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Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:16 AM

Boy killed by carbon monoxide while trying to keep warm

Source: us news

Among the deaths blamed on the gusting winter storm that buried parts of the Northeast under 3 feet of snow was an 11-year-old boy in Boston who was overcome by carbon monoxide while keeping warm in the car.

The boy had been helping his father shovel out the car and got cold, NBC affiliate WHDH of Boston reported. The father started the engine, and the boy got inside, a Boston fire official told the station. But the car’s exhaust pipe was covered by a nearly 4-foot tall snowbank.

“The car filled up with the carbon monoxide gases that weren’t escaping through the exhaust system, and the boy was overcome,” a fire official told WHDH.

The boy's father went into respiratory arrest.

“The father started screaming, ‘He’s not breathing, he’s not breathing,’” a neighbor told WHDH. “So the father brings the little boy into my hallway and lays him on the ground and then he comes back out and collapses.”

Fire officials arrived on the scene to find neighbors performing CPR on the boy. Father and son were transported to the Boston Medical Center, where the boy died. His father was undergoing treatment, WHDH reported.

Read more: http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/09/16914027-boy-killed-by-carbon-monoxide-while-trying-to-keep-warm?lite



unbelievably sad...

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Reply Boy killed by carbon monoxide while trying to keep warm (Original post)
trailmonkee Feb 2013 OP
MrSlayer Feb 2013 #1
Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #2
trailmonkee Feb 2013 #3
Ash_F Feb 2013 #4
LeftInTX Feb 2013 #5
Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #6
nuxvomica Feb 2013 #7
NickB79 Feb 2013 #8
Beacool Feb 2013 #10
Beacool Feb 2013 #9
bucolic_frolic Feb 2013 #11
Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #13
Ter Feb 2013 #12
uppityperson Feb 2013 #14
daleo Feb 2013 #16
Xithras Feb 2013 #20
Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #15
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2013 #17
yardwork Feb 2013 #18
truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #19

Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:22 AM

1. Really sad but also really stupid.

 

An adult should know better than this.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:47 AM

3. that's why i posted....

to remind folks that this can happen.... man do i feel sorry for the father

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:35 AM

4. Not being from an area that gets much snow...

I have never heard of it totally blocking an exhaust pipe. Makes sense though.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:51 AM

5. Thanks for posting

Although I'm from Wisconsin, I was not aware of this. It is something that I will remember and pass along.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:26 AM

6. important to let people know.. in the middle of a personal crisis many people forget things like the

need to keep the exhaust pipes completely open. It might seem stupid of the father. Under normal a situation - he probably would have remembered that. But people don't always carefully think things through in the middle of an unpredictable situation. What a terrible tragedy. So sad for the poor little boy who had a whole life waiting for him. No doubt the father will suffer greatly for the rest of his life for this mistake.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:43 AM

7. Tragic but understandable

When you're tired from shoveling and freezing from the cold, you don't think so well. And that warm car must've been awfully inviting.
This is a sad reminder to listen to your body and think things through when you're out in the cold. And if you're shoveling snow, wear a $20 weightlifting belt. It'll save your back.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:58 AM

8. FYI, this can also happen in houses

After a big storm, ALWAYS check all your venting pipes around the outside of your house for snow blockages. We had a few huge snowstorms here a couple winters ago, and snowdrifts were blocking the gas venting pipes that run from our water heater and furnace a couple times.

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Response to NickB79 (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:22 AM

10. Good advice.

Most people know about the exhaust pipe issue and they remember it, but most people forget about their home's venting pipes.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:19 AM

9. Tragic, but the father should have known better.

Yesterday I spent 45 minutes digging out the car. When I sat in the car and turned it on for a few minutes I made sure to leave the door open. There was still too much snow surrounding the car and I knew that the exhaust pipe was still covered by it. I clearly remember when some years ago two policemen sitting in their patrol car were overcome by the fumes and died. They apparently hadn't realized when they had parked that they had gotten too close to a snow bank and it had covered their exhaust pipe.

My thoughts and prayers are with the family. I can't even imagine how the father is feeling right now.

Rest in peace.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:25 AM

11. I had no idea

a blocked exhaust pipe would back up gases into the passenger compartment.

I thought the engine would stall.

Learn something new every day. Very sad for those two, just heartbraking.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:44 PM

13. This.



On the silver screen, I believe it just makes the car stall.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:40 PM

12. I know you can't smell carbon monoxide, but a few questions:

 

Are there any symptoms? I mean, do you start feeling a little faint first? Roughly how long in the car would he have had to been in it?

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Response to Ter (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:30 PM

14. This article says he was 14 yrs old, in car 10-15 min.

Looks like a couple people died from it so far in this snow storm.
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/02/09/boston-boy-dies-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-after-shoveling-out-from-blizzard/jTgqG3MSPPRMy7CrIB7fbM/story.html
The boy was only in the car for 10 to 15 minutes, but the car was covered with snow and the colorless deadly gas could not escape through the muffler, said Jennifer Mehigan, a spokeswoman for Boston EMS.



CO binds with hemoglobin which means it takes a bit of time to get out of your system.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/carbon-monoxide/DS00648/DSECTION=symptoms
Signs and symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning may include:

Dull headache
Weakness
Dizziness
Nausea
Vomiting
Shortness of breath
Confusion
Blurred vision
Loss of consciousnes

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Response to Ter (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:32 PM

16. As you die, I believe it feels like falling asleep

If you get rescued, you have one hell of a headache when you come to. It has to do with carbon monoxide displacing oxygen in red blood cells.

That's what I have heard, at any rate.

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Response to Ter (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:48 PM

20. Often there are no symptoms

It's death by oxygen deprivation. You start to feel tired, but your cognitive abilities also decline rapidly, so you often won't even bother wondering why. Your brain goes into a fog and you lose the motivation to do anything. There have been instances where conscious people stuck in burning buildings have simply sat down to die when an escape was easily accessible. Once the lack of oxygen starts shutting down the brain, our instinctive drive for self preservation goes out the window.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 04:15 PM

15. Saw a guy with his tail pipe covered the other night n a car that had gotten stuck in the snow.

I warned him and he said that someone was coming for him. My answer was yeah the grim reaper if you keep your car running.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:01 PM

17. Let's not be so quick to judge the dad. This could happen any time you back hard into

a snowbank. Who thinks of getting out and checking the tailpipe? There were four to eight foot drifts all over Eastern Massachusetts, cars covered with deep snow and frigid temps.

There was another young man killed as he sat too long in his running car. Neighbors said he'd been in there a long time...

These both were tragic. Remember to always check on people and tailpipes.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:03 PM

18. My heart goes out to the father. How incredibly sad.

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Response to trailmonkee (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:07 PM

19. Crushing lesson to learn.

Remember this.

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