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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:31 PM

 

GOP Senators Praise Obama’s Outreach On Grand Bargain

Source: TPM

Ordinarily the president would speak directly with leadership. But as the White House sees it, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) have been unwilling to begin a discussion about averting the sequester in a balanced way. The two GOP leaders have repeatedly ruled out raising any new revenue. So Obama is searching for Republicans who are willing to engage.

As part of his outreach, Obama has invited a number of Republican senators to dinner on Wednesday night at the Jefferson Hotel in Washington. Those expected to attend, according to The Associated Press, are Sens. Graham, John McCain (AZ), Kelly Ayotte (NH), Roy Blunt (MO), Pat Toomey (PA), Rob Portman (OH), Bob Corker (TN) and Ron Johnson (WI).

Graham said the broad consensus is that the deficit must be reduced by cutting long-term entitlement spending and extracting revenues by reforming the tax code to eliminate deductions.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/03/obama-outreach-gop-senators-grand-bargain.php?ref=fpb



If these monsters are suddenly praising Obama, he must really be telling them what they want to hear.

And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.

Which means those of us dependent on Social Security and Medicare are going to be screwed. Because these monsters are NOT going to be satisfied with any action that doesn't screw us.

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Reply GOP Senators Praise Obama’s Outreach On Grand Bargain (Original post)
MotherPetrie Mar 2013 OP
msongs Mar 2013 #1
MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #2
nineteen50 Mar 2013 #25
TheMastersNemesis Mar 2013 #3
theaocp Mar 2013 #4
GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #23
DJ13 Mar 2013 #5
Autumn Mar 2013 #6
forestpath Mar 2013 #11
sheshe2 Mar 2013 #28
Autumn Mar 2013 #30
sheshe2 Mar 2013 #33
Autumn Mar 2013 #34
sheshe2 Mar 2013 #35
Autumn Mar 2013 #37
sharp_stick Mar 2013 #7
markpkessinger Mar 2013 #10
MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #14
sheshe2 Mar 2013 #36
Plucketeer Mar 2013 #8
MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #16
forestpath Mar 2013 #9
MotherPetrie Mar 2013 #17
FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #19
davidthegnome Mar 2013 #12
Pakid Mar 2013 #13
KamaAina Mar 2013 #15
FiveGoodMen Mar 2013 #18
WillyT Mar 2013 #20
tecelote Mar 2013 #21
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #31
blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #39
DhhD Mar 2013 #22
UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #24
Autumn Mar 2013 #27
NorthCarolina Mar 2013 #26
Doctor_J Mar 2013 #29
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #32
blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #38

Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:34 PM

1. the negotiations begin with the republicans position and go downhill from the there

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:37 PM

2. They will only go downhill for old and poor people.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:07 PM

25. Austerity

Punishing the poor for the mistakes of the 1%.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:37 PM

3. Will Cough Up Seniors For A Grand Bargain To Screw Seniors

Obama could pull a Clinton and force the Dems to sacrifice seniors. And then the Dems will get shellacked worse in 2014 than they did in 2010. Obama's weak defense of Social Security And Medicare caused that mess.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:37 PM

4. Ah, what a bunch of hyperbole.

We don't know what's going to happen, so why don't we wait to complain about this until it's too late? Jeez. Eat your damn peas.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:52 PM

23. Imagine ...

whirled peas.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:49 PM

5. This just in

Grand Poobahs approve of Grand Screw Job

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 03:51 PM

6. I hope this is not a BOHIC moment for those dependent on SS and Medicare.

The fact that Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.” scares the shit out of me.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:02 PM

11. Graham is probably rubbing in hands in glee at the thought of 2014 now.

 

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Response to Autumn (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:41 PM

28. Really?

The fact that Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.”


since when have you ever believed a word Graham, or for that matter his cohort McCain have said? Now the Gop's words are facts to be believed? Over our President's?

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:49 PM

30. Really, Lindsey Graham finds it “incredibly encouraging.”

that was what he said. believe it or not, that doesn't enter into it. That was what he said, and the fact that that little fucker is encouraged bothers me. Do you have a link where Obama says Lindsey Graham saying that he finds the conversation they had “incredibly encouraging.” is bullshit and he ( Graham) has no reason to be encouraged?

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Response to Autumn (Reply #30)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:07 PM

33. No, Autumn, I have no links,

all I am saying, is why should we believe anything that they say. They are lying weasels, that will do and say anything to make this President fail. So why are we listening.

The OP said:

If these monsters are suddenly praising Obama, he must really be telling them what they want to hear.

And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.


Which means those of us dependent on Social Security and Medicare are going to be screwed. Because these monsters are NOT going to be satisfied with any action that doesn't screw us.


So the OP is saying that the President is caving, giving up everything to the GOP and betraying all of America? I am a little confused.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:19 PM

34. No you are wrong. The article says nothing about Obama caving.

The article says Lindsey Graham found their conversations “incredibly encouraging.” That really bothers me, I have no idea what Obama is going to do. No one does, all we know is he has offered a superlative chained CPI . Anything that that little weasel fucker Graham finds encouraging, I'm going to find troubling. If he's happy, I'm not. I find nothing confusing about that.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #34)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:10 PM

35. If I am wrong what does the quote mean?

If these monsters are suddenly praising Obama, he must really be telling them what they want to hear.

And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.


Which means those of us dependent on Social Security and Medicare are going to be screwed. Because these monsters are NOT going to be satisfied with any action that doesn't screw us.


The quote is not from the article, I read it. The quote is from MP...
And if he's telling them what they want to hear, he's willing to give them what they want.


Sure sounds like a caving statement. IMHO.





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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #35)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:29 PM

37. I clicked on the link and read the article, I really never got that far in the OP

and that was what I commented on. The posted article. If you have a problem with what MP said, that's between you and her.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:09 PM

7. Oh the pre-whining has begun

a little ahead of schedule but it's become a practiced mode of lack of conversation on DU so I'm not all that surprised.

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:59 PM

10. Call it whatever you want . . .

. . . But this is an issue of MAJOR importance, particiularly to those of us for whom Social Security/Medicare are not so many years away. Sorry you are unable to appreciate that fact.

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:13 PM

14. WHINE! Whine, whine, whine, whine, WHINE! I intend to whine my ass off.

 

If you don't like it, feel absolutely FREE to ignore me, block me, or whatever you need to do to be spared from my keeping my head out of the sand!

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Response to sharp_stick (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:11 PM

36. +1, sharp_stick

In 3...2...1...!

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:17 PM

8. Trousers lowered, ankles firmly grasped,

waiting for my hope and change to be inserted!

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Response to Plucketeer (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:16 PM

16. Bwahahahahahaha!!! Oh, don't worry...

 

Obama will use plenty of folksy lube!

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 04:54 PM

9. He's tried relentlessly to give them what they want - sounds like he finally succeeded.

 

I am disgusted beyond words.

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Response to forestpath (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:17 PM

17. It's almost like they cooked it up in advance.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:32 PM

19. It does seem VERY much like that!

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:11 PM

12. I wonder what the "Grand Bargain"

is going to look like? FDR, many years ago, gave us The New Deal. I'm guessing that Obama is offering to weaken the social safety net, drain money from social security, medicare, likely programs like TANF, medicaid, food stamps. I'm sure the Republicans will agree to remove some tax loopholes, but I suspect that, overall, the grand bargain is going to favor the right and the 1% far more than the rest of us.

From The New Deal, to The Grand Bargain.... damn. If we still needed proof that Washington is not on our side, I think this is it. I wonder what the expense of the dinner will amount to? It's sad and ironic that we're paying these people (via tax dollars) to destroy our social safety net while living like royalty. I can't decide whether to be angry, depressed, or to just shrug and write it all off as politicians doing what politicians do best.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:12 PM

13. Not a good sign

when the nuts like what you have to say . I get the feeling that my wife and I had been plan on working until we drop dead At least that way we might avoid eating cat food and doing without health care. As it was I had planed on working until 70 so my SS would be at it max now if the GOP get it way retirement is something that will only happen when I am to sick to enjoy it. Thanks you useless pile of rich garbage for screwing so many of us over with the full help of the people who job it use to be to work for all of us!!! I believe that as of today there are two elected representatives who we can trust Bernie Sanders and Alan Grayson there might be a few more I missed if so sorry about that.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:15 PM

15. Blunt, Toomey and Johnson are full-on teabaggers

the other five have their moments of lucidity. But the presence of those three teahadists is disconcerting, to say the least.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:30 PM

18. Glad to hear that the guy I voted for is keeping the enemy happy.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:32 PM

20. Watch Your Wallets...



& Rec !!!

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:36 PM

21. Entitlements mean we're entitled to them.

How did they get "on the table"?

Taxes are supposed to be used to run the country.

We don't have an entitlement problem. We have a tax problem. Those that benefit the most don't want to pay their fair share of the taxes. Plain and simple.

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Response to tecelote (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:50 PM

31. You're so right, fix blatant tax give aways and loopholes. Tax the Koch bastards.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:07 AM

39. What are you trying to do, FIX the problem?!

Bipartisanship sucks

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:45 PM

22. Are these GOPers members of the FIX THE DEBT organization?

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 05:59 PM

24. And in 2016 it will be "we HAVE to support this conservative Democrat

 

because the Republican is even worse." Wall Street has us right where it wants us.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #24)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:34 PM

27. IF this were to go through, that shit is off the table

and all bets are off.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:22 PM

26. And why wouldn't they? Social Security and Medicare ON THE TABLE,

coupled with a ready and willing President, has GOT to be an absolute wet dream for the GOP. Will plans for the final assault on these programs be laid out, or simply finalized as the case may be, over dinner tonight?

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:41 PM

29. Disaster

Worst possible outcome - the Repukes get everything they want while Boner and McTurtle get to save face. Tell me again who won the election? And what exactly did I get for voting for Obama (D)?

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #29)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:51 PM

32. The hope changed, I guess.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:57 PM

38. Why shouldn't Republicans praise Obama's Grand Sellout? They crafted it.

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