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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:39 PM

Iraq war plan based on 'primitive' grasp of Islam, admits Labour frontbencher

Source: Guardian

Labour has conceded for the first time that a "primitive understanding" of the Islamic world caused some of the problems faced by the west in Iraq and Afghanistan, and warned David Cameron his response to the terrorist crisis in north Africa shows he has not learned the painful lessons from those conflicts.

In a speech on Thursday, Jim Murphy, the shadow defence secretary, will suggest the Blair government did not appreciate what it was getting itself into after the September 11 attacks, as British forces joined the international effort to overthrow the Taliban and hunt down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network.

Murphy will stop short of saying Labour was wrong to have supported the invasions, but will say Cameron is in danger of ignoring lessons from the past in his analysis of the jihadist threat in Mali and Algeria.

In particular, he will criticise the prime minister for a speech in which he said the UK faces a "generational struggle" against Islamist-inspired terrorism in the region.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/13/iraq-war-islam-labour

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dipsydoodle Feb 2013 OP
sakabatou Feb 2013 #1
kardonb Feb 2013 #4
Posteritatis Feb 2013 #2
magellan Feb 2013 #3
OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #5
magellan Feb 2013 #6

Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:50 PM

1. Mr. Murphy, did you just realize this?

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:25 PM

4. murphy

Mr. Murphy is spot on . If anyone thinks for lone minute they can transform the Middle East into a Democracy , they are fooliing themselves . The Islamic world is culturally and philosophically not predisposed for a democratic government . WHEN will the West finally realize this fact !

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:54 PM

2. I wouldn't say their grasp was *that* good. (nt)

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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:18 PM

3. There wasn't any "Iraq war plan"

That was the problem.

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Response to magellan (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:36 PM

5. Sure, there was a plan.

Step One: Start a war based on lies.

Step Two: Profit!

Step Three: ???

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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:41 PM

6. You're right

They did manage to put a little thought into it, didn't they?

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