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Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:20 PM

AB InBev Overstates Alcohol in Budweiser, Lawsuit Claims

Source: Bloomberg

Anheuser-Busch InBev NV (ABI), the world’s biggest brewer, was sued by consumers in three U.S. states for allegedly overstating the alcohol content in its Budweiser beer.

AB InBev’s St. Louis-based Anheuser-Busch Cos. routinely adds extra water to its finished products to produce malt beverages with significantly less alcohol content than displayed on its labels, violating state statutes on consumer protection, according to in a complaint filed yesterday in federal court in Philadelphia. Similar lawsuits were filed in federal courts in New Jersey and San Francisco.

“AB’s customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly enriched by the additional volume it can sell,” Thomas and Gerald Greenberg said in the Philadelphia complaint.

AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent of the U.S. beer market. The company is seeking government approval to buy the rest of Grupo Modelo SAB, Mexico’s largest beermaker, for $20.1 billion. The Modelo brands account for 7 percent of the U.S. market. AB InBev shipped 98.5 million barrels in the U.S. in 2011, according to Beer Marketer’s Insights.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-26/ab-inbev-overstates-alcohol-in-budweiser-lawsuit-claims.html



Hopefully foreign owned InBev will get its comeuppance for making shitty beer.

Craft Beers Forever!

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onehandle Feb 2013 OP
KamaAina Feb 2013 #1
mikeysnot Feb 2013 #3
onehandle Feb 2013 #6
frylock Feb 2013 #2
nineteen50 Feb 2013 #5
frylock Feb 2013 #7
nineteen50 Feb 2013 #16
frylock Feb 2013 #19
mac56 Feb 2013 #32
frylock Feb 2013 #36
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #39
mopinko Feb 2013 #56
KamaAina Feb 2013 #12
bluesbassman Feb 2013 #14
frylock Feb 2013 #20
KamaAina Feb 2013 #22
onehandle Feb 2013 #8
frylock Feb 2013 #10
Igel Feb 2013 #58
formercia Feb 2013 #9
frylock Feb 2013 #11
formercia Feb 2013 #13
frylock Feb 2013 #29
hatrack Feb 2013 #18
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #27
frylock Feb 2013 #28
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #30
frylock Feb 2013 #38
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #40
Son of Gob Feb 2013 #45
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #43
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #47
BreweryYardRat Feb 2013 #64
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #65
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #57
formercia Feb 2013 #4
BainsBane Feb 2013 #24
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2013 #15
another_liberal Feb 2013 #34
DallasNE Feb 2013 #17
denverbill Feb 2013 #25
Fuddnik Feb 2013 #21
BainsBane Feb 2013 #23
maddogesq Feb 2013 #26
Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #31
Earth_First Feb 2013 #35
AAO Feb 2013 #50
Nevernose Feb 2013 #66
another_liberal Feb 2013 #33
Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #37
AAO Feb 2013 #52
Igel Feb 2013 #59
Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #67
nineteen50 Feb 2013 #41
AAO Feb 2013 #42
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #49
AAO Feb 2013 #51
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #44
onehandle Feb 2013 #53
AAO Feb 2013 #46
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #48
Vinnie From Indy Feb 2013 #54
benld74 Feb 2013 #55
Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #60
Mosby Feb 2013 #61
Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #62
onehandle Feb 2013 #63
Kolesar Feb 2013 #68
laureloak Feb 2013 #69

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:25 PM

1. How is Budweiser like having sex in a canoe?

It's fucking close to water!

(craft)

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:27 PM

3. yes, yes

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:33 PM

6. It's amazing how fast you can find beer info online. Just start typing the name...

...and they magically pop up. Whenever I look for something new at one of my favorite pubs, my iPhone is always at the ready.

'The King Of Beers'

Rated 53 on their scale
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/65

Rated 0 on their scale
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/budweiser/473

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:27 PM

2. what did they expect drinking that swill?!

I know that when the tender at my local hang pours me a delicious Green Flash West Coast IPA or Ballast Point Sculpin IPA that i'm getting every bit of the 7.0% ABV that's advertised.

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:33 PM

5. As I know with my

Sierra Nevada Torpedo IPA. I will try your Sculpin and Green Flash IPA.

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Response to nineteen50 (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:38 PM

7. man do i love that torpedo..

if you like hops, and I just bet that you do, you'll enjoy the two examples I listed. hoppy drinking!

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Response to frylock (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:06 PM

16. If you want something unique try

SIERRA NEVADA BIGFOOT BARLEY-WINE STYLE ALE. Ones enough.

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Response to nineteen50 (Reply #16)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:12 PM

19. oh yeah. i've partaken of the Bigfoot..

and you're right. one is enough. I've had bigger beers. Avery Maharaja is one I had just the other night that clocks in at 10%, and I can handle two of those no prob. But there's something about the barley wine that just kicks my ass!

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Response to frylock (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:06 PM

32. Bell's Hopslam.

Get it while you can. It is a HOP BOMB.

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Response to mac56 (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:28 PM

36. taken under advisement..

because I do love that kick-in-the-teeth hop flavor!

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Response to mac56 (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:33 PM

39. Sold out in no time where I am.

Love has passed me by.

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Response to frylock (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:36 PM

56. torpedo is the best

sad that inbev got their hands on goose island.

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Response to nineteen50 (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:42 PM

12. Sierra Nevada is kid stuff

Lagunitas, Stone, Firestone and Anderson Valley all do better IPAs. And that's just within California!

The first two also have other ales (Lagunitas Little Sumpin' Extra and Stone Arrogant Bastard) that are well worth your while.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:50 PM

14. Definitely with you on the Lagunitas!

Good stuff!

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:16 PM

20. i'm a HUGE fan of Lagunitas and their fare..

Lagunitas IPA is one of my regulars. Stone is good for sure, but down here in San Diego I'd rather have something from Ballast Point or Port Brewing. you can't swing a dead cat down here without hitting a micro or macro brewer! Societe in Kearney Mesa is a fairly new brewer that I'm really digging right now.

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Response to frylock (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:21 PM

22. I've always wondered why that is

given that San Diego does not exactly have an oversupply of the main ingredient, water. Seems like it would make more sense to brew here in NorCal and ship south.

But then there'd be no Arrogant Bastard.

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:38 PM

8. Crafts, in my experience, are never under their %.

I've had a few that kicked my ass, that I was sure were a point or two higher.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:39 PM

10. indeed!

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Response to onehandle (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:46 AM

58. If so, probably illegally . n/t

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:39 PM

9. You could otherwise have a Colt 45

at 6% ABV.

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Response to formercia (Reply #9)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:41 PM

11. more bang for the buck to be sure..

we used to get quarts of King Cobra at the local bodega for 99 cents. don't miss those days at all!

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Response to frylock (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:43 PM

13. Not as bad as Tropical Beer

with Formaldehyde as a preservative.

Those old times at GITMO

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Response to formercia (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:57 PM

29. mmmmmmmm.... you can really taste the malt and formaldehyde!

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:11 PM

18. Mwaah, Green Flash, mwaah, gurgle gulp

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:44 PM

27. Beers that will kick your ass.

Lagunitas Brown Shugga, 9.99% ABV.


Great Lakes Alchemy Hour Double IPA, 9.4% ABV.


Dogfish Head Palo Santo Marron, 12% ABV.


Founders Imperial Stout, 10.5% ABV.


Brasserie Dubuisson Scaldis Noel, 12% ABV.


Dogfish Head Immort Ale, 11% ABV.


Two Brothers Revelry, 9.5% ABV.


Troegs Mad Elf Ale, 11% ABV.


North Coast Old Rasputin Russian Imperial Stout, 9% ABV.


North Coast Old Stock Ale, 11.9% ABV.


Unibroue La Fin Du Monde, 9% ABV.


Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout, 10% ABV.


Great Lakes Blackout Stout, 9% ABV.


Three Floyds Dreadnaught IPA, 9.5% ABV.


I'm of the philosophy of "One and Done."

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:49 PM

28. great list!

I'm more of an American Pale Ale guy. they tend to be in the 5-6 range, and I can enjoy 3 or 4 without getting my dick in the dirt!

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Response to frylock (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:00 PM

30. I like all sorts of beer.

Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:28 AM - Edit history (1)

All my life I've collected things, from music to political info and now to beer.

I've been graced (cursed?) to live next to a beverage store that boasts the second largest selection of beer in Ohio, and I frequently stop in to see what's new.

I tend to buy things quicker than I can drink, so my fridge is slightly overstocked. (There's over 30 different beers, along with a package of hot dogs and some hummus.)

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #30)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:33 PM

38. and your address, kplzthx!

I have some buns......

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Response to frylock (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:36 PM

40. I'm cosmopolitan.

I use tortillas.

Bring dill relish.

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Response to frylock (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:13 PM

45. Nothing wrong with getting your dick in the dirt, we all do it.

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:08 PM

43. Dont forget the Pacific North West

Silverdale, WA

Fat Scotch Ale (was Fat Bastard but lost law suit for name) 9.2% alcohol 30 IBU's

Whoop Pass Double IPA 8.5% alcohol and 85 IBU

to name two.

http://www.silvercitybrewery.com/restaurant/beer.htm

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:21 PM

64. If I may add to the list...

Left Hand's Wake Up Dead (Russian Imperial Stout, 10.2% ABV) is -- hands down -- one of the best beers I've ever had the pleasure to enjoy.



Smuttynose's Gravitation (Belgian Quad -- ABV varies yearly, anything from 6.6% -- 12%) is fucking delicious -- if you like raisins.



Smuttynose's Baltic Porter (8-9% ABV) is equally luscious, with coffee and chocolate flavors, and while the taste of raisins is present, it's much less overpowering.



Weyerbacher also makes fantastic beer -- especially their Blithering Idiot Barleywine (11%) and Old Heathen Stout (8%).

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Response to BreweryYardRat (Reply #64)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:21 PM

65. I contemplated buying Wake Up Dead today at the bottle shop.

It was reasonably priced and something I hadn't had before, but I ended up with a six of North Coast Ruedrich's Red Seal Ale and a single of Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Stout. (I wasn't too sure about the stout, so I thought I would take a chance with a single.)

I haven't seen those particular Smuttynose beers before, but I will keep them in mind when I'm shopping. (I like the taste of raisins in beer, and I'm a big fan of Dogfish Head Raison D'Etre.)

The only Weyerbacher beers I've had are Heresy, Imperial Pumpkin, and Last Chance IPA. (Last Chance isn't all that great, but sales go to help animals that are about to be put down, so it's tolerable.)

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:02 AM

57. Sculpin is sublime.

Big Eye IPA ain't too shabby either.


Have you tried Ballast Point Victory at Sea Coffee Vanilla Imperial Porter? There's one in my fridge that's been on the "To Drink" list for a while now...

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:31 PM

4. Add a little more Water

and you have Lite Beer.

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Response to formercia (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:23 PM

24. light OJ is another con

Half the OJ with water for the prices of regular OJ.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:51 PM

15. "The Man That Waters the Workers Beer"

MAN THAT WATERS THE WORKERS' BEER
(Paddy Ryan)

I am the man, the very fat man,
That waters the workers' beer
I am the man, the very fat man,
That waters the workers' beer
And what do I care if it makes them ill,
If it makes them terribly queer
I've a car, a yacht, and an aeroplane,
And I waters the workers' beer

Now when I waters the workers' beer,
I puts in strychnine
Some methylated spirits,
And a can of kerosine
Ah, but such a brew so terribly strong,
It would make them terribly queer
So I reaches my hand for the watering-can
And I waters the workers' beer

Now a drop of good beer is good for a man
When he's tired, thirsty and hot
And I sometimes have a drop myself,
From a very special pot
For a strong and healthy working class
Is the thing that I most fear
So I reaches my hand for the watering-can
And I waters the workers' beer

Now ladies fair, beyond compare,
Be you maiden or wife
Spare a thought for such a man
Who leads such a lonely life
For the water rates are frightfully high,
And the meths is terribly dear
And there ain't the profit there used to be
In watering the workers' beer

@drink
Copyright Workers Music Association

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:19 PM

34. Excellent!

That's some truly excellent verse, my friend!

Thank you much for sharing it with us.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:09 PM

17. Next Time You Go To Walmart

Read the fine print on the meat labels. A few years ago I stopped buying meat there because that $10 a pound steak contained 10% injected water, meaning the actual cost of the meat was $11 a pound.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:24 PM

25. Sadly, it's not just at Walmart. King Soopers and Target do it as well.

King Soopers does it to almost all of their pork. Target does it to a lot of their meats but also carries organic stuff that isn't juiced.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:19 PM

21. Cigar City in Tampa. Rated one of the top 5 breweries in the world recently.

Jai Alai IPA will knock your socks off! 8.5%

And it don't taste like any fucking Budweiser.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:22 PM

23. I could tell that just by tasting it

piss water.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:27 PM

26. Forget Buttwiper!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:03 PM

31. Ah, another elitist beer thread. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:27 PM

35. Not elitist; just alive. n/t

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:26 PM

50. Elitist? Drinking local brew? You've got it backwards. We aren't supporting the corporate oligarchy

 

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:14 AM

66. I used to despise "beer snobs"

And thought they were a bunch of hipster assholes who just thumbed their noses at anything mainstream. And don't get me wrong -- some of them are. Some days after a really hard day I'll pop open a can of Steel Reserve (I'm drinking one now, in fact) and I still think a cold Michelob on a hot Mojave desert afternoon is the equal of most microbrews.

However, I changed my opinion after streaming "Beer Wars" on Netflix. The corporate sheninagans legally pulled -- price fixing, lawsuits, graft, etc. -- were enough to get me to reconsider the microbrew industry. Most of them seem to be weirdos who have a big dream and a passion for quality beer, and often I'll give them my money just because of that. Coors/InBev/MegaBeerCo really don't need my money, and variety is the spice of life.

(Still don't like Bud very much, though, but I never did, not even in high school)

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:14 PM

33. Everything they make . . .

Everything they make is basically rain water with a little food coloring anyway. Totally wretched swill, to say the least.

(But wasn't that a cute commercial!)

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:30 PM

37. Objection! Objection! Objection!

Budweiser is NOT beer! It's a malt flavored beverage seasoned with hop extract. It is not beer!
This is beer!

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #37)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:42 PM

52. Now that is worth traveling to Pilsen

 

That's on my bucket list!

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #37)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:52 AM

59. I beg to differ.

Budweiser is, indeed, beer--and quite good beer. Provided that you're drinking it--whether svetle or tmave, light or dark--in the town of Budweis.

Budweis is usually called "Ceske Budejovice" these days since the days of German hegemony ended and is conveniently located in the Czech Republic.

Urquell (Prazdroj) is the crap of Czech beers, made at a large plant in the southern part of Prague. Scores, if not hundreds, of Czech beers are better. Then again, what's crap and what's not is entirely relative.

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Response to Igel (Reply #59)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:18 AM

67. Here the beer from Ceske Budejovice is called Czechvar.

It is very good, and is much better than the Inbev imitation. The Pilsner Urquell I drink is the unfiltered variety on draft in my neighborhood beerhouse, not the green bottled stuff. The problem with green glass is the light makes it skunky.

Wolf

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:43 PM

41. Try it

Ovila Abbey Quad With Plums 10.2%
And help rebuild the 1190 -1220ad Stone Chapter House imported from Spain now being restored at the New Clairvaux Abbey.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:00 PM

42. I can't imagine anyone drinking Budweiser past 1985 or so.

 

Or any other American "macro beer". Our population is uneducated in more ways than one.

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Response to AAO (Reply #42)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:19 PM

49. Advertising. nm

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #49)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:28 PM

51. You can say that again. n/t

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:09 PM

44. LOCAL craft beers forever!

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #44)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:58 PM

53. Pennsylvania Rocks For Local Craft Beers! nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:13 PM

46. If you are ever in southern Wisconsin, including Madison..

 

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:18 PM

48. What I find strange is that guys I've seen that drive huge pickup trucks, with oversize tires and

wheels, with a gun rack, etc. and they drink ice cold Bud Light, Light which taste to me like lousy water.

I guess I am not a "real" man.

I second "kraft beers forever".

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:49 PM

54. How Beer Saved The World

Here in Indy, Bell's Two Hearted, Alpha King are quite nice!

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:14 PM

55. Auggie Busch is spinning in his grave

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:09 PM

60. WHOA. Budweiser is crappy? Who knew? (nt)

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:58 PM

61. I recently discovered Deschutes Chainbreaker White IPA

It's great for people who don't like "strong" beer but its still an IPA.

My fave high alcohol beer is Hops Rising (double IPA) by Squatter. Their IPA is excellent.

Trappist rochfort 10 (sp) is pretty good.

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:52 PM

62. Beer and Cats Made Civilization

Beer made accumulating large amounts of grain desirable. Cats made it possible.

And isn't that Tom Baker (the 4th Doctor) on the Old Rasputin bottle? (A yummy RIS. Almost as good as Victory Storm King.)

Wolf

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Response to Wolf Frankula (Reply #62)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:25 PM

63. Victory is a great brewery. There's great beer here in Pennsylvania. nt

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:30 AM

68. There's beer in their bottled water...eom

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Response to onehandle (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:19 AM

69. Suit filed by former employees seeking millions $$$$

Not worth a hoot. Again, the real story is who is behind the sabotage of 3G Capital holdings.

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