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Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:22 AM

Clinton: Benghazi Critics Don’t Live In ‘Evidence-Based World’

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TOM KLUDT 7:08 AM EST, FRIDAY FEBRUARY 1, 2013

A week after being bombarded with questions from congressional Republicans over the September attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, outgoing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in an interview published Friday that many of those critics have a loose grasp on reality.

"There are some people in politics and in the press who can't be confused by the facts," Clinton told the Associated Press in her final one-on-one interview before she steps down from her post at the State Department on Friday. "They just will not live in an evidence-based world. And that's regrettable. It's regrettable for our political system and for the people who serve our government in very dangerous, difficult circumstances."

Read the entire interview here:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/01/3211567/ap-interview-clinton-raps-her.html#storylink=cpy

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Reply Clinton: Benghazi Critics Don’t Live In ‘Evidence-Based World’ (Original post)
DonViejo Feb 2013 OP
BeyondGeography Feb 2013 #1
Berlum Feb 2013 #2
sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #3
brer cat Feb 2013 #4
SHRED Feb 2013 #5
FiveGoodMen Feb 2013 #12
Beacool Feb 2013 #6
Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2013 #14
NCcoast Feb 2013 #7
ieoeja Feb 2013 #8
FiveGoodMen Feb 2013 #13
elleng Feb 2013 #9
Hekate Feb 2013 #10
underpants Feb 2013 #15
elleng Feb 2013 #17
patrice Feb 2013 #11
underpants Feb 2013 #16
Amonester Feb 2013 #19
dembotoz Feb 2013 #18
BootinUp Feb 2013 #20

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:27 AM

1. A line that can be very broadly applied to the Koch-owned party of illusion

Rest up, Mme. Secretary.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:39 AM

2. Republican FAIL whiners have made a Tempest in a TEApot

...because they have NO ideas whatsoever that would be good for America, so instead they have chosen to make up meaningless shit to try and drag America down down down to their honor-deficient level.

Americans are noticing. That is why Republicans get NO respect. They don't deserve any.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 10:58 AM

3. Yeah, and they don't want anybody else to live in an evidence-based world either. Look

at the crazies that want 'balanced' teaching. No support for evolution nor climate change. They just are meaningless in their world, so make sure all children aren't taught science.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:00 AM

4. Very true, Madam Secretary.

Hillary could have chosen to be a bitter woman a la McCain, but chose instead to serve her country with grace, dignity and courage. Her legacy is assured whatever she does in the future, while the legacy of most of her detractors will be in the trash can.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:26 AM

5. Apply that logic to yourself Hillary:



Hillary Clinton: No regret on Iraq vote
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/21/iraq.hillary/



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Response to SHRED (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:32 PM

12. Well worth remembering!

I can't stand her current critics, but Hillary hasn't been the great hero that some make her out to be.

Again, though, the party that ignored the PDB saying 'Bin Laden determined to strike in US' and let 3000 die in the towers have no business saying, "Four people died and you should have known!"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:26 AM

6. Said very diplomatically.

The rest of us would have told the Tea Party nuts in the Senate to go eff themselves.

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Response to Beacool (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:56 PM

14. Oh come on! Surely you could say "fuck"... It's liberating :-P

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 12:11 PM

7. Takes me back to a 'vast right-wing conspiracy'

Every now and then Hillary just nails it.

I confess, after two Bush administrations I was not comfortable with another Clinton administration. What am I, a peronista? These dynastic first families are a troublesome phenomenon. And I was bone weary of Republican Clinton bashing after Bill's eight years in the white house. Hillary was per-vilified. At least they'd have to come up with a new bat-sh*t crazy scenario, you know the whole, alien, Kenyon, socialist, secret Muslim ball of wax. I admit I wasn't fully prepared for how whacked out and far fetched the GOP/teahadists were prepared to go on Barak. It's pretty impressive. That said...

If Hillary runs I'm behind her 100%. She's ready and she has the stones to take it to these people. As FDR said, 'I welcome their hatred.' I think he speaks for Hillary as well. We need that right now. I think it's time to put someone in the white house who'll go right at them, hammer and tong. Run Hillary run! I'm with you girl.

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Response to NCcoast (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:53 PM

8. FYI: she quoted "vast right-wing conspiracy" from an FBI report.


Bill Clinton was the first President assaulted by the newly minted GOP propaganda machine. The attacks carried all the earmarks of Cold War era propaganda attacks. The FBI figured the American President had to have been targeted by some foreign country and launched an investigation of that attack.

Turned out to be American businessmen employing former members of the CIA propaganda team and providing college scholarships to conservative kids so long as they majored in journalism. Or, as the FBI called it, a "vast right-wing conspiracy".

Righties think that phrase made Hillary look paranoid. So I always like to remind people that she was quoting an FBI report.


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:34 PM

13. First I've heard of that.

Thanks.

Also: I might end up arguing this point with someone and any links you have to that info would be very helpful.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 03:15 PM

9. Remember this?

an October 17, 2004, The New York Times Magazine article by writer Ron Suskind, quoting an unnamed aide to George W. Bush (later attributed to Karl Rove):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

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Response to elleng (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 04:57 PM

10. I just read a wonderful book by Larry Beinhart...

... called The Librarian, set in that period. Beinhart got those ratf--kers to the T.

It was published in 2004, and I just finished it this week after a friend loaned it to me recently. I think it would have been unbearable to read during the Bush administration.

And the horrible thing is: they're still out there spreading money around and pulling strings.

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Response to elleng (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:50 PM

15. Suskind was one of the great observers of the Bush years

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Response to underpants (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:22 PM

17. Quite apt.

Thanks.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 05:21 PM

11. K&R !

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 08:53 PM

16. "Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we're discovering we work for Fox"

David Frum - he was fired from American Enterprise Institute for saying the obvious

http://mediamatters.org/video/2010/03/23/frum-republicans-originally-thought-that-fox-wo/162116

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Response to underpants (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 12:15 PM

19. Good one ('some' do wake up late, but wake up nonetheless).

As most polls confirm.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 11:21 PM

18. Evidence-Based World’

i like the way that flows
nice turn of phrase

think it could be useful in places like repsones on facebook


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 04:04 PM

20. That was a big deal when she said that

Its going to leave some scars.

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