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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:12 PM Apr 2013

Boston Bomb Suspect's Dad Tells Him to Surrender, Warns' Hell Will Break Loose' if Son Dies

Source: abcnews

The father said he spoke to his sons by phone earlier this week. "We talked about the bombing. I was worried about them," Anzor Tsarnaev said.

He said his sons reassured him, saying,
"Everything is good, Daddy. Everything is very good. "

...
"If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame," the father told ABC News. "Someone,
some organization is out to get them."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=18995936

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Boston Bomb Suspect's Dad Tells Him to Surrender, Warns' Hell Will Break Loose' if Son Dies (Original Post) jakeXT Apr 2013 OP
What the hell is that supposed to mean? calimary Apr 2013 #1
Either he loves his sons or he's an Alex Jones variety of freeper / T (which is most of them). nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #3
Either way, Veilex Apr 2013 #6
Sure, day in court and all, but I bet on denial. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #8
Without a doubt. Guilty or innocent, its almost a guarantee... Veilex Apr 2013 #12
Yes, properly done, a solid conviction helps people in denial come out of denial. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #13
I agree, but the family of the accused aren't entitled to free airtime to plead their children's davidpdx Apr 2013 #51
Alex Jones is on RT and is popular in Russia. They've been into a lot of CT. freshwest Apr 2013 #25
RT is already giving free airtime to the suspects family to spread their conspiracy theories davidpdx Apr 2013 #52
We have plenty of true believers here, as well. It's constant messaging. freshwest Apr 2013 #56
He's come unhinged. caseymoz Apr 2013 #4
Also suffering brain cancer. Went to Russia and Germany for treatment per live television link. freshwest Apr 2013 #27
Kind of understandable Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #36
Denial and defensiveness are to be expected davidpdx Apr 2013 #53
I hadn't thought of that angle Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #54
True davidpdx Apr 2013 #55
It already did. tblue Apr 2013 #34
mean? kardonb Apr 2013 #39
The family is still in denial. lexw Apr 2013 #2
there's denial and then there is delusion Skittles Apr 2013 #22
Well, I guess we know where the defacto7 Apr 2013 #5
A bit of his cached twitter jakeXT Apr 2013 #9
Yeah, saw it. defacto7 Apr 2013 #14
Doesn't sound like a hate group to me. freshwest Apr 2013 #30
If one of my kids were being held for the Boston bombing, ZombieHorde Apr 2013 #23
The father lives in Makhachkala, the USA Uncle said he hasn't spoken to his brother in years. Sunlei Apr 2013 #7
If the father talked to them about the bombing isn't he part of the conspiracy. socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #10
My understanding is leftynyc Apr 2013 #16
Now I understand - Thks (both above /\ and below \/) n/t socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #21
We had different suspects and even pictures, remember? jakeXT Apr 2013 #17
The rightwings at my job are already.. humbled_opinion Apr 2013 #11
They make it up. They hang their hat on the slimmest pretext. They pre-judge = bigotry. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #33
Some on here were pre-judging as well Bonduel Apr 2013 #38
"Someone, some organization is out to get them." Iggo Apr 2013 #15
Lots of organizations at this point Mz Pip Apr 2013 #20
Not Only The Bombing RobinA Apr 2013 #24
More denialism from a crazy Russian, just like the aunt. kestrel91316 Apr 2013 #18
Hyper-emotional people LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #29
I am more than certain... MoonchildCA Apr 2013 #19
I really want that. Because if not, the CT *and* the warmongers will love it. freshwest Apr 2013 #32
So the father thinks the Boston PD are suspects in the bombing? Rex Apr 2013 #26
The US govt, I suppose BainsBane Apr 2013 #47
Sorry I haven't had time to follow this story; please help me out re- this question: snot Apr 2013 #28
They shot an officer at MIT campus and killed him. Rex Apr 2013 #31
No, they're not KamaAina Apr 2013 #45
He will be prosecuted federally BainsBane Apr 2013 #48
Thanks . . . but snot Apr 2013 #49
Pictures, Witnesses and response WestCoastLib Apr 2013 #35
Ok, that's very helpful. Hadn't heard any of that reported by a reliable source . . . snot Apr 2013 #50
Here it is Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #37
video of one of them setting a backpack w/bomb down. TooRaLoo Apr 2013 #44
The friggin' idiots don't fall far from the Idiot Family Tree. vkkv Apr 2013 #40
People have John2 Apr 2013 #41
That was a very well done ABC interview of the father in Russia Sunlei Apr 2013 #42
holy shit. Phillip McCleod Apr 2013 #43
I hope he survives and we can find out a motive. John2 Apr 2013 #46
 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
6. Either way,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:34 PM
Apr 2013

the suspects are entitled to their day in court where all the evidence can be weighed and examined. Until a verdict has been determined, they are only suspects. The father is understandably worried about lynch mobs or vigilantism.

 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
12. Without a doubt. Guilty or innocent, its almost a guarantee...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:44 PM
Apr 2013

and thats where evidence and witnesses come into play to try to determine truth. Hopefully there is enough to do just that, and we can end with the proper result.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
13. Yes, properly done, a solid conviction helps people in denial come out of denial.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:46 PM
Apr 2013

Unless they are Ts / freepers of the Alex Jones variety.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
51. I agree, but the family of the accused aren't entitled to free airtime to plead their children's
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:57 AM
Apr 2013

innocence days after the bombing, which is what IS happening. RT has done an interview with their mother letting her spread the conspiracy theory story tainting the process. The victims are entitled to justice as well, some of which are still in the hospital. I find this despicable.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. Alex Jones is on RT and is popular in Russia. They've been into a lot of CT.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:36 PM
Apr 2013
Alex Jones has spoken kindly of Putin in the past, as well.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
52. RT is already giving free airtime to the suspects family to spread their conspiracy theories
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 07:59 AM
Apr 2013

It is sick. They are a bunch of sick fucks.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
56. We have plenty of true believers here, as well. It's constant messaging.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 01:46 PM
Apr 2013

When faced with an inexplicable act or mystery, fear and distrust, people want to fill in the blanks out of anxiety. Jones, Beck and the rest are paid to do it for them. It's just a commercial product being sold, but one that destroys democracy no matter how many times they talk about individual rights. But only the libertarian ones which aren't liberal or progressive as Democratic ideas of equality and balancing the field. For them, those are dead concepts.

You never hear professional CT shills bemoaning failures of the social safety net, except as a way to agitate the people they call 'statists, government dependents and Obamabots.' They want all of that gone along with military, police, firemen, research and the medical infrastructure. Their daily and detailed characterizations of them are frighteningly negative.

That's the goal of libertarianism as they preach it. They love to poke and terrify those they call 'statists' and anti-civil liberty with sharp sticks about social safety net issues they don't see as worth while as they don't believe in rule by law to stop discrimination, but only of contract law. Their world view is tribalism and social darwinism they define for liberals and progressives as being concerned for individuals and future generations.

They will never stop since it pays well and they want to be 'free' by having a lot of assets. Too bad about the gold thing...

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
36. Kind of understandable
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:26 PM
Apr 2013

What if one of us found at that our children were involved in such an awful crime?

Denial would be a natural reaction. As for blaming the police for the death of one son and the possible death of another - those who strap explosives to their bodies do not expect to be taken alive.

I wonder what the parents of the MIT cop are thinking? The guys told the carjack victim that they were the bombers. There isn't doubt left here. On the chase they threw another pressure cooker bomb.

But to close family? Parents? It would be hard to accept. It's natural to think "This can't be true."

If they had just fled, one could reasonably have some doubt, even if not a lot. Under these circumstances, no doubt is possible and it is very unlikely that the 19 year-old will be taken alive.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
53. Denial and defensiveness are to be expected
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:03 AM
Apr 2013

Why they are getting airtime on television to spread conspiracy theories is beyond me.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
54. I hadn't thought of that angle
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:52 AM
Apr 2013

I think the news reporters are all just running with whatever they can dig up.

To them, probably the more sensational the better. They aren't always responsible or adult about these things.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
34. It already did.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:00 PM
Apr 2013

This man is desperate. I can understand his fear and anger. It won't make a difference though.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
39. mean?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:51 PM
Apr 2013

it means the usual : itS ALWAYS somebody else's fault ; THEY made you do it ; it was a set -up ; "someone had it in for you etc etc etc .....

lexw

(804 posts)
2. The family is still in denial.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:15 PM
Apr 2013

The aunt was just on CNN saying the photographs the FBI released were staged.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
9. A bit of his cached twitter
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:37 PM
Apr 2013

'Stay Safe People': Here Is The Fugitive Boston Marathon Bombing Suspect's Twitter Account
http://m.gawker.com/5995065

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
23. If one of my kids were being held for the Boston bombing,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:15 PM
Apr 2013

I might become psychologically instable too. I would be extremely upset.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. The father lives in Makhachkala, the USA Uncle said he hasn't spoken to his brother in years.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:36 PM
Apr 2013

The older bomber traveled to Russia for 6 months. back 7/17/2012 and youtube account with radical terrorist youtubes, facebook account in russian with radical postings) There are some very hard ass terrorist groups in parts of Russia. After the trip the Uncle said the attitude of the brothers changed, they seemed radicalized? The usa Uncle is the person who has been on the news calling for the brother to give himself up.

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
10. If the father talked to them about the bombing isn't he part of the conspiracy.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:39 PM
Apr 2013

He withheld information about about a bombing where people were killed.

Can't he be arrested for that?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. My understanding is
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:51 PM
Apr 2013

they discussed the bombing after Monday in terms of the sons were living in the city it happened in and their father wanted to make sure they were alright.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
11. The rightwings at my job are already..
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:43 PM
Apr 2013

claiming Muslim inspired attack, both suspects are Obama supporters... where do they get this crap...

Iggo

(47,547 posts)
15. "Someone, some organization is out to get them."
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:50 PM
Apr 2013

Yeah, that happens a lot with baby-killers.

Crazy, right?


Mz Pip

(27,434 posts)
20. Lots of organizations at this point
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:00 PM
Apr 2013

What does he expect? This wasn't some harmless prank or peaceful form of civil disobedience.

Pull off an attack like this and you have to expect the full force of law enforcement on your asses.

All hell will break lose? Is that a threat?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
18. More denialism from a crazy Russian, just like the aunt.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:57 PM
Apr 2013

I deal with Russians almost daily. There seems to be a special streak of crazy in many of them, and yelling/screaming/shouting is often their preferred means of communication.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
26. So the father thinks the Boston PD are suspects in the bombing?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:36 PM
Apr 2013

Or that some group is out to get the Boston PD? I don't understand what he is saying.

snot

(10,520 posts)
28. Sorry I haven't had time to follow this story; please help me out re- this question:
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Apr 2013

Can anyone point me to the proof that these suspects are guilty?

Thanks.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
31. They shot an officer at MIT campus and killed him.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:42 PM
Apr 2013

Even if they are not suspects in the bombing, they are now suspects in a capital murder case.

WestCoastLib

(442 posts)
35. Pictures, Witnesses and response
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:17 PM
Apr 2013

Pictures place them there with bags that meet the description & leaving without bags.
Eye Witness victim IDed him placing the bag on the ground (witness lost both legs)
They car-jacked someone (didn't kill him) and told that person that they were the bombers.
They killed a cop, had many guns on them and threw grenades at the cops.
The older one that was killed had explosives on him when recovered.

and many other things I'm sure we don't know.

snot

(10,520 posts)
50. Ok, that's very helpful. Hadn't heard any of that reported by a reliable source . . .
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 04:10 AM
Apr 2013

if you happen to have any handy, that would be appreciated.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
37. Here it is
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:33 PM
Apr 2013

Yahoo account for the oldest has various radical Islamic stuff.

Last night alone:
A) Shot MIT cop dead.
B) Hijacked SUV, with guy in it. Told him they did the Boston bombings.
C) Took him around to ATMs to get money.
D) Guy escaped or was jettisoned, and reported perps statements to the cops.
E) Cops headed them off in carjacked car. During the ensuing firefight, a pressure cooker bomb and other munitions were thrown from the vehicle.
F) Reported to be wearing explosive vests. Hospital reports dead guy (older brother) had multiple gunshot wounds and what looked like blast damage.

By the time you've said you did it and used the same type of bomb against LE, all doubt is gone.

TooRaLoo

(1,238 posts)
44. video of one of them setting a backpack w/bomb down.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:42 PM
Apr 2013

clearly the same backpack as photographed after bomb went off in it.

edit: and walking away from it, minutes before it went off. that was the 2nd bomb.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
40. The friggin' idiots don't fall far from the Idiot Family Tree.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:16 PM
Apr 2013

The friggin' idiots don't fall far from the Idiot Family Tree.

Oh I forgot...

Have a nice day.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
41. People have
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:34 PM
Apr 2013

been trying to tie these two kids to a Terrorist organization and some reports even went further to claim they might have some military background. That boston policeman sure sounded convincing that was the case. He is inside the investigation and I'm not. So you have to take his word for it.

One thing is clear though, both are from Chechnya, which has a very small population and had problems with Russian authority. Another thing is clear, they were given asylum in the U.S. The youngest kid became a citizen and went to school here. I wonder where the evidence or links came from they were sent here to kill people? Another thing is clear, they found some Al Qa eda information on the older kid's computer. How do they know he wasn't using that information to fake a Terrorists attack as some diversion. If that was the case, it seems to have work, because it sounds like 9\11 all over again. Have the police found any connection to Terrorists groups or a country yet? It would be very valuable if they take this kid alive instead of killing him on site.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
43. holy shit.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:37 PM
Apr 2013

this is the price of paranoia folks.

right now i'm grateful this site has a policy against conspiracy theories. can you imagine the flood of nonsense going on out there in the rest of the interwebz?

these kids didn't grow up that different from a lot of other kids in the U.S.. with paranoid nuts for parents who feed them a daily dose of some version of alex jones. i have to debunk stuff my own kid says his friends say all the time.. and yeh it's the parents feeding them that nonsense and telling them which crackpot website to look up.

this is getting systemic. we need to lower the tolerance level for crackpot wingnuttery in everyday society.

 

John2

(2,730 posts)
46. I hope he survives and we can find out a motive.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:51 PM
Apr 2013

And if he does, I think he should be tried in Court because he is a U.S. citizen.

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