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Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:19 PM

 

Pentagon creates new medal for extraordinary work by cyber, drone warriors

Source: AP

WASHINGTON —They fight the war from computer consoles and video screens.

But the troops that launch the drone strikes and direct the cyberattacks that can kill or disable an enemy may never set foot in the combat zone. Now, defense officials say, their battlefield contributions may be recognized.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta is expected to announce Wednesday that for the first time the Pentagon is creating a medal that can be awarded to troops who have a direct impact on combat operations, but do it from afar.

The Associated Press has learned that the new blue, red and white-ribboned Distinguished Warfare Medal will be awarded to individuals for “extraordinary achievement” related to a military operation that occurred after Sept. 11, 2001. But unlike other combat medals, it does not require the recipient risk his or her life to get it.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pentagon-creates-new-medal-to-for-extraordinary-work-by-cyber-drone-warriors/2013/02/13/a0e104e4-75fe-11e2-9889-60bfcbb02149_story.html

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Reply Pentagon creates new medal for extraordinary work by cyber, drone warriors (Original post)
UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 OP
denverbill Feb 2013 #1
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #10
denverbill Feb 2013 #13
triplepoint Feb 2013 #19
They_Live Feb 2013 #2
levp Feb 2013 #5
Bigmack Feb 2013 #3
ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2013 #4
AsahinaKimi Feb 2013 #6
Locrian Feb 2013 #7
jerseyjack Feb 2013 #8
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #12
Raine1967 Feb 2013 #16
UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #23
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #9
Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #11
migsan Feb 2013 #14
Fuddnik Feb 2013 #15
Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #20
UnrepentantLiberal Feb 2013 #22
Victor_c3 Feb 2013 #27
eggplant Feb 2013 #17
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #18
Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #21
pasto76 Feb 2013 #24
IDemo Feb 2013 #25
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blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #26

Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:24 PM

1. Why not just give them World of Warcraft points or something?

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Response to denverbill (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:10 PM

10. Unlock achievment

Little Achmed's first coffin.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:25 PM

13. Yeah, or maybe a drone flying mount that you mount backwards, like Slim Pickens in Dr Strangelove.

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Response to denverbill (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:15 PM

19. Great Idea

 

But you still can't fight in the "War Room."
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Here's what I'd like to see made into a medal for these armchair lightening bolt tossers:

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:28 PM

2. I really thought

that this was going to be an Onion article.

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Response to They_Live (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:35 PM

5. FunnyOrDie did this

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:33 PM

3. Wait until you see the purple hearts ....

..coming out of this.

"thumb-lock"... "screen hypnosis"...

Seriously, though. Those guys may have a lot of nighttime reminders of their jobs in the future years.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:33 PM

4. Culture of death.

God help us.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:51 PM

6. so maybe something like this?

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 03:58 PM

7. a golden "cheeto"? nt

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:02 PM

8. In Fairness,

 

The suicide rate for drone pilots is higher than that of other military personnel.

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Response to jerseyjack (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:17 PM

12. I have five or six different

possible replies to this fact. All of them will get my post pulled.

Is it ever possible that we will raise a generation of children who will not confirm the Milgram Experiment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Personally, I believe the minimum age for military service should be raised to 35, and the top age raised to 70.

The draft should be brought back, and politicians should NOT be exempt.

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Response to jerseyjack (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:58 PM

16. I didn't know this. Could you provide

a place for me to further research this?

Thanks in advance.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:46 PM

23. I hadn't heard that either.

 

Is it sarcasm?

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:07 PM

9. And in other news....

Einsatzkommandos really, really pissed off that they didn't live in today's America.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:14 PM

11. Why don't they make awards for doing anything constructive?

I got my BSM and ACROM-V for combat action. However, I've never seen anyone get an award for doing anything like building a school or doing a kick-ass job supporting a civilian hospital when I was in Iraq.

Despite all the talk of the Army winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people and spreading democracy and being a force of "fairness" used to end the oppression of the Iraq people, the Army only does a good job rewarding killing people.

I got a stellar officer evaluation report because of my lethality as an Infantry Platoon Leader when I was in Iraq. It only mentions in passing the constructive working relationships I built with my Iraqi Army counterparts and it never mentions any of the instances where I actually helped anyone or did anything positive. I really should scan and post it. It is sickening and disturbing to read my actions in cold hard numbers and sterile military terminology. Those actions sure aren't so cold and sterile in my memories...

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Response to Victor_c3 (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:38 PM

14. awards such as......

Good Conduct Medal
humanitarian service medal
Letter of Commendation
Letter of Appreciation

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Response to migsan (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:43 PM

15. Good Conduct Medal.

Hey, I managed to stay out of the Brig or Stockade during my service.

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Response to migsan (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:29 PM

20. yet I never received any of those

except the good conduct medal. Don't get in trouble for 5 years and get one of those things...

humanitarian service medal was never issued when I was in Iraq. You got an ARCOM, ARCOM-V, BSM, BSM-V, Silver Star, or Distinguished Service Cross (one of those was awarded from my company in Fallujah) - and you only got medals for killing people or dying. I lost a Bradley Fighting Vehicle and 5 of the 7 guys in it were killed. The two guys who lived through the ordeal were awarded ARCOMs while the 5 guys who died all received BSMs. The only difference between the actions of the two groups was that one of the groups lived and the other died.

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Response to Victor_c3 (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:44 PM

22. I never know what to say that doesn't sound trite.

 

Is it OK to say thank you for your service? I'm sorry for the lose of your guys.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Reply #22)

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 05:54 AM

27. Thanks for the sentiment

To make a long story short, I've actually come to terms with that incident quite a while back. I had the opportunity to meet the families of 4 of the 5 guys who died and that did a lot.

Shortly after we got back from Iraq in 2005, my division (1st Infantry Division) put together a memorial at their division headquarters for all of the guys lost during our year in Iraq. Money was raised and the family members of the deceased were flown out to Germany for a couple of days to attend the dedication ceremony. Some of the senior sergeants in my platoon put together a BBQ where we had the opportunity to share stories and the memories of the people in my platoon who died.

I have a lot of PTSD and guilt issues surrounding the my time in Iraq but, for whatever reason, my mind is actually at ease with the loss of my Soldiers in my platoon.

Thanks again for your sentiments. I don't know what I would say to someone in my position either.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:13 PM

17. Wait, I thought they just entered their initials when they got a high score? Isn't that enough? n/t

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:53 PM

18. Rec'ing because people need to see this.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:32 PM

21. "The Order of the Nintendo with Dorito Cluster."

Thanks for the thread, UnrepententLiberal.

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:46 PM

24. Army Times is reporting this award will be higher than a Bronze Star

bronze star is frequently awarded for actions in the combat zone, combat and non combat. But you are physically in harms way. Sitting safe and sound in a simulator, stateside...this should be, maybe, the same level as an ARCOM

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Response to UnrepentantLiberal (Original post)

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:58 PM

25. The Screen Beret?

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