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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:59 PM

Academy Award Show Raises Ratings and Hackles

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Source: NYT

Jewish, women’s and family organizations on Monday publicly flung knives at Seth MacFarlane’s off-color Oscar show. Hollywood for the most part stayed true to form and aimed its cutlery at his back.

Post-Oscar Monday found the movie capital coming to grips with a 3-hour-35- minute ceremony that climbed in the ratings but at its best seemed to hide a great year for film behind a flurry of musical numbers, TV memories and Michelle Obama. At its worst, members of the Academy of the Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said, the ceremony trafficked in offensive humor.

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“It is offensive, even though comedians have great latitude,” said Rabbi Marvin Hier, speaking of a skit in which Mr. MacFarlane, in character as the trash-talking teddy bear from his movie “Ted,” counseled Mark Wahlberg that it’s best to become Jewish and donate to Israel if you want to work in Hollywood. Rabbi Hier, an Academy member and dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center here, was seconding an opinion offered earlier in a statement by Abraham H. Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. Speaking by telephone Mr. Foxman said he was particularly troubled by the “duration and intensity” of a skit that was likely, in his opinion, to be seen as reinforcing anti-Jewish stereotypes among Oscar viewers around the world.

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Julie Burton, president of the Women’s Media Center, an organization that recently released a report on the shortage of female movie directors, said “The sexist tone throughout the show indicates a critical need for the Academy to expand its talent pool of female writers, producers and directors.” Ms. Burton added that instead of celebrating film, “the whole world saw them honoring men and mocking women.”

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“The Academy Awards broadcast contained sexist, misogynistic and sexually exploitative content,” Tim Winter, the president of Parents Television Council, said in a statement. “Clearly, families are no longer a welcome part of the audience.”

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/movies/awardsseason/higher-ratings-and-controversy-for-seth-macfarlane-at-oscars.html?pagewanted=all



Way to go, Seth MacFarlane, for single-handedly tarnishing the image of a prestigious award. He's gotta be banned from even attending.

And for most of us DUers it's gotta be a stopped clock moment for the PTC even if we don't agree with the majority of the org's beliefs.

Furthermore, even if you're a Family Guy fan you MUST be appalled at his choice of song lyrics in the Boobs song if you have a modicum of personal morality, as this tumblr pointed out:


During his “We Saw Your Boobs” song Seth MacFarlane listed off women who’s breasts he’d seen in their movies. As if this isn’t grotesque enough four of the instances he listed were scenes of rape or the character was raped during the movie.

Hilary Swank in Boys Don’t Cry.
Jodie Foster in The Accused.
Jessica Chastain in Lawless.
Charlize Theron in Monster.

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Reply Academy Award Show Raises Ratings and Hackles (Original post)
alp227 Feb 2013 OP
uppityperson Feb 2013 #1
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #9
uppityperson Feb 2013 #17
Malikshah Feb 2013 #15
uppityperson Feb 2013 #16
Ian David Feb 2013 #2
Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #5
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #10
Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #14
Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2013 #18
wordpix Feb 2013 #34
DURHAM D Feb 2013 #3
Jumpin Jack Fletch Feb 2013 #4
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #6
graham4anything Feb 2013 #7
Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #8
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #11
Bigbluebrush Feb 2013 #13
Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2013 #20
itsrobert Feb 2013 #22
Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2013 #24
leftynyc Feb 2013 #32
wordpix Feb 2013 #36
Leslie Valley Feb 2013 #12
AnnieBW Feb 2013 #19
alp227 Feb 2013 #23
msanthrope Feb 2013 #29
itsrobert Feb 2013 #21
Proletariatprincess Feb 2013 #25
edbermac Feb 2013 #26
alp227 Feb 2013 #27
edbermac Feb 2013 #28
bigpenguin Feb 2013 #30
azurnoir Feb 2013 #31
Mike Daniels Feb 2013 #33
Hatchling Feb 2013 #35

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:05 PM

1. I missed the context of the "boobs"sightings. Watching the women as he called them out, none of

them were amused. That last bit makes it even worse.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:00 PM

9. Those were preplanned cut shots

Either filmed before hand or they knew it was coming. They were all pretty obvious acted reactions.

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:25 PM

17. thank you, the whole thing is weird to me.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:21 PM

15. If you looked closely, you'll note that their reactions were already filmed.

In other words, they were in on the joke there. Note that none of the women whose reaction was shown were wearing the same clothes...

Continuity error--yes. But it also shows that this was planned and filmed...

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Response to Malikshah (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:25 PM

16. Ah, I didn't notice that. It is just weird.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:05 PM

2. Next year, "We Saw your Dick?"

We saw Sean Connery's dick in Zardoz...

Sorry, that's not only all I can think of, but what rhymes with Zardoz?

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Response to Ian David (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:20 PM

5. John's Boehner

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Response to Ian David (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:02 PM

10. Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises

Also Harvey Keitel in The Piano.

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Response to Ian David (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:18 PM

14. Everything Ewan MacGregor is in

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Response to Ian David (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:40 PM

18. Colin Farrell in Alexander.

 

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Response to Ian David (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:52 AM

34. then there was Harvey Keitel in ???

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:14 PM

3. It was beyond juvenile.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:16 PM

4. Please!

 

If anything, SethMac went too easy on the pampered, millionaire navel-contemplators of Hollywood! If I could impose my choice of host on next year's show, it'd be Bill Maher!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:25 PM

6. They picked Seth McFarlane to be their host

Exactly what were they expecting? Danny Kaye?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:28 PM

7. Worse than all the charges above, Seth dowright stunk. He wasn't funny.

 

2nd worst host of all time (After Anne Hathaway and James Franco).

To think Letterman did better than Seth.(and he stunk too).

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:41 PM

8. Who do you find funny?

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Response to Bigbluebrush (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:03 PM

11. Probably Dick Cavett

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:16 PM

13. Yes, wonderful gentle humor, a lost art.

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Response to Bigbluebrush (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:42 PM

20. For alot of people, Knock-knock jokes are too edgy.

 

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:49 PM

22. True

Maybe they could have gotten Rich Little.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:22 AM

24. Too edgy still. . .someone more bland and capser milquetoast: Brad Stine (unfunny teabagger too)

 

Maybe Kirk Cameron can do his God schtick next year.

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Response to Bigbluebrush (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:44 AM

32. Billy Crystal

I always enjoyed him doing the Oscars.

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Response to Bigbluebrush (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:53 AM

36. two women - Tina Fey and Amy Poehler

They were mentioned but too bad they didn't host

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:08 PM

12. So were they expecting anything different from Seth MacFarlane who makes his money

 

Producing shows for scumbag, anything for a buck, Rupert Murdoch's Fox TV network?

For the cripes sake it's the profits from the entertainment division that allows Faux News to keep broadcasting, and MacFarlane is partially responsible for those profits.

MacFarlane can go EFF himself.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:42 PM

19. It's pretty bad when the feminists agree with the Fundies

What's really scary is that he managed to offend both the Family Research Council and feminist organizations. This may have been the first time that those two groups agree on ANYTHING!

Shatner was right the first time. McFarlane was a horrible host, and a sexist pig to boot.

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Response to AnnieBW (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:01 AM

23. Well, Andrea Dworkin testified before Reagan AG Meese's anti-porn commission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin#Testimony_before_Attorney_General.27s_Commission_on_Pornography

On January 22, 1986, Dworkin testified for half an hour before the Attorney General's Commission on Pornography (sometimes referred to as the "Meese Commission") in New York City, and answered questions from commissioners after completing her testimony. Dworkin's testimony against pornography was praised and reprinted in the Commission's final report, and Dworkin and MacKinnon marked its release by holding a joint press conference. Meese Commission subsequently successfully demanded that convenience store chains remove from shelves men's magazines such as Playboy (Dworkin wrote that the magazine "in both text and pictures promotes both rape and child sexual abuse") and Penthouse. The demands spread nationally and intimidated some retailers into withdrawing photography magazines, among others. The Meese Commission's campaign was eventually quashed with a First Amendment admonishment against prior restraint by the D.C. Federal Court in Meese v. Playboy (639 F.Supp. 581).

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Response to AnnieBW (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:55 AM

29. See, the 1980s. Dworkin and Meese, the prude road show....nt

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:43 PM

21. Very entertaining show last night

Lighten up folks.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:38 AM

25. Exactly right, robert.

I thought last nights show was the best in ages. And, I can't rember when a host has not be critisized since Johnny Carson hosted regularly. The controversy is part of the show now. We are still talking about it, aren't we? Maybe that is the point afterall.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:56 AM

26. Not everyone thought so.

“I loved the boob song, I thought he was great,” said Jennifer Lawrence, speaking backstage after the show, her Oscar for best actress in tow.

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Response to edbermac (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:58 AM

27. What else do you expect from someone with a vested economic interest in the Oscars?

Lawrence taking a critical stance towards MacFarlane would jeopardize her future chances of even getting a nomination!

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Response to alp227 (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:45 AM

28. Really?

I wasn't aware he had that awesome power to blackball someone in the industry for not liking his jokes.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:49 AM

30. So...

Just to be clear - they hired a guy who has written songs like "You Have AIDS" and "Prom Night Dumpster Baby"

...and then are surprised when his humor is off-color?

Sounds like a lot of pearl clutching to me.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:17 AM

31. well maybe next year they could get Ricky Gervais

after all he did quite well at the Golden Globe Awards in 2012

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:49 AM

33. "the ceremony trafficked in offensive humor" - Really, coming from the creator of Family Guy?

What were the members of the Academy possibly expecting when McFarlane was booked as the host?

If it wasn't for offensive and misogynistic humor an episode of Family Guy would end immediately after the theme song.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 08:52 AM

35. Locking

This is anlysis, not LBN. Does not fit SOP.

Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs. Important news of national interest only. No analysis or opinion pieces. No duplicates. News stories must have been published within the last 12 hours. Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread.

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