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Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:40 AM

US carbon emissions fall to lowest levels since 1994

Source: Guardian

America's carbon dioxide emissions last year fell to their lowest levels since 1994, according to a new report.

Carbon dioxide emissions fell by 13% in the past five years, because of new energy-saving technologies and a doubling in the take-up of renewable energy, the report compiled by Bloomberg New Energy Finance for the Business Council for Sustainable Energy (BCSE) said.

The reduction in climate pollution even as Congress failed to act on climate change brings America more than halfway towards Barack Obama's target of cutting emissions by 17% from 2005 levels over the next decade, the Bloomberg analysts said.

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Lisa Jacobson, president of the BCSE, said the Bloomberg findings exposed the conservative argument that acting on climate change would be a drag on the economy. Instead, carbon emissions declined even as GDP was going up, she noted.

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Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/01/us-carbon-emissions-lowest-levels

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Reply US carbon emissions fall to lowest levels since 1994 (Original post)
bananas Feb 2013 OP
earthside Feb 2013 #1
Psephos Feb 2013 #3
earthside Feb 2013 #4
antigone382 Feb 2013 #5
Psephos Feb 2013 #9
daleo Feb 2013 #7
Psephos Feb 2013 #8
RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #2
modrepub Feb 2013 #6

Response to bananas (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:46 AM

1. Outsourcing carbon dioxide emissions ...

The report, however, fails to account for the fact that we have essentially outsourced a great deal of what would have otherwise been U.S. carbon dioxide emissions to China.

There is a reason why China is the world's largest producer and consumer of coal -- they are making items for export to the United States and the rest of the world.

So, while not belittling the achievement of increased use of alternate and renewable energy sources in the U.S., the truth is that there is a very big reason not noted in this report for why this is happening.

We have cleaner air in the U.S. because the air has become deadly in Beijing.

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Response to earthside (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:32 PM

3. That makes it China's problem to fix, doesn't it?

Just like it was our problem when US exports to the rest of the world were king.

You take the money, you take the responsibility.

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Response to Psephos (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 09:36 AM

4. You're not serious, are you? n/t

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Response to Psephos (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:25 PM

5. Not if we're happy buying up their products.

Somewhere around 90% of the products Americans consume end up in a landfill within a year. Think of the supply chains to deliver products that are intended for almost immediate disposal and replacement. Think of an economy that requires such profligacy in order to meet the targets that we call "healthy economic growth." That culture must change for our emissions to go down, wherever those products are being manufactured.

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Response to antigone382 (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:35 PM

9. The only way to stop the pollution is at the point where it's emitted.

Everything else is just talk.

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Response to Psephos (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:28 PM

7. It's a global problem

Ultimately, that requires a global solution. The physics of the Earth's atmosphere is indifferent to national borders or political blame shifting.

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Response to daleo (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:34 PM

8. Agreed. :) n/t

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:03 PM

2. That's because there are more Prii on the road here

Now if only China, and India would follow suit.

Oh, and get rid of the damn coal, because there is no such thing as "clean coal."



FYI-- Prii is the plural of Prius.

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Response to bananas (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 06:40 PM

6. And our economy expanded

Imagine that. We reduced our carbon emissions and grew the economy. Sure some of that may be due to transferring manufacturing to China but outsourcing jobs to foreign countries has been going on long before 1994.

Bottom line, if you want to increase efficiency, which will be the lynch pin of controlling carbon emissions, you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO STOP SUBSIDIZING CHEAP ENERGY. In a true market place the cost of energy will actually reflect what it costs to make it. If it's cheap because of government subsidies and policies no one is going to take the steps to use it to the upmost of efficiency.

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