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Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:01 AM

Protester hurls shoes at Paul Bremer, former US envoy to Iraq

Source: NBC News

Former U.S. diplomat Paul Bremer had shoes thrown at him during a meeting held Wednesday in the British Parliament in an attack reminiscent of the 2008 shoe hurling directed at President George W. Bush.

The incident occurred as Bremer, a former U.S. envoy to Iraq, was giving a speech at a meeting organized by the Henry Jackson Society, a British-based think tank named for the late U.S. senator from Washington state. Bush, who appointed Bremer to his post in Iraq was the target of a similar attack when he visited Baghdad in 2008. Shoe hurling is a traditional Arab gesture of disrespect.

In the latter incident, a man stood up, seemingly to address Bremer, and announced he was delivering two messages, one from Saddam Hussein and one from the Iraqi people.

"This is the first message," the man said, as he threw the first shoe. Bremer can be seen ducking, but he then started laughing, in seeming disbelief.





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Reply Protester hurls shoes at Paul Bremer, former US envoy to Iraq (Original post)
cal04 Feb 2013 OP
MADem Feb 2013 #1
truebluegreen Feb 2013 #21
MADem Feb 2013 #23
truebluegreen Feb 2013 #24
MADem Feb 2013 #25
wake.up.america Feb 2013 #2
sakabatou Feb 2013 #3
Marie Marie Feb 2013 #4
Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #15
Kath1 Feb 2013 #6
hibbing Feb 2013 #8
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #12
davidpdx Feb 2013 #13
patrice Feb 2013 #29
sakabatou Feb 2013 #33
polly7 Feb 2013 #34
patrice Feb 2013 #35
Posteritatis Feb 2013 #32
Honeycombe8 Feb 2013 #5
Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #26
2naSalit Feb 2013 #7
patrice Feb 2013 #30
Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #9
dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #10
MADem Feb 2013 #27
secondvariety Feb 2013 #11
Kolesar Feb 2013 #14
Enrique Feb 2013 #16
Kolesar Feb 2013 #19
Enrique Feb 2013 #17
polly7 Feb 2013 #18
patrice Feb 2013 #31
deminks Feb 2013 #20
awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #22
Xipe Totec Feb 2013 #28

Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:13 AM

1. A message from Saddam, eh?

His crew ain't done, apparently....I think we can say with some degree of certainty that the shoe tosser is a Sunni. He might even be from Tikrit.

But trying to insist that he is delivering a message from 'the Iraqi people?' Maybe the ones who are Sunni and benefited from the Ba'ath regime, but a huge population of Shi'a are delighted that Saddam is gone, and a lot of Kurds aren't arguing either.

Iraq is a frigging mess, but it's more transparent now. The brutality used to be hidden.

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:48 PM

21. Well, since things are more transparent, I guess it was well worth the trouble.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:09 PM

23. You can come to that conclusion, if you'd like. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:19 PM

24. Sounded like you did.

I thought it was clear enough to leave off the thingie.

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Response to truebluegreen (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:22 PM

25. No, I didn't come to that conclusion at all.

You're the one who suggested "improvement." I certainly didn't.

Just because things are more apparent doesn't make them necessarily better.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:13 AM

2. Bremmer almost snagged the second shoe. Interesting reaction.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:21 AM

3. Bush, anyone?

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:27 AM

4. Never tire of seeing that.

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Response to Marie Marie (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:23 AM

15. Me either!

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:35 AM

6. He deserved that.

Starting an illegal and immoral war has consequences, even if it is just a shoe thrown at you.

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:20 AM

8. toss

Hi,
I wonder what happened to the guy. I'm surprised the idiot son could move quick enough to duck out of the way. An illegal and morally unjustified war while millions and millions are made by the criminal ruling class from it.

Peace

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Response to hibbing (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:44 AM

12. 9 months in jail

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 08:21 AM

13. The second one came pretty close

Too bad he wasn't three legged, he might made the third one a charm.

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:58 PM

29. It'd be fun to see that internet game come back, but we need Cheney up there. nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #29)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:36 PM

33. There was a game?

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:40 PM

34. Yep

This one still works, there were others ... they were all fun!

http://www.sockandawe.com/

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 03:43 PM

35. Yeah! It was pretty simple; used the actual images, with GW popping up & down & the

player clicked to throw the shoe.

I think some people complained about it, so it went away pretty quickly, because when you hit GW with the shoe that you just threw there was the BIG red SPLATTER complete with a squashing sound.

I actually agree with that critique, but then I personally remember JFK & Bobby Kennedy.

It felt VERY good to hit GW with the shoe, when you managed to do so, but there should probably be some result other than "blood".

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Response to sakabatou (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:18 PM

32. Gotta give credit, it was a nice dodge. (nt)

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:32 AM

5. Classy. I'm sure that convinced lots of people to join the cause. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:27 PM

26. Yes, one must be polite with war criminals.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:57 AM

7. When Bremmer starts to

have his say it sounded like he was telling the guy to his right that this has happened to him before. I like the part where he got to say FU a couple times.

I don't think it matters much if he was Sunni or Shi'a, Bush F'd Up his country and killed a bunch of his family, I'd throw shoes at that slimebag myself. Bremmer is the equivalent of an economic hit man and the conditions he was sent to Iraq to foist upon all the people of that country is so unbelievably criminal that that POS ought to be sitting in a cell in The Hague right now. Check out The Shock Doctrine, it exposes him as well as many of the other criminals of his ilk.

I'm glad to see that Bremmer gets called out on the whole thing.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:00 PM

30. Agree!!!

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:10 AM

9. good

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 05:51 AM

10. Question is

Was it a Converse made in China.

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:29 PM

27. Or a plastic OTAFUKU, very popular in the Middle East....

They make lots of "slip on" shoes, and sandals, sold cheaply in the bazaars....

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:11 AM

11. He should have thrown a turd.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:16 AM

14. Was "Scoop" Jackson a militarist Commie-phobe?

I was a preteenager when he was "doing his thing". During the period we wasted a lot of public money on Cold War weapons and wasted a lot of good will in places like Vietnam and Nicaragua.

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Response to Kolesar (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 09:59 AM

16. a hero of the neocons

a lot of the neocons call themselves "Scoop Jackson Democrats", they were actually Democrats and converted at some point, maybe around the time of the Reagan revolution. It's a good bet that the "Henry Jackson Society" is basically a neocon think tank.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:33 AM

19. Congressmen who never said no to the aerospace-weapons-builders

I had high school teachers who were selling the same "message".

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:02 AM

17. wow, we're coming on 10 years

surely their great glorious war will be commemorated in a big way, maybe on Iraq Statue Day?

Someone has apparently found Paul Bremer, now we need to find where the others are hiding: Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, the "cakewalk" guy, I forgot his name, that other guy that's the "dumbest fucking guy on the planet", etc.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:06 AM

18. Good.

Has he ever explained where all the money went?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/jul/07/iraq.features11

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Response to polly7 (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:02 PM

31. K&R!

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 11:37 AM

20. Where did all the money go, Mr. Bremer?

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:07 PM

22. These guys really...

need to work on their aim.

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Response to cal04 (Original post)

Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:32 PM

28. Crude Missiles nt

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