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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 05:58 PM

Cherokee elders push to free bears at private zoos

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Source: AP

By MITCH WEISS, Associated Press
Updated 8:29 am, Saturday, February 16, 2013

CHEROKEE, N.C. (AP) — Peggy Hill was outraged. After watching a video of bears endlessly circling their tiny enclosures at a privately owned zoo on a Cherokee Indian reservation, she knew she had to act.
Hill and other members of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians began pressing the tribal council to force that zoo and two others on the reservation to free the bears.
Now it appears Eastern Band leaders are ready to tackle the issue.

Picture of Peggy Hill



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/Cherokee-elders-push-to-free-bears-at-private-zoos-4284336.php



The USDA last month suspended the Chief Saunooke Bear Park's exhibitor's license and fined the owner $20,000 over inhumane conditions. Inspectors found that the zoo was failing to provide the bears with appropriate food, proper veterinary care and a safe enclosure.




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Reply Cherokee elders push to free bears at private zoos (Original post)
littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 OP
iandhr Feb 2013 #1
littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #2
iandhr Feb 2013 #8
littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #9
Omaha Steve Feb 2013 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #4
littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #5
ThoughtCriminal Feb 2013 #6
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littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #7
paleotn Feb 2013 #10
paleotn Feb 2013 #11
Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #12
Flaxbee Feb 2013 #13
littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #14
pasto76 Feb 2013 #15
maindawg Feb 2013 #16
mtasselin Feb 2013 #17
Iggo Feb 2013 #18
RobertEarl Feb 2013 #21
Iggo Feb 2013 #23
dlwickham Feb 2013 #19
B-ONE Lancer Feb 2013 #20
retrogal Feb 2013 #22

Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:01 PM

1. Don't tell Colbert

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Response to iandhr (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:01 PM

2. What an idea!!! eom

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:29 PM

8. Your right.

Something needs to be done.

Bears are the greatest threat to America.

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Response to iandhr (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:32 PM

9. Wadda Yank. eom

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:07 PM

3. I'm one proud member of the Cherokee Tribe TODAY!!!


K&R! Thanks for posting.

OS

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:08 PM

4. I interpreted the post title a little differently -

that you could go to a private zoo and get a free bear.

Seriously, I hope these poor bears can be set free.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:09 PM

5. Thank you. n/t

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:18 PM

6. Better than my weary eyes

I saw "Bear"... read "Beer".

Private zoo, bears, free beer. What could go wrong?

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Response to ThoughtCriminal (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:34 PM

10. Ha!.....

...A little....Maybe...

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:37 PM

11. Yea, Cherokee!!!

...salutes and waves from up the mountains a little bit. Now do the right thing and shut down the private "zoos."

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 06:38 PM

12. Great idea.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:00 PM

13. I used to live about 30 minutes from Cherokee; got so I wouldn't go there

or take guests there - once I knew what was going on with their animals.

I really hope the elders force the tribe to end this practice.

Next, they need to kick the evangelists out, and tell Harrah's to raise wages or go f*ck themselves.

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Response to Flaxbee (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:09 PM

14. Thank you. n/t

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:21 PM

15. a lot of the behaviors you see bears doing are symptoms of neurosis

there was a bear in pittsburgh that used to totter from left feet to right feet for hours. Lots of animals in zoos go nutty from lack of stimulating environment. 'natural enclosures' arent soley to make you feel like you are looking at animals in their natural environs, it is also to help their mental health, and how long they draw a crowd.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:14 PM

16. Been to a few zoo's.

I dont think they are a healthy environment for these animals. They can do better.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:08 PM

17. Thanks

It is about time someone steps forward to end this bullshit.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:54 PM

18. Can you free a bear into the wild...

...that's already gone insane from living in a zoo?

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Response to Iggo (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:43 PM

21. NO

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 12:48 AM

23. That's what I thought.

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Response to littlemissmartypants (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:11 PM

20. MY HERITAGE

 

A Cherokee Legend
In the long ago time, there was a Cherokee Clan called the Ani-Tsa-gu-hi (Ahnee-Jah-goo-hee), and in one family of this clan was a boy who used to leave home and be gone all day in the mountains.

After awhile he went more often and stayed longer, until at last he would not eat in the house at all, starting off at daybreak and not coming back until night.

His parents scolded, but that did no good, and the boy still went every day until they noticed that long brown hair was beginning to grow out all over his body. Then they wondered and asked him why it was that he wanted to be so much in the woods that he would not even eat at home.

Said the boy, "I find plenty to eat there, and it is better than the corn and beans we have in the settlements, and pretty soon I am going into the woods to say all the time."

His parents were worried and begged him not leave them, but he said, "It is better there than here, and you see I am beginning to be different already, so that I can not live here any longer. If you will come with me, there is plenty for all of us and you will never have to work for it; but if you want to come, you must first fast seven days."

The father and mother talked it over and then told the headmen of the clan. They held a council about the matter and after everything had been said they decided: "Here we must work hard and have not always enough. There he says is always plenty without work. We will go with him."

So they fasted seven days, and on the seventh morning al the Ani-Tsa-gu-hi left the settlement and started for the mountains as the boy led the way.

When the people of the other towns heard of it they were very sorry and sent their headmen to persuade the Ani-Tsa-gu-hi to stay at home and not go into the woods to live. The messengers found them already on the way, and were surprised to notice that their bodies were beginning to be covered with hair like that of animals, because for seven days they had not taken human food and their nature was changing.

The Ani-Tsa-gu-hi would not come back, but said, "We are going where there is always plenty to eat. From now on, we shall be called Yonva (bears), and when you yourselves are hungry come into the woods and call us and we shall come to give you our own flesh. You need not be afraid to kill us, for we shall live always."

Then they taught the messengers the songs with which to call them and bear hunters have these songs still. When they had finished the songs, the Ani-Tsa-gu-hi started on again and the messengers turned back to the settlements, but after going a little way they looked back and saw a drove of bears going into the woods.


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Response to B-ONE Lancer (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 12:12 AM

22. I have never heard that before...

thanks for posting it.

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