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Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:16 PM

Rapper Kenny Clutch killed in Las Vegas shooting

Source: KNTV Las Vegas, ABC local affiliate

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- Details continue to emerge following the fatal shooting and car explosion on the Las Vegas Strip Thursday morning.

A cab burst into flames, killing both people inside. It's the dramatic end to a violent shooting on the Las Vegas Strip.

Las Vegas police said the occupants of a black Range Rover opened fire on two people in a Maserati, killing the driver and causing the car to speed through a red light at Flamingo and collided with the cab.

The attorney of Kenneth Cherry Jr., also known as Kenny Clutch the rapper, confirmed to Action News, Clutch was the driver of the Maserati and was killed in the shooting. In one of his music videos, Clutch is seen in what's believed to be the Maserati from the crime scene.

Read more: http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/192397351.html

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Reply Rapper Kenny Clutch killed in Las Vegas shooting (Original post)
kwassa Feb 2013 OP
Laurian Feb 2013 #1
longship Feb 2013 #2
kentauros Feb 2013 #20
Beacool Feb 2013 #41
longship Feb 2013 #44
Beacool Feb 2013 #45
longship Feb 2013 #46
Beacool Feb 2013 #48
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #51
Warpy Feb 2013 #77
Archae Feb 2013 #3
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #27
Freddie Stubbs Feb 2013 #37
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #39
Beacool Feb 2013 #42
snooper2 Feb 2013 #53
Ash_F Feb 2013 #4
Posteritatis Feb 2013 #50
Ian David Feb 2013 #8
callous taoboy Feb 2013 #18
Larry Ogg Feb 2013 #21
callous taoboy Feb 2013 #31
Larry Ogg Feb 2013 #34
callous taoboy Feb 2013 #35
FrodosPet Feb 2013 #70
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #11
callous taoboy Feb 2013 #19
Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #33
rocktivity Feb 2013 #14
RZM Feb 2013 #29
rocktivity Feb 2013 #32
hack89 Feb 2013 #22
snooper2 Feb 2013 #54
bitchkitty Feb 2013 #58
Nevernose Feb 2013 #63
triplepoint Feb 2013 #5
Laurian Feb 2013 #6
slackmaster Feb 2013 #30
apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #74
kiva Feb 2013 #7
rollin74 Feb 2013 #9
callous taoboy Feb 2013 #17
jzodda Feb 2013 #57
mwrguy Feb 2013 #10
mokawanis Feb 2013 #12
Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #23
kiva Feb 2013 #24
Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #25
kiva Feb 2013 #36
Adenoid_Hynkel Feb 2013 #13
cantilever Feb 2013 #38
lexw Feb 2013 #15
Diyames Feb 2013 #16
lexw Feb 2013 #40
Beacool Feb 2013 #43
Sunlei Feb 2013 #26
slackmaster Feb 2013 #28
Bosonic Feb 2013 #47
classof56 Feb 2013 #55
rocktivity Feb 2013 #49
rocktivity Feb 2013 #52
rocktivity Feb 2013 #56
Beacool Feb 2013 #61
slackmaster Feb 2013 #62
Beacool Feb 2013 #64
rocktivity Feb 2013 #59
kwassa Feb 2013 #60
rocktivity Feb 2013 #65
rocktivity Feb 2013 #66
rollin74 Feb 2013 #67
rocktivity Feb 2013 #68
FrodosPet Feb 2013 #69
rocktivity Feb 2013 #71
kwassa Feb 2013 #72
rocktivity Feb 2013 #73
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kwassa Feb 2013 #78

Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:33 PM

1. I'm old and totally ignorant about rap music, but what is it about

the artists or the industry that leads to so many violent deaths?

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:40 PM

2. Agree. I don't get it either.

And I don't even like rap. To me, it sounds like somebody yelling at me.

My favorite is opera, where people really do yell at you.

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Response to longship (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:26 AM

20. But they yell at you in a beautiful and harmonious manner.

Unless it's PDQ Bach operas

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Response to longship (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:32 AM

41. I love opera too.

Fortunately, Manhattan is only a few minutes away. The Met is a treat.

I don't get rap either, very few rappers can be consider singers. Most do a street version of recitative.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #41)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:57 AM

44. Recitative can be very nice, though.

In Le Nozze do Figaro, it's positively wonderful -- a perfect bridge between Mozart's wonderful ensemble pieces and arias. Can't listen to it enough times.

My personal favorite, Giulini recording on Decca/London, even though it has some cuts.


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Response to longship (Reply #44)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:13 AM

45. Oh, I got no problem with recitative.

But rap hurts my ears and I hate the lyrics, the sexism and lack of respect for women is depressing.

I haven't heard that recording. i'm going to have to check it out.



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Response to Beacool (Reply #45)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:29 AM

46. It's great.

The principles:

Figaro: Giuseppe Taddei
Suzanna: Anna Moffo
Count Almaviva: Eberhard Wächter
Countess Almaviva: Elizabeth Schwarzkopf
Cherubino: Fiorenza Cossotto

Giulini's pacing is great, the recording is classic Decca, the principles are great, especially in the ensemble, playing off one another. I find Cossotto's performance is astounding.

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Response to longship (Reply #46)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:09 AM

48. Great singers all of them.

Thanks, I'll look up the recording. Cossotto is one of my favorite mezzos and what can one not say in praise of Schwarzkopf.

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Response to longship (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:05 PM

51. Agreed.

Although, sometimes I opt for the 'opera w/o words' because the music is so incredibly beautiful.

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Response to longship (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:45 PM

77. I like both, actually

although I have no use for gangsta rap. I defy you to listen to "Baby Got Back" and not grin. I also have no use for the kind of obscure operas they used to dig up on NPR back in Boston. You knew half way through the overture why they'd sunk into obscurity.

My taste in music runs very wide. I like everything but pop.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:45 PM

3. Rap comes mostly from inner-cities...

A lot of it glorifies criminals.

Dope dealers, gang members, etc.

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Response to Archae (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:38 AM

27. Sounds like Scorsese's filmography



Just sayin'...

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #27)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:17 PM

37. Can you imagine Martin Scorsese committing a drive-by?

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Response to Freddie Stubbs (Reply #37)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:44 PM

39. No, and I can't imagine Jay-Z or Method Man or Rakim or Kendrick Lamar or KRS-1 committing one

either.

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Response to Archae (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:33 AM

42. Exactly.

Some of them are little more than hoodlums who made good.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #42)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:51 PM

53. yep, sucks when hoodlums make something of themselves...



Can you sing this in key?



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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:53 PM

4. Chivalry

I'm serious.

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Response to Ash_F (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:50 PM

50. Yep. (nt)

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:13 PM

8. Here, this might help...

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Response to Ian David (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:15 AM

18. No comment other than to say that

I just don't get it. I mean I get struggles, I get desperation, but what is lacking here is logic- This guy says that the only choices in life are to get what's yours
any way you can, that violence is always an alternative. Fuck that shit. When I was his age I could've gone down a really bad road, it was there for me to take, but I wised up and got away from that choice.

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Response to callous taoboy (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:20 AM

21. Go trap a wild mountain lion in a corner and start beating it with a stick...

And when the lion goes psycho and starts ripping you to pieces, it means it is trying to tell you something.

How long would it take for you to "get it"?

Robert Hare is said to be the Worlds leading expert on psychopathology, and in his book "Without Conscience" he says "sociopath (not to be confused with psychopath) is a product of subculture."

The Ghetto is one of many types of subcultures, but it is the type of subculture that - metaphorically speaking - traps young people in a corner where their conscience is beaten out of them with a stick. In other words, the Ghetto is a violent breading ground for sociopaths, and what you see far to often, is the logic of a, otherwise sane mind, fighting desperately to survive any way it can.

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Response to Larry Ogg (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:20 PM

31. Right. All kids who grow up in the ghetto choose to go gangsta. Got it.

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Response to callous taoboy (Reply #31)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:07 PM

34. Wrong! Try not seeing everything as being black and white.

You might end up seeing a whole lot more.

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Response to Larry Ogg (Reply #34)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:43 PM

35. You say pretty concretely that the ghetto traps young people. Really? All young people?

You didn't answer my question. No doubt growing up in a ghetto is mainly horrible. What I am objecting to in these videos such as the one up-thread is that the rappers spread the message that there is no way out and that violence is o.k. Then, rappers such as the one killed in Vegas, who have obviously done pretty well, turn around and instead of offering messages of hope they offer messages of hype and the glorification of a shit attitude which perpetuates more shit attitude. It's like child abuse in that it is an endless cycle until one of the abused finally takes a stand and decides that life has choices (even children in some of the most dire situations have ended up doing o.k. later in life and they stop perpetuating abuse on their young).

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Response to Larry Ogg (Reply #21)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:13 PM

70. The man was a PIMP!

He was making fat stacks of cash by furthering the commoditization of human beings for the benefit of some horny assholes. And then, ultimately, innocent people DIED from his direct and deliberate violence.

He gets no more of a moral pass, regardless of his background, than anyone else doing this, be they a street pimp or multinational corporation.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:47 PM

11. Worship of gang culture, hanging around with

gang members because of said worship......

Really, what could possibly go wrong?

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:23 AM

19. Bingo. Insanely stupid.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:26 PM

33. You got the order of event wrong most start in Gangs and many use rap to get out of the game

but a few never managed to get out from under the baggage of their old lives.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:43 AM

14. Think of hiphop as a nation where ANY kind of crime is a capital crime

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and the ONLY kind of punishment is the death penalty.

Even the Mafia and motorcycle gangs dispense justice with a sense of perspective: while most infractions can indeed get you murdered, there are situations in which simply breaking your kneecaps or firebombing your place of business is punishment enough. Hip-hoppers, however, will "go to the mattresses" over something as trivial as eating someone else's candy -- anything less makes you look "weak."

Most recently, rapper and record label owner Rick Ross was fired upon because he mentioned the founder of a gang on one of his recordings, and they want to be compensated. Apparently, Google/YouTube is too busy cracking down on people who use their favorite bands' songs in their tribute videos to notice that this kind of stuff is being uploaded: I guess they're cool with your threatening to kill as long as your music is original.




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Response to rocktivity (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:02 AM

29. Rick Ross was also sued over his stage name in 2010

 

By the former LA drug dealer Freeway Rick Ross, whose name the rapper adopted as his own.

Also clicked on the link about the GD threat. Apparently the offending song appeared on a mixtape titled 'Black Bar Mitzvah.'

If that ain't gangster, I don't know what is . . .

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Response to RZM (Reply #29)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:25 PM

32. The Gangster Disciples use the six-pointed star as part of their logo

As this video explains:




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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:21 AM

22. Gang culture is intertwined with segments of the rap culture

there are many rappers that proudly display their present or past gang affiliations. It is a sometimes explosive combination.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:54 PM

54. they are not fake fucks brought up by Disneyland to fill your afternoon drive hour?

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #54)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:08 AM

58. So what you appear to be saying

is that if you don't shoot people, you're a fake fuck?

Reread what you wrote. That doesn't seem a little bit idiotic to you?

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Response to Laurian (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:40 AM

63. This had nothing to do with rap music

This was two rival pimps. Granted, rap music contains far more than its share of both violence and misogyny, but this had way more to do with "disrespect" and/or business than music. Furthermore, I'd suggest that most rap music is a reflection of attitudes, rather than the cause of attitudes.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:05 PM

5. rap is c-r-a-p

 

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but without the "c" and with no selective preference regarding ethnicity. Ole kenny in the clutch of his mas today it seems....gone to rap heaven to rap with tupac shaker no doubt...

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:09 PM

6. This incident seems to have killed people not

connected to the rapper. I can't understand the blatant disregard for human life. Sad, just sad.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:05 AM

30. Nobody on DU cares about them

 

Because they weren't shot.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #30)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:59 PM

74. If you dislike DU so much why do you stick around? Seriously, I've seen you trash

this place and it's members practically non-stop since a dozen or so of your pro-NRA pals down in the Gungeon were PPR'd, and yet you're still here.

What gives?

I know if I disliked and disdained a place as much as you do DU, I'd probably find a new place to hang out.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:10 PM

7. Years ago when I moved to Vegas,

one of my neighbors, probably in her 70s, who had lived in the city for decades was the first person I heard say what I call the Vegas Mantra: "Things were better when the mob ran the city."

A couple of years later I watched a documentary about Las Vegas and Debbie Reynolds - sweet, butter-wouldn't-melt-in-her-mouth Debbie Reynolds - said "When the mob ran things nobody got killed that wasn't supposed to be killed."

This morning, hearing about the taxi driver and passenger who were collateral damage in this rolling shootout, I started to believe the Mantra.

*note - I'm not saying that that Clutch deserved to/should have died, but I know damn well that taxi driver and passenger had nothing to do with whatever feud was happening

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:17 PM

9. here's Kenny Clutch and apparently the Maserati involved in the shooting

**Warning: graphic language**

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:12 AM

17. This megalomaniac shit sucks more than my Dyson.

Why anyone spends time immersed in this surreal, cocky, fake-hero bullshit is beyond me. This truly ranks right up there with all of the other self-obsessed crap that is a sign of the times. I sure hope that there was more to this fellow than this video suggests.

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #9)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:23 AM

57. The comments on that video thread

Can lower anybody's IQ by 20 points for every 5 minutes reading them.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:40 PM

10. one more case of assault gun violence

Ban them now!

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:22 AM

12. How long before they catch the shooter?

I'm thinking it won't take very long to look at the tapes and figure out who was driving the SUV.

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Response to mokawanis (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:50 AM

23. I'm certain the LVPD will assign an army of detectives to the case

and we'll come to a quick conclusion

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:02 AM

24. Why the sarcasm?

Vegas lives on tourism and I suspect there's a tremendous amount of pressure on Metro (not LVPD, no such thing) to find the shooter(s) and make the casinos happy.

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Response to kiva (Reply #24)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:13 AM

25. Well, like the mafia killings of yesteryear that another poster already mentioned

The detectives will probably dismiss it as a "he-probably-had-it-coming" -kind of cultural self-policing...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #25)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:57 PM

36. The mob owned the casinos,

and had a vested interest in keeping tourists happy and coming to the city - they did not have violent shootouts that endangered bystanders...a pipe bomb here or there, but mostly very quiet enforcement that did not alarm or injure tourists. These jerks don't give a damn about the city or tourism or the casinos, so I suspect Metro will be on it no matter what they believe about the culture.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:18 AM

13. Somehow I doubt the NRA will claim this could've been prevented by arming all rappers

just a hunch

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:52 AM

15. When I heard about the crash, I said it was probably a rapper; I was thinking back on this news:

Link:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=8971467

January 28, 2013 (CHICAGO) (WLS) -- There is no shortage of suspects in Monday's assassination attempt on well-known rap star Rick Ross. And they all lead back to Chicago.

Ross survived a shooting ambush in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, Monday morning.

The worst kept secret in the rap world has been a dispute between Ross and the Chicago-based Gangster Disciples. Ross was apparently targeted by gang leaders after he used some of their signs, symbols and logos without paying them the required fees.

Over the past few months, gang members have posted video death threats against the rapper on YouTube. Monday, a hit squad opened fire on Ross in South Florida.

There was a spray of gunfire just before daybreak on the silver Rolls Royce being driven by rapper Rick Ross, stage name for William L. Roberts.

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Response to lexw (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:03 AM

16. yup.

when i heard it was a dark SUV firing on a masarati, I thought it must be hip hop macho bullshit. I've never heard of this guy before, and i don't care to know about any of these so-called celebrates. I just wish and hope that media will someday focus on the stupidity. Maybe when the media is not so stupid itself.
Huck Finn rules!

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Response to Diyames (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:08 AM

40. Read it many times. :)

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Response to lexw (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:43 AM

43. What a shame to ruin a perfectly good Rolls.

I suggest that Ross pay them what he owes them, next time they may have better aim.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:32 AM

26. they couldn't ID the shooters car "black Range Rover " from security video?

I hope they catch the shooter.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:45 AM

28. I've never heard of him

 

Tragic waste of life, no doubt.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:39 AM

47. Taxi passenger killed on the Las Vegas Strip identified

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The taxi passenger killed when a shooting led to a crash on the Las Vegas Strip Thursday morning has been identified by her family.

She was Sandi Sutton, a resident of Washington state. Sutton's family released the following statement:

"Sandi was a loving wife, mother, daughter and sister. Her innocent and tragic loss will be felt by all of those who knew and loved her and by the community at large. Her family appreciates the outpouring of love and support, and respect for privacy shown throughout this very difficult time."

Sutton worked for the Maple Valley-Black Diamond Chamber of Commerce, located in a suburb southeast of Seattle. According to the chamber's website, Sutton served on the board of directors from 2004 to 2011 before becoming a marketing representative.

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/192622491.html

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Response to Bosonic (Reply #47)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:25 PM

55. Thank you for calling attention to the tragic death of Sandi and two others.

Simply a beautiful human being caught in the aftermath of the murder of a rapper I never heard of.

May she and the other innocent victims rest in peace.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:36 PM

49. If he was only an "up and coming" rapper, where did he get the Maserati money?

...(Clutch's) father, Kenneth Cherry Sr., held a news conference Saturday and defended his son, calling him a victim and a good kid who only played a tough guy in YouTube videos...(H)is attorney...told a reporter Cherry was no gang member..."He was a loyal, dependable friend, and we at the law firm will miss him."

Cherry had a few minor brushes with local law enforcement...Despite having no visible means of income, he drove a Maserati and stayed in a $2,900-a-month condominium...According to court documents, Cherry was a stone pimp who beat his women and spent the money they earned turning tricks in Strip casinos...Before...the mother of one of his children...ran away...(he) pimped her out and beat her often...(W)orking six nights a week...her evening quota was $1,500...

(S)ave your tears for cabdriver Boldon and passenger Sutton-Wasmund, whose devastated family members will deal with their loss the rest of their lives. Then say a prayer for all the women of the night who, for reasons most of us can't fully comprehend, find themselves under the pimp's spell.

Oh. $1500 a night, times six nights a week, times only ONE of the girls in his stable -- THAT'S where he got the Maserati money.


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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:45 PM

52. SUV, suspect identified in shooting that led to death of Oakland rapper Kenny Clutch

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Police announced Saturday that they have identified an SUV and a suspect in the shooting death of an Oakland rapper on the Las Vegas Strip, which led to a fatal car crash involving a Maserati and taxi...(A) black Range Rover SUV was found...at an apartment complex east of the Strip and has since been impounded as evidence.

Police are looking for 26-year-old Ammar Harris, who they believed fired the shots in the incident early Thursday. Harris' arrest history in Las Vegas, which is extensive and violent, according to police, includes charges of kidnapping and pandering...

Kidnapping? Pandering? We now know that Clutch was a pimp who kept his prostitutes in different apartments -- was Harris one of his "stable hands"? Maybe this was a John Gotti-style "hostile takeover."


Cherry was involved in an argument (that) police...believe to have started in the valet parking area of the Aria Resort. The shooting happened the same night that Morocco-born rapper French Montana was playing at Aria's signature nightclub, Haze.

This May, Montana is releasing his first studio album on Maybach Records, which is owned by -- wait for it!!! -- Rick Ross! For a local up-and-comer, being seen with Montana at the show (never mind being one of opening acts) would have been a big step forward in terms of getting national attention. Maybe the argument broke out because the club knew the real deal about him and refused to let him perform. (link)


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #52)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:17 AM

56. DING DING DING! Rocktivity, you're our grand prize winner!

We now know that Clutch was a pimp who kept his prostitutes in different apartments -- was Harris one of his "stable hands"? Maybe this was a John Gotti-style "hostile takeover."

If we presume for the sake of discussion Kenneth Sr. didn't know his son was a pimp, the father needn't have looked far for confirmation. He could have asked...Asmayit "May" Hagos. She lived with Cherry Jr., and her arrest record indicates she worked for him...She also attended that news conference...

Surely Hagos will want to fill in the grieving father on...whether Kenny Clutch had had a falling out with his former late-night running mate, Ammar "Ash" Harris...
link

Hooray for me.


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #56)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:01 PM

61. The rapper was a pimp?????

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Response to Beacool (Reply #61)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:02 PM

62. He wasn't sufficiently successful as a rapper to afford the kind of car he was driving

 

Nor are his parents wealthy.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #62)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:25 AM

64. Thanks for the explanation.

I hate pimps, they use and abuse women for their own profit.

I'm sorry that the innocent victims in the taxi died and that others were injured.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:18 PM

59. Police seek woman as 'person of interest' in Strip shooting

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Detectives...released photographs of Tineesha Howard, 22, who also is known as Yenesis Alfonzo...she can be seen posing several times with the shooting suspect, Ammar Harris...with big smiles across their faces. Howard...has a lengthy arrest record on charges of solicitation for prostitution, grand larceny trick rolling, possession of a stolen vehicle and trespassing, said...a spokesman with the Metropolitan Police Department. She was last seen with Harris and could still be with him...

Asmayit "May" Hagos, 22, the girlfriend who had a baby with the rapper two months ago, said Cherry Jr. "never exchanged a word" with Harris. At least according to his close friends, he didn't, she said. She...called a press conference Tuesday and denied rumors that Cherry Jr. was a pimp and that she was his prostitute. "He never controlled me," she said. She met Cherry Jr. three years ago at a Las Vegas club where he was performing...Hagos has an arrest record that includes solicitation for prostitution, grand larceny trick rolling, and trespassing...(Her) most recent arrest on prostitution charges came a year ago in Houston.

Where did he get the money to afford the Maserati and the expensive pair of apartments he lived in at the Meridian just off the Strip and in Newport Lofts in downtown Las Vegas? His father, Kenneth Cherry Sr...said the family is "very wealthy" on his wife's side from real estate investments. He said his son's great-grandmother lives on Telegraph Hill, a posh area of San Francisco. (S)he doesn't know what's going on, he said. "She's saying, 'Where's my little Kenny?'"...

- See more at: http://www.lvrj.com/news/police-seek-woman-as-person-of-interest-in-strip-shooting-193421691.html#sthash.nRWtKSPc.dpuf

Real estate investments -- a perfect way to launder pimp money. If great-grandma doesn't know what's going on, she probably doesn't know if she was financing him. And if he could afford two high-rent homes in Las Vegas, he could certainly have afforded one in Los Angeles, a far more logical place to have operated his musical hip-hop career.


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #59)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:46 PM

60. This story had legs and keeps on walking ....

in fascinating new directions.

Was he both a pimp and a trust fund baby? If he wasn't serious about his career, Vegas would be a great place to be.

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #59)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:13 PM

65. Woman sought in Strip shooting found, confirms 'I'm fine' on Instagram

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The 22-year-old woman who police identified as a "person of interest" earlier this week in the Feb. 21 fatal Strip shooting and fiery crash has been located by homicide detectives...

Earlier this morning, someone posting from an Instagram account payyeni, wrote: "thank you everyone who took the time out of their day to text/call/ig/facebook me. i'm truly sorry for everyone's loss ..."

Las Vegas police on Tuesday identified Yenesis Alfonzo, also known as Tineesha Lashun Howard, as a passenger in Ammar Harris' Range Rover...(she is) no longer sought as a person of interest and no longer considered a missing person...(P)olice previously found and interviewed two other women who were with Howard in Harris' black Range Rover SUV during the shooting...

"There is no other person wanted in this case other than Harris," Jones said. "No one else faces charges."

Sounds to me like an arrest is imminent. If none of Harris' passengers were even threatened with charges of being an accessory, he either let them out and kept going, or they talked. Unless the two of them are already in Mexico, where they should have no trouble earning a living...

See more at: http://www.lvrj.com/news/las-vegas-police-locate-woman-sought-in-strip-shooting-193867631.html#sthash.mgtG2AQu.dpuf


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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:37 PM

66. (Las Vegas) shooting suspect who bragged about life as a pimp now on the run

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The suspect in three deaths on the Strip bragged openly about his life as a pimp on social media websites, where he instructed his prostitutes and recruited new girls...He flaunted expensive cars...and reveled in luxury homes in two of the country's most glamorous cities...Tweet by tweet, post by post, Harris meticulously documented the life of a pimp, creating a virtual diary for the world to see.

It had been a rough week in Miami for Harris (in early December 2012). He was arrested...by the Miami Beach Police Department...for driving without a license...He was released from jail the next morning, only to be shot later that day...Harris wrote...from his hospital room..."(He) shot me, but aint kill me...biggest mistake..." The circumstances of the shooting are unclear - Miami-Dade police say they have no record of the incident.

His final post came two days before last Thursday morning's shooting...

A motive is beginning to take shape: If Harris and Clutch were rival pimps, maybe their argument in front of a nightclub preceding the shooting had to do with whose girls would be "working" the concert going on inside. And I thought hospitals were required by law to report ALL gunshot wounds to the police.

See more at: http://www.lvrj.com/news/las-vegas-strip-shooting-suspect-who-bragged-about-life-as-pimp-now-on-run-193468461.html#sthash.sBQgsCFV.dpuf


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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:28 PM

67. Las Vegas shooting suspect has been arrested in L.A.

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Response to rollin74 (Reply #67)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:08 PM

68. Family members still mourning expressed relief that Harris was arrested

"I'm ecstatic," said Tehran Boldon, 50, on Thursday. He bid farewell to his brother on Wednesday at a church in North Las Vegas, where Michael Boldon, the cab driver, was carried away in a silver casket. "The sooner they caught him the better. And I'm really happy that they got him alive. That was really important to me and my family. Now he's going to have to face the music, and it won't be rap, either."

From Maple Valley, Wash., Sue VanRuff, a good friend of Sutton-Wasmund, said the entire community is "heartbroken," but that at least now there might be some justice. "I'm glad the police caught up with him," said VanRuff, executive director of the Greater Maple Valley/Black Diamond Chamber of Commerce, where Sutton-Wasmund worked as an independent contractor. "And we look forward to justice." Sutton-Wasmund was in Las Vegas attending a trade show...

http://www.lvrj.com/news/strip-shooting-suspect-arrested-193966081.html

And I'll bet the reason why the police caught up with Harris so quickly is because they told the surviving passengers that if they didn't rat him out, they'd be facing charges of obstructing justice at best and being an accessory after the fact at worst.


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Response to rollin74 (Reply #67)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:09 PM

69. We really need to be easy on the guy

Sure, people are dead, but something something growing up in a ghetto is like beating a mountain lion with a stick so it is society's fault not his.

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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:13 PM

71. Arrest report details Las Vegas Strip shooting

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Harris was arrested about noon Thursday in Studio City in Los Angeles...at an apartment with a woman believed to be a prostitute...

Las Vegas police said the carnage began with an argument in the valet parking area...at Aria's Haze nightclub...(for)...a performance by rapper French Montana...The police report said Harris arrived at the Aria about 1:30 a.m. with three women. They were escorted into the Haze nightclub. Cherry and Walters arrived shortly before 4 a.m., and were in Cherry's Maserati leaving the valet only 15 minutes later.

...Harris approached the driver's door of Cherry's Maserati, paused for a second or two, and then continued into the Aria...It is believed a prostitute was at the center of their exchange.

A taxi surveillance camera recorded the sounds of two gunshots at 4:19 a.m. and 4:24 a.m. Shortly after, three more gunshots were heard on the video...Freddy Walters, 26, the passenger in Cherry's Maserati, was shot in the arm, and transported to UMC...

So it was a pimp war. And Kenny Clutch's poor little rich father is going to have to face the truth now. After taxes, legal fees, child support, and any civil actions against his son's assets, there probably won't be much of an estate left.

See more at: http://www.lvrj.com/news/strip-shooting-suspect-arrested-193966081.html#sthash.aoVB0B7K.dpuf


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #71)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:48 PM

72. The father is not liable for the crimes of the son.

I don't know how much he gave towards Kenny's support, but unless he is involved with the pimping, too .....

These events reminded me of this famous song from "Hustle and Flow":



and I glad the shooter is caught, in jail, and there are several witnesses that were in his car to his shooting.

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Response to kwassa (Reply #72)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:56 PM

73. If he helped turn his son's "income" into the "real estate investments"

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he claims his wife's family has, he can certainly be charged with money laundering.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. If Cherry was on the up-and-up, proving is it as simple as producing the money trail!


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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:01 PM

75. The temptation at this stage will be to blame the *real* victim here: the precious gun.

We must resist that temptation, and seek guidance in the voice and wisdom of our cherished spokesman Wayne LaPierre, amen.


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Response to kwassa (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:30 PM

76. Original Gangsta Johnny Cash shot a man in Reno Just to watch Him Die

 

When you have people glorifying guns, it goes without saying

as Gangsta Waylon Jennings sang
(c)
Dontcha think this outlaw bit, done got out of hand (and on some versions the B was replaced by a SH)

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and don't forget Original Gangsta's Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton took to the streets
and like the rapper in the story, had a shoot out with each other.


If I remember correct, Ronald Reagan paroled Original Gangsta Merle Haggard from San Quenton

and I remember parents going nuts over their kids listening to Original Gangsta Elvis and the four Gangsta Beatles

A poem does not need music.

Now, not making a comment on this particular incident, and not glorifying violence

In fact, MOST rap doesn't glorify violence. It is like today's 6pm news.
it tells stories about life

there is something very unsettling about this entire thread coming from a democratic board.
very unsettling.(to no one specific, just in general).

Especially though as the dead person was the VICTIM not the perpetrator of anything at all.

but what do I know.

I don't think though Reno is too far from Vegas is it?

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #76)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:05 PM

78. Reno is 453 miles from Vegas ..

according to Google maps, 7 hours 10 minutes driving time.

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