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Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:35 PM

House Dems To Bring Victims Of Gun Violence To State Of The Union

Source: Talking Points Memo

House Dems To Bring Victims Of Gun Violence To State Of The Union

PEMA LEVY 12:14 PM EST, SUNDAY FEBRUARY 10, 2013

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) said Sunday that he and about 30 other House Democrats plan to bring victims of gun violence as their guests to President Obama's State of the Union address next week as part of the push for new gun safety legislation in the wake of the school massacre in Newtown, Conn.

"A young man named Sami Rahamim, who lost his father in a tragic event in Minneapolis, is going to be joining me," Ellison said on ABC's "This Week." "And Jim Langevin (Democrat of Rhode Island])and I and Rosa DeLauro (Democrat of Connecticut) have asked our colleagues. We've got about 30 members who are inviting victims of gun violence to be in the gallery. And we're really looking forward to -- to them being with us, because they -- they're witnesses to the need for sane, sensible reform in the area of gun violence prevention."

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Reply House Dems To Bring Victims Of Gun Violence To State Of The Union (Original post)
kpete Feb 2013 OP
hedgehog Feb 2013 #1
mwrguy Feb 2013 #2
patrice Feb 2013 #3
valerief Feb 2013 #6
frylock Feb 2013 #14
hack89 Feb 2013 #22
patrice Feb 2013 #26
hack89 Feb 2013 #27
patrice Feb 2013 #29
Psephos Feb 2013 #30
customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #4
JDPriestly Feb 2013 #5
primavera Feb 2013 #7
Amonester Feb 2013 #20
onehandle Feb 2013 #10
apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #11
customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #15
onehandle Feb 2013 #24
customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #25
frylock Feb 2013 #16
customerserviceguy Feb 2013 #17
frylock Feb 2013 #19
onehandle Feb 2013 #28
Ken Burch Feb 2013 #18
Zoeisright Feb 2013 #8
apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #12
Third Doctor Feb 2013 #9
apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #13
Psephos Feb 2013 #21
hack89 Feb 2013 #23


Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:46 PM

2. They should bring those two old ladies that were shot by the LAPD

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:54 PM

3. Why do gun owners have more "rights" than other people do? nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:26 PM

6. Must be the same reason 1%ers do. nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:02 PM

14. because some people never learned to count past 2

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Response to patrice (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:58 PM

22. They don't. nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #22)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:41 PM

26. So, we DO control that militia thing? Or can any gun owners just decide they are militia &

also decide that it's time to overthrow the government, without asking me?

Do I mis-understand their claim?

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Response to patrice (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 05:26 AM

27. No American has the right to over throw the government.

stop using the fringe gun owners to smear the rest of us.

The Supreme Court says we have the right to bear arms for self defense. It also says that guns can be regulated. That is what me and most gun owners believe.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 11:46 AM

29. You know? I really wasn't trying to smear you, just seeking clarification as to who is whom. If you

want authentic support from people who really are honestly trying to figure out for themselves what to do, PLEASE reconsider your word choices. Why create problems where there don't necessarily have to be any?

Perhaps you can understand that this is the internet; there are ALL kinds of people posting under names that are not their real names (including yourself, I might observe) & saying everything imaginable under the sun, so maybe you can see why SOME people just need clarification about the various actors out there. If all of you are not crazy-militia, then it would also be logical that not all of us are about "smear" anything.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:23 PM

30. True - unless the government becomes a tyranny.

The Framers were pretty clear that a government is legitimate only as long as it expresses and executes the will of the people.

Read the Declaration of Independence. Lincoln, who made the Declaration the centerpiece of his philosophy, argued that the Declaration states the principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted. (McPherson, Second American Revolution, 126.)

“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”

“Every generation needs a new revolution.”

Both quotes are from Thomas Jefferson.

Bottom line: dissent is patriotic, and it's the responsibility of the people not to tolerate an illegitimate government. One hopes it's a remedy that's never needed.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:58 PM

4. So what

The GOP can bring people who have sucessfully defended themselves with weapons in their own homes. What would either side be able to say that we don't already know about how they feel?

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:08 PM

5. Which group do you think would be larger?

Those who actually defended themselves from gun violence with guns?

Or the victims of gun violence and their survivors?

I would bet on the latter group.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:26 PM

7. My money is on the latter - n/t

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:27 PM

20. And the former who defended themselves using assault weapons even thinner

me thinks.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:30 PM

10. Gun nuts make those stories up ad nauseum.

Just like UFOs, imagery and witnesses are a rare thing.

The tide is turning.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:20 PM

11. +1,000. n/t.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:03 PM

15. The tide is not turning

Only the reporting. My prediction: Nothing gets done in Congress about guns, with the possible exception of some meaningless limitation on rounds in a clip or magazine. Adam Lanza showed us that he was prepared to bring as many of them as he could stuff in his pockets.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:07 PM

24. Groundwork. Universal Background Checks is what will most likely be wrestled from the NRAGOP.

As the country blues, gun control will grow and grow.

And excuse fabricators like you will be silenced.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:33 PM

25. Will there be some extension of background checks?

Yes, I'll give you that one, except for the totally private sales of firearms, which is a virtual impossibility. And that will be the main means by which criminals procure guns, with stealing them a close second.

Excuse fabricator, indeed, I'm just telling you the reality of gun legislation making it through a Rethuglican House, with significant Blue Dog support, or in this case, nonsupport. It's not going to go any further from that, no matter that it was finally white kids who were killed in CT.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:04 PM

16. because most stories of "successful DGU" are usually about as real as letters to the Penthouse Forum

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Response to frylock (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:09 PM

17. The Rethugs will do everything possible

to avoid that impression, mark my words. They will find ways to pay for their side to come to the State of the Union address, or any other forum, if they feel they need to match numbers.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:21 PM

19. they can look for the next 20 years, while the victims of gun violence stack up like cordwood..

those numbers are never EVER going to match up.

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Response to frylock (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:25 AM

28. And concocted for the same reason. nt

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:16 PM

18. Actually, the GOP would just bring in GUNS...

I'd advise the Capitol Police to be extra vigilant with security procedures for this.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:38 PM

8. Good.

It's time for gun humpers to be forced to look at the consequences of their obsession.

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Response to Zoeisright (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:21 PM

12. Spot. On. Reply.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:36 PM

9. This is a good move.

Make certain Dems in the senate explain why they will not support gun legislation to these people in person.


We don't have the votes = The lobbiests don't want me to vote for the bill and their money is more important that citizens lives.


I also want Reid to explain to these people why he back off on reforming the Filibuster.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:24 PM

13. Excellent idea: let America see those faces, a few of the millions of victims of gun violence,

and a gun culture that is fueled by the "pro-RKBA" movement in general and the NRA and its shills and sycophants - in particular.



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:41 PM

21. Are the two newspaper ladies the cops shot in Torrance going to be there? n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:00 PM

23. With the chances of gun control legislation passing so slim

it makes sense that they do things like this.

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