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Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:25 AM

Two Boys Found Dead After Amber Alert

Source: Channel 30 News, Hartford Connecticut

Two young boys who were taken from their daycare in North Stonington this afternoon have been found dead in Preston.

Their grandmother, Debra Denison, who according to state police took the boys, was also found dead.

State Police received a call from civilians around 9:30 p.m. reporting that a suspicious vehicle was parked near Lake of Isle in Preston. It was reported that three injured people were inside the car, two which appeared to be children.



Read more: http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Two-Young-Boys-Dead-After-Amber-Alert-193425661.html



More crazy people with the precious in Connecticut.

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Reply Two Boys Found Dead After Amber Alert (Original post)
Throckmorton Feb 2013 OP
Whats_that Feb 2013 #1
catbyte Feb 2013 #2
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #7
SkyDaddy7 Feb 2013 #10
catbyte Feb 2013 #13
midwest irish Feb 2013 #38
Divine Discontent Feb 2013 #36
LineReply .
lunatica Feb 2013 #3
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #8
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #4
SemperEadem Feb 2013 #5
Lurks Often Feb 2013 #6
NewJeffCT Feb 2013 #12
Lurks Often Feb 2013 #16
WCLinolVir Feb 2013 #17
valerief Feb 2013 #9
EC Feb 2013 #11
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #14
Sunlei Feb 2013 #15
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #18
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #19
Throckmorton Feb 2013 #25
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #28
Occulus Feb 2013 #32
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #33
Occulus Feb 2013 #34
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #35
Jennicut Feb 2013 #20
Beacool Feb 2013 #22
Jennicut Feb 2013 #29
Beacool Feb 2013 #30
Beacool Feb 2013 #21
Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #23
marble falls Feb 2013 #24
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #27
Samurai_Writer Feb 2013 #37
msanthrope Feb 2013 #26
Ken Burch Feb 2013 #31

Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:29 AM

1. Terrible...

 

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:48 AM

2. OK, why did she have a mental illness AND a gun?!?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:15 AM

7. Protection from the voices.........

Seriously, unless she has a record of hospitalisation or violent episodes, the background check isn't likely to pick it up. IMHO, most of the Precious Flowers that hafta pack in public have serious mental health issues.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:45 AM

10. Even if they have been hospitalized & violent...

Not all states report mental health issues in a way that is picked up by the current background check system...Hopefully if they pass a bill on background checks something is done to help identify folks who should not have a gun.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:03 AM

13. I was thinking more about why her family didn't stop it rather than official policy.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:27 PM

38. Also

 

If they are recommended or referred to a hospital by the authorities or if they voluntarily check in, they still can own a gun. You have receive mandated (no way around it) hospitalization to lose the ability to own a gun.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:21 PM

36. yep... see the story I just posted about Jose Martinez, a shopper in Central Florida who had a carry

permit I believe they said on the news, and shot multiple times at a shoplifter in his car, trying to stop the....(again) shoplifter..... talk about wannabe-cop syndrome. reminds me of the killer of the skittles and tea teenager.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:55 AM

3. .

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Response to lunatica (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:17 AM

8. Truly.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:45 AM

4. Horrible.

Just beyond words.

RIP. little ones.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:52 AM

5. I'm confused....

Brenda and her husband, Jeremy Perry, told NBC Connecticut that Denison had a gun and suffered from mental illness, including split personalities.


why in the world would you let her pick up your sons if this is the case and you knew it to be the case?

what a tragedy all around.

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Response to SemperEadem (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:01 AM

6. Exactly. What the hell were the parents thinking.

They KNEW the grandmother was mentally ill, yet still allowed her to pick up the children.

Did either of the parents make any attempt to bring the grandmother's mental illness to the attention of either the police or medical providers?

There is a process in CT that allows for the police to seize guns from people believed to be mentally ill:

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-R-0280.htm

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:01 AM

12. The Hartford Courant did a story on that law

It's not used very often, and will often just take the guns away temporarily. So, even if somebody made a threat against another person, they'd likely just get their guns back a few months later.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:24 AM

16. The link broke down the results of the law. The point is

that the law is on the books.

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Response to SemperEadem (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:34 AM

17. Split personalities sounds like untreated schizophrenia.

Or treated. But either way this woman should not have been able to pick up the kids. A bit of denial here. People who are schizo will often not tell you the extent of what they are hearing or how strong the urges are. It is an illness that tries to shield itself.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:35 AM

9. It's a good thing that sick woman had a gun handy!

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:50 AM

11. Once again

everybody around knew she was not all there and still just left it alone - a prophecy of tragic outcomes for sure. So many people know someone that they just know are not all there and know something bad will happen some day and still just let it go.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:04 AM

14. Just look at that picture

If that doesn't make you cry, you're not human.

When does this shit end?

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:22 AM

15. was the woman on one of those drugs with side effect 'thoughts of suicide'?

drug takers are supposed to report to their Doctor any side effects. I think the ball should be in the Doctors court to constantly monitor any person they RX these drugs.


Remember the airline pilot and crew who went psycho in flight? good thing someone kept the planes control out of their hands.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:42 AM

18. :(

 

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:46 AM

19. "More crazy people with the precious in Connecticut."

 

Oh bloody hell. One in four Americans suffer from some type and degree of "mental illness" so please don't paint with a broad brush and please have some sympathy for people suffering enough from the severe forms, who would do something like this to themselves and others. People don't seem to understand there is suffering involved. Please don't blame it all on "crazy", the scarlet letter.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:50 AM

25. Maybe you need to look at my earlier posts.

The ones where I got rid of all my guns, and had my teenage son involuntarily committed, because he is so ill. I live in Connecticut and know it can be done.

More crazy people with guns.

Must have the precious.

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Response to Throckmorton (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:48 PM

28. My proper response would get me banned from this forum. Suffice to say,

 

any absolutist response is bigotry and you really should check your extreme privilege. Putting you on Ignore. Good luck with the karma.

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:25 PM

32. You need to take a chill pill or smoke a joint or fuck or something

because that is one of the most non-alertable "over the top" response I've seen in a while. Seriously- did you even read what you wrote? My GOD, you just validated every last word of the "precious" description, and you don't even know it!

Shit like what you posted, and specifically the attitude all that fecal matter represents, is why the violence and accidents won't stop until people like you are stopped. Your irrational, knee-jerk, 'cold, dead hands' response is what got us into this situation in the first place, and what was probably one of several niggling details that led to this exact tragedy!

The poster stated flatly that they voluntarily and willingly, albeit unofficially, relinquished their Constitutional right to arms because they felt it necessary due to a possible tragic incident due to the availability of those arms to a person with severe mental illness, and you're calling their attitude "extreme privilege"? Are you fucking serious? Because that's balls-to-the-wall, crazy-as-a-shithouse-rat, batshit fucking insane and only serves to prove that you do in fact see your guns in the way Goollum saw the One Ring!

Jesus jumped up and played the fiddle, I can't believe I read that post and I definitely can't believe you're so twacked in the head as to mean it seriously!

And if it was all sarcasm.... fail. End of line.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #32)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:33 PM

33. Take your own advice, you obviously cannot hear yourself whatsoever.

 

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Response to Fire Walk With Me (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:51 PM

34. Pretty much wat I expected. Bye.

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Response to Occulus (Reply #32)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:10 PM

35. Just for the record.

 

-I don't like guns, I don't like violence.
-I didn't like NRA even before their "demonize the mentally ill" bullshit.
-The OP has twice insulted 25% of the American population suffering from some sort of "mental illness" as well as parroting the NRA's talking points about the "mentally ill".
-When did I say the severely mentally ill, whatever that means, should have guns? Again, search DU and good luck finding anything.

Until people like ME are stopped? What "cold dead hands" response? That's an NRA quote and if you actually searched DU you would never find it spoken by me. "MY guns"? I have never owned a gun, I don't even like being near them, but thank you for somehow knowing I have somehow sometime owned a gun (or more than one, you've used the plural) and for calling me insane and the problem based upon an utterly incorrect assumption.

You are most obviously responding to the wrong post. Take care.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:09 AM

20. My mom's best friend is a cousin of the mother.

I live in CT and I heard the amber alert on tv last night. My mom just called me a few minutes ago to tell me those boys were found dead and that her friend is related to the Perry family . Ugg. Just terrible. First Newtown and now this. In CT we have issues of violence in our cities like any state. But children being murdered by people in suburbs is not a usual occurence here.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:14 AM

22. Very sad.

I wonder what prompted her to kill the children. Late last night I heard on the news that all three had been found dead, but they didn't give any further details.

My condolences to the family.




BTW, how are you?

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Response to Beacool (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:54 PM

29. hey Bea

The grandmother was bi polar per her daughter. Just so sad.

I'm doing well though I just got over a bout of strep throat.I am a sub teacher and this time of year is crazy bad for germs! I just subbed a kindergarten class yesterday and it's hard to stop 5 and 6 year olds from being all over you. My girls are doing great and getting so mature. They will be 8 and 9 this summer, which is hard to believe. Growing up fast. They love school and do gymnastics, piano and Girl Scouts. I am essentially a taxi service all week.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #29)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:48 PM

30. Taxi service?

I'm sure that you're loving every minute of it. Enjoy them while they are still home, they grow so fast.

Sorry to hear that you have been sick, I substituted once for a few weeks. The school was kindergarten to third grade. You're right, at that age they are all over you. LOL!!

So the lady was bipolar? Terrible illness. I just heard that Carrie Fisher was hospitalized because she had been acting erratically on some cruise ship. She too is bipolar. The daughter of one of my cousins had it and was institutionalized several times over the years. She used to hurt herself. One day she died of a heart attack. She was a talented, funny girl and was only in her 20s when she died. Very sad..........

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:12 AM

21. How horrible, those poor babies!!!!

"Police said Denison suffered from mental illness and Brenda and her husband, Jeremy Perry, told NBC Connecticut that Denison had a gun and suffered from split personalities."

Why would the mother of the children trust her mother to pick them up knowing that she was mentally ill and had a gun?

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:35 AM

23. This is eerily similar to a story I read years ago about a woman who let her sister...

...watch her children, even though she knew the sister suffered from severe mental illness. One evening, her sister took the children for a ride on the freeway, pulled over to the shoulder, stripped herself and the children completely naked and walked them into oncoming traffic, where they were all killed instantly.

Many people suffer from severe mental illness and most of them are usually only a danger to themselves, if that. Why another adult would allow a person like that to watch their children, except in the most strictly supervised setting, is beyond me.

PB

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:48 AM

24. Knowing all of this about grandma - they let her pick up the kids, why?????

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Response to marble falls (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 12:41 PM

27. She's been OK lately.....

Families hope for the best, and may have little knowledge of the extent of the disease, or the implications.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:18 PM

37. Families can be in denial for a long time

I'm a forensic psychiatric nurse. I cannot tell you how many times family members will call and ask "Is Mom/Dad getting better? Do you know when they will be able to come home?" Of course I cannot tell them that their family member most likely will NEVER get better and NEVER come home. But that's the reality.

For those who are severely mentally ill still out in the community, not getting treatment, and whose families are not being realistic about their condition and care, they are at extremely high risk of hurting or killing themselves and others.

The cuts to mental health funding over the past 30+ years have left our nation with not only a serious lack of mental health care, but a serious societal problem of keeping the rest of society safe.

These little boys didn't have to die. These parents will feel guilt and remorse for the rest of their lives, I'm sure. And the grandmother didn't have to die, either, if she was able to get proper treatment. A very, very sad situation all around.

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:19 AM

26. I can't imagine what it was like for the person who found them. nt

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Response to Throckmorton (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:09 PM

31. "Jesus wept".

that's all I got.

Some things should just never happen.

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