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Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:29 AM

Search for marathon bombing suspect locks down Watertown, surrounding communities

Last edited Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:11 PM - Edit history (7)

Source: Boston Globe

Heavily armed tactical police are searching a 20-block area of this community for one of the suspects in the deadly Boston Marathon terror bomb attacks, a State Police spokesman said.

The search comes after a chaotic, violent night in which a second suspect died in a firefight with police, and one police officer was killed and another was seriously wounded.

Local, state, and federal law enforcement officers, including the Secret Service, are searching. K-9 teams, explosives experts, and SWAT officers are involved, said State Police spokesman David Procopio.

Authorities cannot rule out the possibility that the suspect is wearing an explosive vest, Procopio said.

Read more: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/mit-police-officer-hit-gunfire-cambridge-police-dispatcher-says/4UeCClOVeLr8PHLvDa99zK/story.html



Story has expanded since original posting.



Edit to add link to WBZ Newsradio stream: http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/WBZAM.pls

WBZ-TV LIVE VIDEO: http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/

WBZ radio is now simulcasting WBZ television ongoing coverage of the MIT incident and now arrests.

(Update) WBUR public radio at 3:22am ET:

Dave Procopio, State Police spokesman, offered these updates to WBUR’s Fred Bever: "One suspect is “accounted for,” and another is not accounted for, and one transit officer was seriously wounded in the event.


Also at 3:03 am ET: "WCVB reports @massstatepolice see "strong link" to MIT murder, possible connection to Marathon bombings."

4 am: Boston police chief tweets: "One suspect dead. One at large. Armed and dangerous. White hat suspect at large." So the man in the black hat is no longer living, presumably due to the firefight.

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alp227 Apr 2013 OP
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avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #3
Voice for Peace Apr 2013 #137
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TeamPooka Apr 2013 #4
AgingAmerican Apr 2013 #142
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Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #6
elleng Apr 2013 #8
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ForgoTheConsequence Apr 2013 #14
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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:31 AM

1. Have they confused the incidents? How do they know its a marathon guy?

 

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:35 AM

3. Ahh they checked the pics. They probably have a fairly complete profile on him already.

The Boston Globe does a solid job reporting, I trust they have this information correct.

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Response to dkf (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:00 AM

137. I got the impression the Watertown events happened in response to the

police pursuit of the two suspects.

I may have only imagined this --but it made sense to me.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:31 AM

2. Is this real

Or another John King special.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:38 AM

4. Notice how CNN is waiting to verify this report after the screw up the other day?

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:06 PM

142. Noticed this all day Thursday

All the cable news that I watched were hesitant to verify or jump the gun on anything.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:39 AM

5. They're looking for the second one; they seem to know where they're going...

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:40 AM

6. Live TV is saying these may not be the guys.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:45 AM

8. Live tv, local NBC I'm listening to,

has NOT said these are the guys, very careful to NOT make the connection.

One died in hospital, second being searched for in Watertown.

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:58 AM

21. Same feed I'm listening to. (And watching now and then)

They're saying the guy they had on the ground might have been some poor dude that was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #21)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:03 AM

26. Right, poor dude.

OK,
http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive just said the Watertown guy being searched for and dead one at beth israel ARE Marathon bombers!

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Response to elleng (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:18 AM

35. Saw that.

Terrible time to get a sandwich.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #35)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:22 AM

38. Right, can't move! Fortunately I had my sandwich 1 hour ago!

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:51 AM

14. Police scanner says they're looking for white hat guy.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:41 AM

7. Kinda thought the MIT incident would be related...

it was too weird.

I saw the first breaking on the Globe site at 2:13 but it had no text. I'm guessing there will be a lot more shortly.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:48 AM

11. Holy crap.

From the NY Times link:
A police SUV “drove toward the shooters,” he said, and was shot at until it was severely damaged. It rolled out of control, Mr. Kitzenberg said, and crashed into two cars in his driveway.

The two shooters, he said, had a large and unwieldy bomb. “They lit it, still in the middle of the gunfire, and threw it. But it went 20 yards at most.” It exploded, he said, and one of the two men ran towards the gathered police officers. He was tackled, but it was not clear if he was shot, Mr. Kitzenberg said.

The explosions, said Loretta Kehayias, 65, another resident, “lit up the whole house. I screamed. I’ve never seen anything like this, never, never, never.”

Meanwhile, the other you man, said Mr. Kitzenberg, got back into the SUV, turned it toward officers and “put the pedal to the metal.” The car “went right through the cops, broke right through and continued west.”

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Response to drm604 (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM

139. Holy crap indeed ...

This friggin' thing played out like a Hollywood movie. I gotta say, these guys ... were not fucking around, man. Seems like they were out to cause as much death and destruction as they possibly could. How do people become this friggin' angry, I have to wonder?

They've been here 11 or 12 years, and one was only 19, so it's not like they grew up in madrasas or something. I wonder what drove them to decide to undertake this horrifying crime spree?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:48 AM

10. If it's the bombers, what would make these numbnutz stay in the same city days later?

Why didn't they leave the state? Or country?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:50 AM

12. Ugh why do you think?

Obviously they were't finished killing people. They knew this was coming.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:51 AM

15. Given their identities are being put on blast by the FBI now

they obviously are asking to get caught if they went to the airport or a toll booth.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:01 AM

23. Well, I mean, Monday night. They could have simply driven away.

Or boarded a plane. Why stick around?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:05 AM

29. I guess they were going for a crime wave like the 2002 Beltway snipers n/t

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:11 AM

33. I believe flights out were stopped by authorities that day to prevent that, and road blocks.

So they may not have had any chance to get away. The Governor had announced on Monday that Tuesday would not be business as usual and for people to expect routes to be closed while they went after suspects and investigated. This has gone quickly because they are very well-organized.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #23)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:26 AM

41. If they are Islamic Terrorist...

Then they may have wanted to go out as martyrs?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:21 AM

36. In the 1993 WTC bombing...

the creep who had rented the van which had the explosives reported it as having been stolen. He then went to the rental place a week later to get his deposit back! By that point, the FBI had the VIN, were alerted by the place and were there to take him into custody.

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Response to Princess Turandot (Reply #36)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:12 AM

132. did he get his deposit back?

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:48 AM

63. Maybe they're locals.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:54 AM

69. Maybe the authorities responded much faster than expected.

Or maybe they're just stupid. I suspect a combination of the two.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:51 AM

13. Sentences in article conflict with premise of headline:

"One suspect in Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings has been captured.''

"Authorities would not comment on whether the events were connected to Monday’s Boston Marathon bombings."

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Response to elleng (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:52 AM

16. The source for the opening sentence is

" an official with knowledge of the investigation" so there's only a conflict between authorities.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:54 AM

17. stating that they are not sure if they are.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:54 AM

18. Apparently a second man has been taken into custody....Short black hair

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:54 AM

19. WHDH is reporting the first suspect died; hard to know what to believe at this point.

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Response to JenniferJuniper (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:25 AM

40. If it is one of the bombers, I hope not. I want them put on trial.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:56 AM

20. YouTube video, apparently from a local resident.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:01 AM

24. Wow, it is amazing how fast people put stuff on the internet

That must have been scary for her. She sounded pretty calm.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:02 AM

25. Thanks, that's what people were talking about hearing earlier.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:59 AM

22. CNN is saying a second suspect is in custody

The first suspect was being photographed nude against a wall.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:15 AM

34. ARE U SERIOUS??? Or just trying to be funny?

 

I can't tell with CNN

Sorry, but that DOES make sense with guys with bombs

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #34)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:31 AM

47. Read this article & see why CNN has become the butt of jokes lately:

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Response to alp227 (Reply #47)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:40 AM

53. Yes, I'm well aware of that

Being in South Korea I don't have much of choice. BBC is covering it, but the only people they are interviewing are neighbors and using footage from other networks. They don't have anyone there.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #53)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:44 AM

58. i was also watching the BBC World Service online.

I did notice BBC WS TV was behind what Boston TV station WBZ was reporting. Thats what happens when you don't have a field reporter. However the BBC did have someone live in Texas reporting from where the fertilizer explosion happened. (on edit) also the BBC News online site says nothing right now about arrests just prominently shows the suspects photos in the homepage

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Response to alp227 (Reply #58)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:51 AM

67. It's possible they had someone in Boston and then had to pull them and move them to Texas

to cover the fire/explosion in Waco. Of course all this in happening in MA is the middle of the night as well, so getting someone there maybe difficult so late.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #53)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:50 AM

65. Do you get Al Jazeera English there?

If not, here's a link to their live stream: http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/

I'm in Indonesia and we only get AJE, BBC World and CNN International (plus finance TV like Bloomberg etc).

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Response to Turborama (Reply #65)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:54 AM

68. It's about the same here in Korea

We get Bloomberg and an Australian and Japanese news network. I'll have to try Aljazeera online if it isn't too busy.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:24 AM

39. You sure that wasn't the Huffington Post?

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #39)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:37 AM

51. No

I've been watching CNN for about an hour.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #51)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:40 AM

52. Why?

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #52)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:42 AM

55. I haven't been to the Huffington Post site today

I'm watching stuff on CNN and posting on DU.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #55)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:46 AM

62. Haven't you heard about CNN?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:03 AM

27. Sounds like one of the suspects was the missing student.

Sunil Tripathi

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:05 AM

28. Seriously? That possibility had actually crossed my mind.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:06 AM

30. From the scanner

Mike Mulugeta and Sunil Tripathi are the names.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:36 AM

50. Are those Indian Names?

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:41 AM

54. They sound Indian or Pakistani to me.

But I'm certainly no expert.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #54)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:53 AM

108. Just heard on local Boston news that the suspect that was shot and killed was from

Chechnya and had lived in Cambridge for about a year. The other one is supposedly from the same region as well.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:07 AM

31. Reddit speculated so as early as 8pm ET

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:08 AM

32. CNN just showed a shot of the guy getting into the car

I am almost sure it was suspect #1 (in the white hat) at the Boston bombing.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:22 AM

37. New pictures of the two suspects from the FBI:

White hat:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/image/Suspect2closeup

Black hat:




Don't know why the first pic won't show, but click the link. These are good pics, first guy may be smirking. Jeff Bauman said that he saw one of them look him in the face and leave his bag right in front of him. The guy was just looking at him and knew that he would be killed and walked off and then the bomb went off. He identified the faces shown him in the hospital. Most likely the bomber thought he'd killed him and there would be no witness. Then it turned out he lived and that must have put the wind up these guys.



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Response to freshwest (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:27 AM

42. Doesn't look like either of the two guys who shot up Watertown today, though.

There were definitely more than two perps, TBH.......

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:30 AM

46. Then our OP may be wrong. I've only seen a pic of 'dude' who was released there in Waterdown.

Police decided he wasn't who they wanted, had an alibi or something. Saw the pic of him on the other thread and he was sort of blond-haired. Not the same as these guys.

The FBI has released a lot of pix at this link. A lot of them:

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/photos


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Response to freshwest (Reply #46)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:35 AM

49. But the television station is still continuing to show pics of the bombers right now:

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

And they are now tying it to the events in Watertown. IDK!

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:12 AM

79. TV keeps saying it is them. Still looking for IEDs and SWAT on the scene. Robots scooping up IEDs.

Detonations of a larger bomb on Dexter Street announced soon.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:28 AM

43. Okay, FBI pic of both:

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Response to freshwest (Reply #43)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:44 AM

57. I've seen that one

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #32)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:28 AM

44. I can't even put on CNN anymore. It's completely unreliable.

My laptop was on the HuffPost homepage and I look over to blaring "Breaking - Chas in Watertown, MASS - Breaking"

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #44)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:45 AM

61. Yeah I only have CNN and BBC

in South Korea, not much of a choice. BBC doesn't have anyone there and is interviewing neighbors and using footage from other networks.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #61)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:58 AM

72. Sorry. Carry on!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:29 AM

45. If you look at the area

 

where this violence is occurring, it appears to be an upscale community, around MIT which is a private University. MIT is a very good science school also. I imagine many of the alumni have a scientific background. I bet the suspects weren't poor and they seem to be very smart at improvising. What I mean by that, they seem to have some knowledge of building crude weapons.

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Response to John2 (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:44 AM

60. The gun shots and explosions at 2 AM are in an area

 

about 3-4 miles removed from MIT campus.

The two bombing suspects may or may not have any official connection to MIT. MIT campus is in an urban area, only about a mile from the bomb site Monday in Boston, across the Charles River. The MIT campus is a relatively open campus to anyone who might walk into any of their buildings.

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Response to John2 (Reply #45)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:51 AM

66. MIT is in East Cambridge in a very mixed area student/blue collar/high end condo & commercial area

The second scene in the next community down the river --IMHO the suspects probably drove down Memorial drive--and again in a neighborhood with mixed apts, condos, single family, and commercial.

The area around MIT is most decidedly not upscale except for the new condos. Some parts of Watertown are quite nice and expensive but not the neighborhood where this action is taking place. It's nice enough but not upscale.

Where did you get the information that these suspects are from MIT?

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Response to Gormy Cuss (Reply #66)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:12 AM

78. Did I say they

 

were from MIT or might have some relations because of the area this violence is occuring in? I thought I said MIT is a private university and a very good science school. I'm also understanding the activity of violence began with a policeman being shot and killed at MIT. The speculation is no different than someone continuing to claim it is some Islamic Terrorist or Persian. It could well be home grown. It also appears these suspects have some resources and more knowledge than an ordinary American about making crude weapons. It suggests to me they have some scientific background they gained from somewhere. It is no more arm chair quarterbacking than some are during on this Board. In fact one expert said if it was home grown, they would be caught in 24 hours. They apparently got names and good leads from people who knew the suspects. note: well one policeman says he believes this to be a foreign terrorists. So that is now noted.

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Response to John2 (Reply #78)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:25 AM

85. You seemed to imply it

here:
MIT is a very good science school also. I imagine many of the alumni have a scientific background. I bet the suspects weren't poor and they seem to be very smart at improvising.


Otherwise, why mention alumni of MIT?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:42 AM

56. check out this weird wrinkle in the case

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:50 AM

64. That is bizarre!

 

I have no way of knowing how much to believe of any of this until the dust settles in a day or two.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:44 AM

59. According to scanner, perimeter established. Will wait for daylight

And do house by house search.

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Response to Lakerstan (Reply #59)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:10 AM

75. Live television says they will be detonating a bomb soon at an intersection in Watertown soon.

They say that someone from the FBI in DC is on their way there now. They keep harping on the idea that it's the two bombers. Also saying they are spotlighing a home on 'Dexter' where they think the suspect(s) may be:

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

They just said that suspect #1 is dead, that supect #2 with the white hat is still on the loose. Say he is armed with a rifle and leaving IEDs wherever he goes. They have cut off cell towers to stop detonations. This is tweet from the Boston police.

DA say investigating two men at MIT shooting officer, shot in his vehicle, then highjacked another vehicle in 3rd street, held victim in car and left off at Mobil station in Cambride. PD pursued, explosives thrown out of the care, gunfire at Dexter and Laura. Suspect #1 dead.

Bomb squad searching streets still.. It really does seem to be them, and they are telling the people to stay inside. They will do a controlled explosion on Dexter and robots are going down the street to pick up the IEDs, etc.

SWAT teams in area. They are continuing to talk...

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:56 AM

70. Get the bastards...

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:56 AM

71. Police now advising that a "controlled detonation" will take place: Watertown

 

Police are advising Watertown residents that a "controlled detonation" will be taking place in the area in question in Watertown in the areas of Dexter and Laurel streets.

It just goes on and on.

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #71)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:22 AM

84. Police now say, on camera, no controlled explosions are planned (nt)

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #84)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:27 AM

87. Yes, thanks, was about to update my post.

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:05 AM

73. Reddit thread on suspect at large and his background

including posts from friend who had put up his missing person's Facebook page. http://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/1cn9ga/is_missing_student_sunil_tripathi_marathon_bomber/

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Response to go west young man (Reply #73)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:08 AM

74. Can't access that site right now

 

won't load, probably too much traffic.

If you have it open, can you summarize it?

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #74)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:12 AM

77. You have to access in read only mode.

Due to heavy traffic. The thread essentially explains his disappearance right before St.Patty's. Speculation that St. Patty's was a failed run. His suicide note and his family's search for him.

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Response to go west young man (Reply #77)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:15 AM

81. Thanks.

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:13 AM

80. "A home on Dexter that police have lit up with spotlights."

Tweeted by:

John Atwater
@AtwaterWCVB

https://twitter.com/AtwaterWCVB







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Response to onestepforward (Reply #80)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:18 AM

82. I heard that on the live tv link. I hope no one is in there, except the suspect.

They carjacked someone but then they let them go and left, the news station said. They have left IEDs all over the place and the PD is going to detonate a large bomb soon, they say.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #82)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:27 AM

88. Me too.

I feel really bad for those residents in that neighborhood.

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Response to onestepforward (Reply #88)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:33 AM

90. The live news link is describing them as willing to anything at all, no matter how violent - well,

that was what they said earlier.

Now they claim one of the bombers is dead and the other one is at large. And still armed and dangerous.

Interesting that they held onto for a while, then let the owner of the car they stole go, letting them off at the gas station. After all, these guys didn't think twice (if the station is correct - and they are reading tweets from the Boston PD saying so) that these are the bombers.

It seems like they'd kill anyone. So the driver of the car had a lucky break. I just hope there isn't anyone held hostage in that house.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:21 AM

83. Live from the police: suspect #1 shot and has now died, #2 (was 'white cap') at large

now in a grey hooded sweatshirt - they have a 7-11 video still from earlier in the evening.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #83)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:29 AM

89. All that footage pays off.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:27 AM

86. Picture of "suspect 2" at 7/11 released.

Oh hell,...I'll host the picture on my photobucket account.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:34 AM

91. MIT website statement

 

MIT is heartbroken by the news that an MIT Police officer was shot and killed in the line of duty on Thursday night on campus, near Building 32 (the Stata Center). Our thoughts are now with the family.

At around 2 a.m., MIT Police determined that the suspect was no longer on campus, and that it is safe to resume normal activities. However, the MIT Police ask that members of the MIT Community remain vigilant in the coming hours.

MIT worked with multiple police departments in order to ensure the safety of the MIT campus. Police officers swept the campus in search of the shooter, and MIT sent text and email messages to the members of the MIT community asking them to stay indoors while the search continued.

We will provide fuller news of this tragedy in the coming hours.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:42 AM

92. Sunil Tripathi is 6' 2"? this guy doesn't look anywhere near that tall >>>

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:45 AM

93. Reddit users saying Suspect one died not from a gunshot

but an explosive devise that was strapped to his chest

Here is the exact quote: Suspect 1 died to explosive attached to chest! White Hat might have one as well.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #93)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:07 AM

94. I think that's a typo

Should be *with explosive device

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #93)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:08 AM

95. What I heard was "Suspect 1" lit and threw a bomb but not far enough....

He got caught in the blast. Wounded, he then rushed the cops who opened fire as the other guy got away.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #95)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:14 AM

96. sounds right.. all this is very confusing

Is the white hat guy Sunil? If not, I feel for his family.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #96)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:21 AM

97. He's "Suspect #2" until we hear otherwise.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #96)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:50 AM

99. No...LEO have said it's not. saying both are foreign nationals w/possibly military backgrounds

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #99)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:16 AM

100. Where did you here that??

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #100)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:17 AM

101. MSNBC

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #101)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:50 AM

105. BBC says AP says they may be Chechen

but, given that AP were saying someone was in custody over a day ago, that may not be worth much.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #105)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:53 AM

107. It's all over the news now. Suspect on the run is Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev

19 years old. Brother of the other (dead) suspect

permanent legal resident.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #107)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:08 AM

111. AP: reports the suspects are from a Russian region near Chechnya

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/surviving-boston-bombing-suspect-named-as-dzhokhar-a-tsarnaev-following-shootout-that-left-other-suspect-and-police-officer-dead-8579362.html
The missing suspect has been identified by the Associated Press as 19-year-old Dzhokhar A Tsarnaev from nearby Cambridge, Massachusetts. Both suspects are reportedly from a Russian region near Chechnya and have been living in the US for at least a year.

Tsarnaev appears to been educated at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School before receiving a scholarship to pursue higher education in 2011. His name appears on a list of 2011 recipients of the Cambridge City Scholarship.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 05:49 AM

98. MSNBC: all public transportation in Boston being shut down

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:33 AM

102. Well, We'll Find Out If

Well, we'll find out soon whether the captured suspect is an immigrant or an all-American Yankee-Doodle boy.

I am curious as to WHY these scuzz-balls set off those bombs.

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Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #102)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:49 AM

103. I know. If they are Chechen, what would be their motive?

Mika is saying they are brothers

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #103)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:54 AM

109. Chechens are mostly Muslim

and there may be link Al Qaeda links: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2011/04/2011422204117818153.html

though other websites dispute the connection of Al Qaeda to the area.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #109)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:13 AM

114. The family name is of Russian origin, region identified as Russian - probably Orthodox not Muslim.

We'll see.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #114)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:23 AM

115. Looking for other uses, I find "Said Tsarnaev" and "Ruslan Tasrnaev"

Said works for RT: http://rt.com/news/north-caucasus-russians-outflow-103/

http://www.classmates.com/people/Ruslan-Tsarnaev/8728083068

Said is Arabic, and has spread to other Muslim cultures as a name. Ruslan is Turkic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruslan_Aushev

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzhokhar_Dudayev "a Soviet Air Force general and Chechen leader, the first President of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria, a breakaway state in the North Caucasus"

So I'd say there's still a good chance they're Muslim.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #115)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:39 AM

116. Said is usually Muslim, Ruslan is a Christian non-Slavic given name

We're assuming these are their real names, and they don't look to me like brothers with the same parents. Anyway . . .

Wiki:
Non-Slavic/Christian male first names

Булат (Bulat, of Turkic (Tatar) origin, originally from Persian, means "steel")
Тимyр (Timur, of Turkic Tatar origin, means "iron")
Рycлан (Ruslan, of Turkic Tatar origin, means "lion"

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Response to leveymg (Reply #116)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:01 AM

121. I think that's saying "non-Slavic/non-Christian", not "Christian non-Slavic"

"Timur", for instance, is classically Muslim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #121)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:24 AM

126. As in Tamurlane (many spellings)

Would not be a good role model

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #121)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:03 AM

138. On second glance, I agree.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #109)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:41 PM

148. Being Muslim isn't a motive.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #148)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:46 PM

149. No, but if you want a motive for a Chechen who attacks the American public

then affiliation with Al Qaeda is the obvious one. And the elder brother does seem to have tended towards Islamic apocalyptic thinking:

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-posted-video-al-qaeda-prophecy-youtube

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #149)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:49 PM

150. Everyone wants to promote the notion that there is a vast terrorist network.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:49 AM

104. BREAKING: AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya,

RT @AP: BREAKING: AP sources: Boston bomb suspects from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year. -SS


Anyone confirm this yet?

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Response to 4dsc (Reply #104)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:52 AM

106. NBC is reporting it on local station (but also stating it's from the AP).

Say one of them was living with girlfriend.

They spent time in Turkey before coming to the US. Both were here legally. They had military backgrounds.

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Response to 4dsc (Reply #104)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:53 AM

131. I bet we don't start a war with Russia over this.

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 06:55 AM

110. I lived in Cambridge for three years.

Not an easy area to shut down, with all the weird little side streets. Lots of places to hide. But this shitheel is in an unimaginable and well-earned world of hurt. I REALLY hope they capture this fuckstick alive. And put him on open trial in a Boston sited federal court.

A lifetime in a supermax or turning big rocks into little rocks where he could be studied by the headshrinkers and profilers would be a fitting end.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #110)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:59 AM

120. self-delete

 

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:08 AM

112. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a city of Cambridge scholarship recipient


Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a city of Cambridge scholarship recipient



The City of Cambridge has announced the 2011 City Scholarship recipients for seniors at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School and others pursuing higher education.

The city is awarding the $2,500 scholarships to 45 students using contributions from citizens and businesses. About 35 to 45 scholarships are awarded each year, according to the city.

This year’s recipients will be honored at a ceremony and reception May 16 at 4 p.m. in the Sullivan Chamber of Cambridge City Hall, 795 Massachusetts Avenue.

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/cambridge/2011/05/cambridge_announces_2011_city.html

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:10 AM

113. It's now being reported that they're two brothers from Chechnya.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #113)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:45 AM

117. msnbc now saying they're from Turkistan (former Soviet republic or city in southern Kazakhstan)

Probably ethnic Turk-mixed Russian, based upon their names.

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Response to leveymg (Reply #117)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:28 AM

128. If one of them is named Tamurlan

That would make a great deal of sense

Tamurlane (many spellings) was a mongol who ruled an empire from the Chinese borders to Egypt, marrying a descendant of Ghengis Khan. He was know as "The Sword of Islam" and was exceptionally cruel.

I believe that he is buried in Turkmenistan or Uzbekistan.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:48 AM

118. Pete Williams ( MSNBC) says the fugitive brother ran over the other brother

as he fled in the car

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 07:49 AM

119. Note to Rand Paul and other clueless Obama critics: Drones are not needed ..

to deal with terrorists in the US when law enforcement have access and jurisdiction.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #119)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:19 AM

124. Nope, just good old fashioned public workers can do the job.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:02 AM

122. Brothers were immigrants in 2002-2003 !

 

Came 10 years or more ago.

How soon will all this be blamed upon Obama by the Republicans?

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #122)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:21 AM

125. Or how soon will CTers do it... Same thing, though...

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:18 AM

123. Latest Twitter picture of at large suspect

 

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #123)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:25 AM

127. Suspect number 2.



Suspect number 2.

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Response to Stella_Artois (Reply #127)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:35 AM

129. Thanks! Can you tell us where this is from?

 

It appears to be something from his school registry, as he is listed as in 11th grade.

He is a Cambridge Rindge and Latin High School graduate now,

(The major high school in Cambridge, MA).

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 08:42 AM

130. Police now surrounding house calling for suspect to come out

4 people safely removed from house, armored Boston Police truck and many officers staged on Quimby St.

Live feed:
http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:33 AM

134. Father of suspects to AP: ‘My son is a true angel’ (Jeeze!)

 

The father of the bombing suspects told the Associated Press that his son, who is the subject of a massive manhunt in the greater Boston area, is a good, smart student.
“My son is a true angel,” Anzor Tsarnaev told the AP by telephone from the Russian city of Makhachkala. One of his sons was killed in a shootout and the other, Dzhokhar, is on the run and considered to be extremely dangerous.
“My son is a true angel,” Tsarnaev said. “Dzhokhar is a second-year medical student in the U.S. He is such an intelligent boy. We expected him to come on holidays here.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2013/04/19/boston-marathon-explosions-live-updates-3/?wpmk=MK0000203#comments

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #134)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 09:45 AM

135. Sounds like Papa doesnt have a clue what the good son was doing back in the US....



Any parent loves their child ideally unconditionally - but sometimes there is major denial, even when your child turns out to be a sociopathic mass murderer and criminal.....

Med student in US....must be referring to the older son who is dead, but I havent heard any confirmation about his background...

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #135)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 10:04 AM

136. The 26 year old was unemployed, the 19 year old was...

 

a student who dropped out of U. Mass Dartmouth campus location.

At most, the 19 year old was a freshman in college, not a med student.

Father is in deep deep denial and fantasy.

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Response to Dan Ken (Reply #134)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM

140. He sounds just like the parents of Al Qaeda recruits in Indonesia

In indonesia they mostly recruit teenagers even as young as fourteen because the recruiters can easily brainwash them by showing videos and pictures of the victims in Gaza or Bosnia and making them believe that the US and its allies are their enemies. Next they will disconnect them from their families, the recruiters will make them believe that if their family don't agree with the Islamic teaching as preached by the terrorist groups then they are part of the infidels, that's why in Indonesia they also put a bomb in a mosque a few times because they think the majority of muslims are actually non-muslim. Their parents will never have a clue since their children will never say anything to the "enemy". If Dzhokhar really has a link to Al Qaeda I doubt if he really wanted to visit his parents on holidays.

The Tsarnaev brothers look like perfect recruits to me judging by their age, not to mention they can blend easily in the US

Then again.. we still don't know if there's a link between these guys and international terrorist groups

As they reel from police action, the capture of key figures, and declining resources, extremist organisations have been pushed to significantly ratchet up their recruitment efforts -- especially of impressionable teenagers and young adults.

" recruiters will show young kids slides or photos of Muslims allegedly being attacked by infidels, or kids will watch videos of it online," said Ahmad Sajuli, who left Indonesia at the age of 21 to spend six years in Afghanistan fighting the Russians in the 1990s.


North Sumatra and Aceh Police are investigating the reported disappearance of 10 students believed to have been recruited by alleged terrorists fighting for the establishment of an Islamic state in Indonesia.


http://khabarsoutheastasia.com/en_GB/articles/apwi/articles/features/2013/04/05/feature-02
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/04/07/terror-group-suspected-be-behind-students%E2%80%99-disappearance.html
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/10/02/former-terrorist-preaches-tolerance.html

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:33 PM

141. Governor giving update now live

http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/

Edit: Wow, I can't believe this 19 year old kid has managed to stay on the run for >12 hours since killing a cop, with ALL this law enforcement in the city. Esp. when the older one sounds far more likely to be the 'mastermind', from what I've read so far about the two of them.

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Response to brett_jv (Reply #141)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:11 PM

143. Door-to-door searches. :-\

 

Mass insanity.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:21 PM

144. Really though

So the pressing question I still have... WHO WAS THE NAKED GUY? Put in handcuffs, photographed, put in the back of a cop car... Why is the media ignoring a potential accomplice?

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Response to charminglynne (Reply #144)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:25 PM

145. Because he is not an accomplice.

He was questioned and cleared.

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Response to charminglynne (Reply #144)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:26 PM

146. Because he was cleared and released. Here is a link.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #146)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 02:33 PM

147. Thanks for the link

I never heard an update about it. Thanks.

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