Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:26 PM
kpete (38,896 posts)
Senate Democrats Achieve 60 Votes For Violence Against Women Act
Source: Talking Points Memo
Senate Democrats Achieve 60 Votes For Violence Against Women Act Next up in the Senate: The Violence Against Women Act. Senate Democrats have achieved the 60 votes necessary to bypass a filibuster and reauthorize the domestic violence legislation. “JUST TOPPED ‘magic number’ of 60 bipartisan cosponsors of my #VAWA legisl.; We’re moving briskly toward Senate vote on the Leahy-Crapo Bill,” Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) wrote Thursday afternoon on Twitter. https://twitter.com/SenatorLeahy/status/297034402700083200 The seven Republicans who have joined 53 Democrats in support of the legislation are Sens. Kelly Ayotte (NH), Susan Collins (ME), Mike Crapo (ID), Dean Heller (NV), Mark Kirk (IL), Jerry Moran (KS) and Lisa Murkowski (AK). Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/60-senate-votes-violence-against-women-act.php?ref=fpblg
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| kpete | Feb 2013 | OP | |
| madrchsod | Feb 2013 | #1 | |
| BVictor1 | Feb 2013 | #2 | |
| BumRushDaShow | Feb 2013 | #3 | |
| Arkana | Feb 2013 | #4 | |
| xxqqqzme | Feb 2013 | #6 | |
| freshwest | Feb 2013 | #8 | |
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| Arkana | Feb 2013 | #21 | |
| freshwest | Feb 2013 | #24 | |
| sheshe2 | Feb 2013 | #51 | |
| oldhippydude | Feb 2013 | #5 | |
| obama2terms | Feb 2013 | #7 | |
| freshwest | Feb 2013 | #10 | |
| rhett o rick | Feb 2013 | #36 | |
| primavera | Feb 2013 | #11 | |
| joshdawg | Feb 2013 | #14 | |
| primavera | Feb 2013 | #16 | |
| Jennicut | Feb 2013 | #17 | |
| Scootaloo | Feb 2013 | #19 | |
| Tanelorn | Feb 2013 | #12 | |
| freshwest | Feb 2013 | #25 | |
| joshdawg | Feb 2013 | #13 | |
| sakabatou | Feb 2013 | #15 | |
| onenote | Feb 2013 | #29 | |
| sakabatou | Feb 2013 | #47 | |
| onenote | Feb 2013 | #48 | |
| rhett o rick | Feb 2013 | #37 | |
| JDPriestly | Feb 2013 | #18 | |
| Guy Whitey Corngood | Feb 2013 | #20 | |
| Arkana | Feb 2013 | #23 | |
| freshwest | Feb 2013 | #26 | |
| Arkana | Feb 2013 | #22 | |
| freshwest | Feb 2013 | #28 | |
| Tx4obama | Feb 2013 | #31 | |
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| Tx4obama | Feb 2013 | #35 | |
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| Fantastic Anarchist | Feb 2013 | #54 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:29 PM
madrchsod (55,739 posts)
1. kirk voted for it!
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it was a safe vote for him in illinois. his ex wife was his campaign manager.
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Response to madrchsod (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:46 PM
BVictor1 (213 posts)
2. I also think the stroke has changed his perspective on some things.
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Then again, he's a bit more moderate.
He may have always intended to vote for it. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:53 PM
BumRushDaShow (11,956 posts)
3. K&R
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About time!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:06 PM
Arkana (22,234 posts)
4. Let me guess--no protections for LGBT couples, right?
Response to Arkana (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:44 PM
xxqqqzme (13,434 posts)
6. Agree, before the celebrating -
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) What happened to the exceptions, LGBT and First Nation women?
"...“The Leahy-Crapo VAWA bill seeks to protect all victims of domestic and sexual violence, including tribal women, college students, and members of the LGBT community,” Leahy said in a statement Friday..." Now we need the house to just pass it - no conference committee either. |
Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #6)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:15 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
8. They aren't exceptions, they are included. That was why the GOP didn't want to pass it.
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:19 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Latest news:
Senator Leahy has arranged for VAWA to go directly to the Senate floor and Majority Leader Harry Reid has promised to bring VAWA up for a vote in the next week. Here is what passed: Description of legislation: In addition to many important improvements, such as addressing the criminal justice response to sexual assault, domestic violence homicides, housing needs, and campus victimization included in legislation last year. The current Senate bill also maintains enhanced protections for tribal, LGBT and immigrant victims. These provisions were identified as critical priorities by advocates across the country and received overwhelming bipartisan support last year in the Senate. One provision from last year’s bill was not included- the modest increase in the number of U visas available to immigrant victims of domestic violence, sexual assault and certain other violent crimes who assist law enforcement in the investigation or prosecution of the crime (originally created by Congress in VAWA 2000). Increasing the number of U visas would help both victims and law enforcement. Unfortunately, that provision led to a technical objection from House Republican leaders and, in the interest of obtaining the swift reauthorization of VAWA, the Senate introduced the new VAWA bill without that provision in order to avoid any initial technical obstacles. Other important provisions to help immigrant victims and their children from last year’s bill are included in S. 47. The National Task Force and Senator Leahy will also be working hard to include the U visa increase in the comprehensive immigration reform legislation that will soon be considered by Congress. Another provision was added, the SAFER Act, S. 80, originally sponsored by Leahy and Cornyn (R-TX) which passed unanimously in the Senate late last year and promotes the elimination of sexual assault evidence (rape kits) backlogs that could be used to prosecute offenders and solve cold cases. The infamous failure to prosecute rape and charging victims for rape kits is over. The immigration portion of the bill that was not agreed to, will be in the bill on immigration coming up. I see this as good news for all of us. More details about how the work and kudos to those who stayed active working on this at link: http://4vawa.org/ I think it's time for all of those who care about these issues to celebrate, although anyone who has a senator or representative who didn't vote for it, should still be given a earful by their constituents. No one should have been against re-authorizing this. |
Response to Arkana (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:20 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
9. Yes, there are, see my reply #8 below.
Response to freshwest (Reply #9)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:55 PM
Arkana (22,234 posts)
21. Oh, excellent. How'd we get those fucks to agree to that?
Response to Arkana (Reply #21)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:01 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
24. Don't look at the sausage making too close, now.
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:20 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) I read Reid negotiated gun regulations for the filibuster reform, but the agenda continues.
If you have a senator or a representative who didn't sign on, it's still important to let them hear your voice. The offices record the number of calls, letters and emails sent for or against anything and they have to take it into account. I also think John Kerry calling them to task, telling the Senate to not go for their own personal gain or their party's gain, but to do what's right for everyone, may have had an effect. Never give up or let the haters win. They are on the wrong side of history, the faster they learn it from us, the better. |
Response to freshwest (Reply #24)
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 10:45 AM
sheshe2 (4,856 posts)
51. +1000
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Never give up or let the haters win. They are on the wrong side of history, the faster they learn it from us, the better. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:40 PM
oldhippydude (2,514 posts)
5. Crapo?
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wonder what got into him...
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 02:59 PM
obama2terms (339 posts)
7. So
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Now that it can't be filibustered it's time to see what happens in the house.
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Response to obama2terms (Reply #7)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:25 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
10. The link I posted above in #8 says to keep calling. Don't let them get away with it.
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I know my representatives voted for it but they were outnumbered by the baggers from the other states. Yet the senators from red states yielded and agreed to do the right thing here, most likely do to the pressure applied by the VAWA .org group.
There is no reason to let up on the House GOP. Since the House is refusing to do its job of presenting good legislation and authorizing what the nation needs, the Senate is having to work around and get it done. But it won't get done without pressure. If you have a GOP representative, just remember, some of them saw the light in the Senate today. |
Response to freshwest (Reply #10)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:34 PM
rhett o rick (26,728 posts)
36. I hope the Repubs in the Senate actually "saw the light".
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Some times they will vote to pass when they know for sure it wont make it thru the HOR
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:28 PM
primavera (5,137 posts)
11. What I don't get...
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... is why Republicans oppose VAWA in the first place, and evidently enough to filibuster. I mean, okay, so Republicans filibuster everything these days, but what message are they trying to send here? That they want women to get beaten up?
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Response to primavera (Reply #11)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:50 PM
joshdawg (361 posts)
14. What they will never admit to
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is the fact they are waging a war on women. Republican women are in denial of this.
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Response to joshdawg (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:56 PM
primavera (5,137 posts)
16. That certainly is the message they're sending
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What I don't understand is how anyone observing the GOP's behavior could possibly reach any different conclusion. What possible spurious rationales could they be employing that would allow them to imagine that they aren't waging a war on women?
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Response to primavera (Reply #11)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:59 PM
Jennicut (25,347 posts)
17. It was always reauthorized until the new protections were added in.
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Not all women are created equal for those Repubs opposed. Even Biden, who authored the original bill back in the 90's, couldn't get Cantor to budge. He tried one on one and got nowhere. Pretty disgusting by Cantor and fellow Repubs.
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Response to primavera (Reply #11)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:21 PM
Scootaloo (5,881 posts)
19. Women have to know their place!
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And to the Republicans, that should be asserted with male force, and male force needs the backing of the Daddy State.
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Response to Tanelorn (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:03 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
25. Contact the forty Republican hold outs. Give them hell.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:48 PM
joshdawg (361 posts)
13. Shouldn't have needed 60 votes.
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Bring back majority rules.
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Response to joshdawg (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:55 PM
sakabatou (29,082 posts)
15. No, but with the Senate, it needs to be veto-proof.
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:55 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) |
Response to sakabatou (Reply #15)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:26 PM
onenote (22,016 posts)
29. Huh? Why does it need to be veto proof?
Response to onenote (Reply #29)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:02 PM
sakabatou (29,082 posts)
47. Maybe I'm thinking of something different
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But any Republican could make a silent filibuster.
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Response to sakabatou (Reply #47)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:11 PM
onenote (22,016 posts)
48. Right. 60 votes to break filibuster. 2/3 vote to overcome veto
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Of course, the Violence Against Women Act is not in danger of being vetoed by President Obama, so that's not an issue.
Also, to the best of my recollection (and I haven't gone back and checked) the reason the bill didn't pass last Congress wasn't due to a republican filibuster in the Senate. It was because the bill that the Senate passed (with 68 votes) was watered down by the House repubs and the Democrats in the Senate did not want to pass a watered down version. Hopefully if I have that history wrong, someone will correct me. |
Response to joshdawg (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:36 PM
rhett o rick (26,728 posts)
37. Senate Democrats are comfortable with the
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60 votes needed to pass legislation. They decided reform wasnt needed.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:10 PM
JDPriestly (37,760 posts)
18. It is shocking to think that this was hard to do.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:27 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,847 posts)
20. I wonder how many Pukes would vote against The Don't Kick Disabled Orphans In The
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Nuts Act.
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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #20)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:56 PM
Arkana (22,234 posts)
23. Depends on whether it could be offset by spending cuts to Medicare and Social Security.
Response to Arkana (Reply #23)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:04 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
26. Which would do the same thing...
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:55 PM
Arkana (22,234 posts)
22. 53 Democrats? I thought there were 55 in the caucus. Who jumped ship?
Response to Arkana (Reply #22)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:15 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
28. I don't have time to read the entire link, but here's some information:
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:35 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_United_States_Congress
It is a narrow majority, with 53 Democrats, 2 Independents, caucusing with Democrats and still 45 Republicans. You could look up the roll call on the vote when it is posted, but there are 45 GOP in the senate anyway. We do not have a full compliment because Kerry's seat only has an interim appointment by the Governor of MA. I'm not sure if he can vote yet, if he's been sworn in, or if he will be able to vote at all. It turns out Scott Brown is not going to run for that seat as previously thought, and the prediction is that it will go to a Democrat. It's significant that 7 Republicans yielded to the will of the Democrats on this issue and I hope they will yield more. We have our 60 votes now, let's celebrate. Both parties should be contacted, I'm not going to focus on the number of Dems who may have abstained, are dead, sick or otherwise not voted. The main thing is that we got this done without them and with what were previously thought to be die-hard GOP opponents. Obama's agenda on the VAWA and other issues is clear and the more momentum we get, the more we will get done. Here is another link for you to use to contact the Democrats in the Senate. It's easy to use the social networking tools on the right: http://democrats.senate.gov/members/ |
Response to freshwest (Reply #28)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:28 PM
Tx4obama (28,920 posts)
31. The text in your comment is re wiki.answers is WRONG. Out of date. Old. See below
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Currently in the U.S. Senate there are Democrats: 53 Republicans: 45 Independents: 2 (both caucus with the dems) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_United_States_Congress |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #31)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:31 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
34. Thank you, I will EDIT and make it RIGHT.
Response to freshwest (Reply #28)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:42 PM
Tx4obama (28,920 posts)
40. Mo Cowan is MA senator as of today. So, he will be able to vote on the bill next week.
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:45 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) List of current U.S. Senators by seniority here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_Senators_by_seniority That is one of my favorite pages. It's a quick reference when looking for senate member info. |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #40)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:48 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
44. So, it updates faster, huh. Good link, thanks!
Response to freshwest (Reply #28)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:45 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
42. Note, that official link shows Kerry there, perhaps his interim replacement can vote for us.
Response to Arkana (Reply #22)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:29 PM
Tx4obama (28,920 posts)
33. Yes, 53 dems, 2 independents
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Currently in the U.S. Senate there are Democrats: 53 Republicans: 45 Independents: 2 (both caucus with the dems) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_United_States_Congress |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #33)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:36 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
38. Thanks, already corrected from your link. I'll check the offiical Senate link, too.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:04 PM
happyslug (10,766 posts)
27. I have to say, what I like to say about the 1964 Civil Rights Act,
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The people you have to thank are the people of the group who oppose this law but then who voted to end the filibuster. This remains true even if they later vote against the actual bill, for it is the Filibuster that was stopping this from becoming law, not any up and down vote and thus it was the vote on the filibuster that is the important vote, not the actual vote on the actual bill.
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Response to happyslug (Reply #27)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:28 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
32. I think the vote on the Civil Rights and VAWA bill is more important.
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Because I care more about those bills than what was done to get them approved.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:27 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
30. Contact your Democratic Senators here to congratulate them:
Response to freshwest (Reply #30)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:33 PM
Tx4obama (28,920 posts)
35. They are NOT voting on the bill until next week.
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-snip- A floor vote is expected as early as next week. -snip- http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/02/60-senate-votes-violence-against-women-act.php?ref=fpblg |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #35)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:38 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
39. Yes, I mentioned that Reid is bringing it to the floor next week. It's Friday now.
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Last edited Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Do you think it's not going to pass?
Or that Leahy's tweet is wrong in the OP? |
Response to freshwest (Reply #39)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:47 PM
Tx4obama (28,920 posts)
43. Sounds like they have enough 'commitments' to avoid a filibuster.
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If everyone holds to what they've said then it should pass next week. |
Response to Tx4obama (Reply #43)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:51 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
45. Since the GOP were brave enough to be listed publicly, I think it's done.
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More to come with the immigration bill in the works that affects a special part of the VAWA as I listed above. Have a good weekend, Tx4obama.
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Response to freshwest (Reply #30)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:43 PM
freshwest (31,490 posts)
41. Note, Senator Kerry is not there, but his interim replacement may be able to vote.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:21 PM
Cha (124,597 posts)
49. McConnell didn't vote for it.. so that COULD
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be a bad thing in 2014. Anyway, it's the first thought that crossed my mind. I know, weird.
Good for those who did! Crapo! Heller! |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:06 PM
Flying Squirrel (816 posts)
50. one more rec to 60....
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If a post gets 60 DU Recs, whatever it's advocating should go to an immediate vote!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:10 AM
ReRe (2,866 posts)
53. Thanks, kpete, for this info on the VAWA!
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... Who would ever think that we would have to be haggling over this legislation? It should have flown through in the 112th Congress.
This is exactly what they need to do... get the no-brainer legislation that should have been passed long ago back on the block and get it through. Boom, boom, boom, one after the other. After all, the republicans have them working, what? 132 days this year? |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 11:17 AM
Fantastic Anarchist (2,343 posts)

