizations at this point

What does he expect? This wasn't some harmless prank or peaceful form of civil disobedience.

Pull off an attack like this and you have to expect the full force of law enforcement on your asses.

All hell will break lose? Is that a threat?

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Response to Mz Pip (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:31 PM

24. Not Only The Bombing

but that craziness last night.

All hell already done broke lose.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:57 PM

18. More denialism from a crazy Russian, just like the aunt.

I deal with Russians almost daily. There seems to be a special streak of crazy in many of them, and yelling/screaming/shouting is often their preferred means of communication.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:40 PM

29. Hyper-emotional people

My mother was half-Russian. I speak from experience.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:58 PM

19. I am more than certain...

...that the FBI would like more than anything to capture this guy alive.

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Response to MoonchildCA (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:43 PM

32. I really want that. Because if not, the CT *and* the warmongers will love it.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:36 PM

26. So the father thinks the Boston PD are suspects in the bombing?

Or that some group is out to get the Boston PD? I don't understand what he is saying.

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Response to Rex (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:31 PM

47. The US govt, I suppose

Like they think 9/11 was.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:38 PM

28. Sorry I haven't had time to follow this story; please help me out re- this question:

Can anyone point me to the proof that these suspects are guilty?

Thanks.

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Response to snot (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:42 PM

31. They shot an officer at MIT campus and killed him.

Even if they are not suspects in the bombing, they are now suspects in a capital murder case.

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Response to Rex (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:44 PM

45. No, they're not

Massachusetts is a civilized state. It doesn't have the death penalty.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:32 PM

48. He will be prosecuted federally

And there s a federal death penalty.

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Response to Rex (Reply #31)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:09 AM

49. Thanks . . . but

allegations of multiple suspicions is what got us into Iraq.

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Response to snot (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:17 PM

35. Pictures, Witnesses and response

Pictures place them there with bags that meet the description & leaving without bags.
Eye Witness victim IDed him placing the bag on the ground (witness lost both legs)
They car-jacked someone (didn't kill him) and told that person that they were the bombers.
They killed a cop, had many guns on them and threw grenades at the cops.
The older one that was killed had explosives on him when recovered.

and many other things I'm sure we don't know.

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Response to WestCoastLib (Reply #35)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:10 AM

50. Ok, that's very helpful. Hadn't heard any of that reported by a reliable source . . .

if you happen to have any handy, that would be appreciated.

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Response to snot (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:33 PM

37. Here it is

Yahoo account for the oldest has various radical Islamic stuff.

Last night alone:
A) Shot MIT cop dead.
B) Hijacked SUV, with guy in it. Told him they did the Boston bombings.
C) Took him around to ATMs to get money.
D) Guy escaped or was jettisoned, and reported perps statements to the cops.
E) Cops headed them off in carjacked car. During the ensuing firefight, a pressure cooker bomb and other munitions were thrown from the vehicle.
F) Reported to be wearing explosive vests. Hospital reports dead guy (older brother) had multiple gunshot wounds and what looked like blast damage.

By the time you've said you did it and used the same type of bomb against LE, all doubt is gone.

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Response to snot (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:42 PM

44. video of one of them setting a backpack w/bomb down.

clearly the same backpack as photographed after bomb went off in it.

edit: and walking away from it, minutes before it went off. that was the 2nd bomb.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:16 PM

40. The friggin' idiots don't fall far from the Idiot Family Tree.

The friggin' idiots don't fall far from the Idiot Family Tree.

Oh I forgot...

Have a nice day.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:34 PM

41. People have

 

been trying to tie these two kids to a Terrorist organization and some reports even went further to claim they might have some military background. That boston policeman sure sounded convincing that was the case. He is inside the investigation and I'm not. So you have to take his word for it.

One thing is clear though, both are from Chechnya, which has a very small population and had problems with Russian authority. Another thing is clear, they were given asylum in the U.S. The youngest kid became a citizen and went to school here. I wonder where the evidence or links came from they were sent here to kill people? Another thing is clear, they found some Al Qa eda information on the older kid's computer. How do they know he wasn't using that information to fake a Terrorists attack as some diversion. If that was the case, it seems to have work, because it sounds like 9\11 all over again. Have the police found any connection to Terrorists groups or a country yet? It would be very valuable if they take this kid alive instead of killing him on site.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:37 PM

42. That was a very well done ABC interview of the father in Russia

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:37 PM

43. holy shit.

 

this is the price of paranoia folks.

right now i'm grateful this site has a policy against conspiracy theories. can you imagine the flood of nonsense going on out there in the rest of the interwebz?

these kids didn't grow up that different from a lot of other kids in the U.S.. with paranoid nuts for parents who feed them a daily dose of some version of alex jones. i have to debunk stuff my own kid says his friends say all the time.. and yeh it's the parents feeding them that nonsense and telling them which crackpot website to look up.

this is getting systemic. we need to lower the tolerance level for crackpot wingnuttery in everyday society.

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Response to jakeXT (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:51 PM

46. I hope he survives and we can find out a motive.

 

And if he does, I think he should be tried in Court because he is a U.S. citizen.

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