Senate Republicans tell Obama to tone down political attacks
WASHINGTON Polite yet firm, Senate Republicans told President Barack Obama on Thursday to tone down his political attacks and prod Democratic allies to support controversial changes in Medicare if he wants a compromise reducing deficits and providing stability to federal benefit programs.
Participants at a 90-minute closed-door meeting said Obama acknowledged the point without yielding ground and noted that Republicans criticize him freely.
"To quote an old Chicago politician, 'Politics ain't beanbag,' " the president said.
The discussion came as Obama wrapped up a highly publicized round of meetings with rank-and-file lawmakers in both parties and both houses of Congress in hopes of building support for a second-term agenda of deficit reduction, immigration overhaul and gun control.
Obama met with Senate Republicans and House Democrats as legislation to lock in $85 billion in spending cuts and avert a government shutdown later this month made plodding progress in Congress and the two parties advanced rival longer-term budgets in both houses.
No breakthroughs had been anticipated and none were reported in the closed-door sessions, although Obama told reporters before returning to the White House, "We're making progress."
In the Senate, several Republicans told the president his rhetoric was not conducive to compromise.
Sen. John Thune of South Dakota referred to a recent interview in which Obama said some Republicans want to eviscerate Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
"Nobody here believes those programs ought to be gutted," Thune told Obama, the senator later recalled.
Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee said the message to Obama had been: "Step one is to work with us, not just heckle and taunt us on the campaign trail, and step two is to lead." The Tennessee lawmaker said Obama must also "go against the grain in his own party," much as Lyndon Johnson did in winning civil-rights legislation from Congress in the 1960s or Richard Nixon did in forging an opening with China in the 1970s.
If nothing else, the reviews of Obama's meeting with Senate Republicans were uniformly positive.
"We'll see where we go from here, but it was a great meeting," said GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who normally is one of Obama's sharpest critics in Congress.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_22793924/senate-republicans-tell-obama-tone-down-political-attacks
jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)You do not negotiate with terrorists. If you do, you're a dumb fuck who's proving their tactics will work.
sangsaran
(67 posts)Romney was supposed to win. Now that Obama has won, he has to perform Romney's duties.
...I know it sounds like a whacked-out conspiracy theory, and maybe it is, but that's how it seems to me.
LoisB
(7,185 posts)Republican. Liberal Obama ain't!
forestpath
(3,102 posts)BobbyBoring
(1,965 posts)and had an R in his title, they would love him!
Blandocyte
(1,231 posts)Volaris
(10,266 posts)GOP Tactics in a nutshell:
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK MOM HE HIT ME!!!!THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!
Well, Fuck you, Mitch
lark
(23,065 posts)said Lucy (turtleface) to Charlie Brown (Obama) as she yanks the football away -again.
Yeah, Obama, just give the Repugs everything since you've already tried that and it works out so well every time. They are liars and cheats and can't be trusted with our country's social safety net.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)Fearless
(18,421 posts)Bluzmann57
(12,336 posts)There is a word for that, but since it's not pc, I won't use it in here. But let's just say it stinks to high heaven.
The hell with the repukes. They lost. They need to deal with reality.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)They are responsible in very large part for our deficit today. They are the ones who pushed through two wars, tax cuts, and a pharma bill that are the largest contributors to the current deficit.
They are also the ones who contributed to lax regulations that allowed greedy banks and corporations to screw up the economy, leading to the recession in 2008.
Let's also not forget the Republicans largely insist on subsidies for wealthy oil companies, and resist attempts to modify current tax laws that allow major profitable corporations to pay essentially zero taxes.
And the list goes on...
Our economic recovery could have been much stronger if the Republicans in the 112th Congress had worked with Democrats to pass jobs bills that would have created jobs and increased tax revenue. The GOP also resisted bills that would have helped our unemployed troops get back to work when they returned after serving their country.
All totaled, this is BILLIONS of dollars that could have helped pay down the deficit, or prevent it from ballooning out of control.
I call bull pucky on every Republican in Congress. They are the problem, and they are the ones who are not working with Democrats to solve the problem.
When it comes to political attacks, let me remind them of the Obama birth certificate controversy, stating that their priority was to make sure Obama was a one term President, their lack of respect by a GOP member interrupting the SOTU speech, dispersing lies as facts, etc.
They really have no room to talk, so they should shut the hell up, they are the problem.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)not ballooning out of control thanks! that's their talking point, the administration as already taken steps to break the back on the deficit issue
AndyA
(16,993 posts)Rachel Maddow covered it on her show last week. Most of the public doesn't understand this, however. While President Obama has made great strides in reducing the deficit, think how much lower it would be if Congress had done their job and worked with him to get the job numbers in better shape.
Still, that does not absolve the Republicans for standing in the way of progress, nor does it forgive them of the responsibility for the uncontrolled growth during the Bushco years.
I'd like to know why every Democrat isn't pointing out how much the deficit has dropped since President Obama took office. Seems like they're missing an opportunity to educate.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)well for one thing about an opportunity to educate... we tend to preach to the choir
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)AndyA
(16,993 posts)Much of it was incorrect, or an outright lie. The "facts" were provided by Bushco and the GOP with the cooperation of the M$M had convinced the American people that Iraq was somehow involved with 9/11 and was making plans to be next to attack us.
I don't excuse the Dems for their votes, because they were wrong. 23 Dem Senators voted against the war, and 126 House Dems did as well, including Kucinich. They took a lot of heat for their votes, too, but history has shown that they were the real patriots.
UnrepentantLiberal
(11,700 posts)Democrats voted for that war because they felt they needed to politically and for no other reason. This is why I chose Obama over Hillary Clinton in 2007.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)There was a lot of political pressure to go to war, fueled by the media allowing Bushco to repeat lies that had been debunked.
I feel President Obama should have opened a formal investigation into the lies we were told leading to the wars, but he didn't, just like he's never done anything about the bankers that crashed the economy. This sets a very bad precedent going forward.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)and they AREN'T Merry Christmas
AAO
(3,300 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)Hell no! It's time for the President to go full viral on their ass!
Roll a video and let Obama answer the points as spoken by the Republicans.
Start with Mitch and his "one-term president" comment and explain that this was the start of the do nothing obstruction.
Keep the quotes clean and in full context, just expose the lies as they are spoken. See Jon Stewart.
Economics is too complicated and Fox has created a million experts. Their statements of misinformation need to be addressed side by side with the truth AND references. Womens issues, gun issues, etc. Americans AND house members didn't have a clue what the President was proposing on the budget. The same applies for every issue tainted by RW media propaganda.
This approach will create an entirely new way of doing what Ross Perot was doing years ago.
Their can be no Republican blowback without a factcheck reference, otherwise their response of lies will be the next town hall topic.
There can be only one truth! It's time America gets it.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)to ask them if they want any cheese with their whine/
Aren't they the ones that said it was good for the GOP to oppose the black guy in the White House? (Of course, the GOP will respond by saying that it shows they've come a long way because they didn't say "N-----" in the Whte House.)
AAO
(3,300 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)protecting the wealthy and stealing from the middle class.
Social Security and medicare are programs their labor has earned and Republicans need to stop trying to steal that money to protect the Rich.
It is all about how you frame your argument.
4dsc
(5,787 posts)Sorry but when you have weak leadership you tend not to fight for the people.
thelordofhell
(4,569 posts)From the filibustering, anonymous holding, obstructing Senate republicans?????
olddots
(10,237 posts)I needed a laugh because I'm thinking of giving the repukian douche maggots what they want = Civil War #2 Armageddon A Go-Go .
santamargarita
(3,170 posts)You get nothing but lies and bullshit from this annual Republican circle jerk.
CanonRay
(14,084 posts)cuz they're getting nervous.
Dryvinwhileblind
(153 posts)Oh John...John, John, John..nobody here believes those lies ought to be believed! Hey John?, didn't you vote for the Ryan budget?, yes!, just three words, John...On The Issues...dot org, you're on the record, you disingenuous derelict.
Now then, about all that muslim/illegitimate/one term/socialist garbage.>>>FKM!
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AAO
(3,300 posts)Then withhold water, nutrients, and sunshine, and voilà - program gutted!
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Obama's not attacking them. He's planning to cut Social Security and Medicare as we speak.
This is as ludicrous as the thread quoting Limbaugh that Republicans have "lost."
ailsagirl
(22,885 posts)That word is not in their vernacular. They're the biggest bunch of boors, bastards, and boneheads ever (a little alliteration for emphasis).
What a preposterous request.
TheBadWolf
(31 posts)Because I would tell them to go fuck themselves on live national television.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)"Should Obama go fuck himself?" "What are the merits or downsides to Obama fucking himself?" "Will the economy improve if Obama fucks himself?" "Let's hear from The GoFuckYourSelf think tank ...over to Fox news. " FOX news: "well we have been fucking ourselves for a long time ...and we've gotten over all the butt hurt" GOP: "Well we've fucked ourselves so now its Obamas turn."
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Bad Wolf for President!
meegbear
(25,438 posts)Paul E Ester
(952 posts)The Magistrate
(95,243 posts)Not one tenth as hard as they deserve.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)how they blow off Obama's first 4 years of reaching across the aisle in order to try to compromise with them.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Oh for fucks sake: Obama must also "go against the grain in his own party," much as Lyndon Johnson did in winning civil-rights legislation
Yea? Well you can start doing that with your own fucked up party ...assholes!
AAO
(3,300 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)because he was doubled up with laughter.
Seriously, these fucks have the sheer, poisonous GALL to complain about "political attacks"?
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)Why, President Obama has had his hands quite full giving away the store, thank you. He has had no time to attack Republicans!
::SNARK::
pennylane100
(3,425 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Which is, no doubt, an insult to morons everywhere.
patrice
(47,992 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)toddwv
(2,830 posts)The GOP can stick their trunk where the sun doesn't shine.
dorksied
(348 posts)We should be FLOODING the airwaves with attacks, all factually based, about their plans and misguided ideas. 2016 is going to be important for the future of our country, and we need to use the time we have to make it clear that Republicans are not working for the benefit if America.