Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:39 PM
dipsydoodle (32,679 posts)
Iraq war plan based on 'primitive' grasp of Islam, admits Labour frontbencher
Source: Guardian
Labour has conceded for the first time that a "primitive understanding" of the Islamic world caused some of the problems faced by the west in Iraq and Afghanistan, and warned David Cameron his response to the terrorist crisis in north Africa shows he has not learned the painful lessons from those conflicts. In a speech on Thursday, Jim Murphy, the shadow defence secretary, will suggest the Blair government did not appreciate what it was getting itself into after the September 11 attacks, as British forces joined the international effort to overthrow the Taliban and hunt down Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network. Murphy will stop short of saying Labour was wrong to have supported the invasions, but will say Cameron is in danger of ignoring lessons from the past in his analysis of the jihadist threat in Mali and Algeria. In particular, he will criticise the prime minister for a speech in which he said the UK faces a "generational struggle" against Islamist-inspired terrorism in the region. Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/13/iraq-war-islam-labour
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| dipsydoodle | Feb 2013 | OP | |
| sakabatou | Feb 2013 | #1 | |
| kardonb | Feb 2013 | #4 | |
| Posteritatis | Feb 2013 | #2 | |
| magellan | Feb 2013 | #3 | |
| OnyxCollie | Feb 2013 | #5 | |
| magellan | Feb 2013 | #6 |
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:50 PM
sakabatou (29,096 posts)
1. Mr. Murphy, did you just realize this?
Response to sakabatou (Reply #1)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:25 PM
kardonb (327 posts)
4. murphy
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Mr. Murphy is spot on . If anyone thinks for lone minute they can transform the Middle East into a Democracy , they are fooliing themselves . The Islamic world is culturally and philosophically not predisposed for a democratic government . WHEN will the West finally realize this fact !
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:54 PM
Posteritatis (17,299 posts)
2. I wouldn't say their grasp was *that* good. (nt)
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:18 PM
magellan (12,539 posts)
3. There wasn't any "Iraq war plan"
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That was the problem.
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Response to magellan (Reply #3)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:36 PM
OnyxCollie (6,572 posts)
5. Sure, there was a plan.
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Step One: Start a war based on lies.
Step Two: Profit! Step Three: ??? |
Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #5)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 11:41 PM
magellan (12,539 posts)
6. You're right
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They did manage to put a little thought into it, didn't they?
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