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Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:24 AM

Suburban police officers allowed to work 'half-drunk,' Chicago investigation reveals

Source: NBC News.com

Many suburban Chicago departments actually have clauses in their union contracts which prevent any kind of discipline for officers with substantial amounts of alcohol in their systems -- even those nearing the state definition of legally drunk, an investigation by the Better Government Association and NBC Chicago reveals.

Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/15/16974464-suburban-police-officers-allowed-to-work-half-drunk-chicago-investigation-reveals?lite

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Reply Suburban police officers allowed to work 'half-drunk,' Chicago investigation reveals (Original post)
damnedifIknow Feb 2013 OP
Blandocyte Feb 2013 #1
Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #2
damnedifIknow Feb 2013 #6
dotymed Feb 2013 #3
damnedifIknow Feb 2013 #9
truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #4
Skittles Feb 2013 #5
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #7
valerief Feb 2013 #8
timdog44 Feb 2013 #10
Javaman Feb 2013 #11
frylock Feb 2013 #12
Brickbat Feb 2013 #13
alp227 Feb 2013 #14
KansDem Feb 2013 #15
Dustlawyer Feb 2013 #16

Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:35 AM

1. Police offiswerves. n/t

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:39 AM

2. So they can bust someone for DUI while being intoxicated?! Fucking hypocrites. nt

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:04 PM

6. I was thinking the same thing.

They can haul a person off to jail for being a hair over the limit while they can enjoy another "beverage."

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:46 AM

3. Of course police officers should not be allowed to work

if they are inebriated.
I think this story has more to do with Unions than drinking.
Just as there are many antiquated laws on the books that have never been challenged, I suspect that this is an antiquated section of a Union contract.
"Right to Work (for low pay)" crusaders are attempting to stir a controversy about Unions. If there had been an issue about a policeman/woman working under the influence, this clause may have been an issue...
I am certain that the Union would happily "sacrifice" that clause in their contract. Instead, "they" have made it out as a Union thing...."Unions are evil" seems to be the message.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:53 PM

9. I'm extremely pro union

but this clause in this contract needs to be purged and that goes for any police dept.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 11:53 AM

4. Excuse me ossifer, but are you under the affluence of inkohol?

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:02 PM

5. the kind of crap that gives unions bad names

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Response to Skittles (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:12 PM

7. Yep

This kind if story gets cited by co-workers any time unions are discussed.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:28 PM

8. They're like bankers--unarrestable. nt

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:28 PM

10. This gives

unions and police a bad name. It also is scary as hell. Then I went to the link supplied by the OP and saw the BALs of other workers and was even more alarmed. Public transportation vehicle operators and nuclear plant operators have allowable levels at .04. Ridiculous.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 03:02 PM

11. "half-drunk"? is that like being a little pregnant? nt

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:33 PM

12. gawd bless the police. our drunken blue knights.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:36 PM

13. Gosh, if a city thinks that union contracts with these clauses in them is bad,

then maybe they shouldn't sign the fucking contracts.

ETA: Also, "prevents any kind of discipline"? I'd like to see the language.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:02 PM

14. I almost made a snarky "Chicago Politics" remark until reading the article.

These PDs aren't in the city proper but rather in outlying suburbs. So I don't know if Chicago corruption even applies.

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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:19 PM

15. Now remember, this also means they were "half sober"

Kinda puts this in a whole new light, doesn't it?!!


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Response to damnedifIknow (Original post)

Fri Feb 15, 2013, 06:33 PM

16. Maybe covers for medications with alcohol in them. With zero tolerance you could be

fired for 1 dose of cough medication.

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