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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:48 PM Jan 2013

Surprised Scientists Find Lifeforms Six Miles Above Earth’s Surface

Source: Gizmodo

For the first time, scientists have found lifeforms where nobody thought it was possible: floating in the troposphere, the slice of the atmosphere approximately four to six miles (eight to 15 kilometers) above Earth's surface. And not just a tiny few, but lot: 20% of every particle in that atmospheric layer are living organisms.

This has profound implications for our understanding of weather, the spread of disease, and life on other planets.

Scientists previously believed that all the suspended particles in this part of the atmosphere were dust and salt, but this new study—"the first of its kind" say the researchers—demonstrates that life can exist in places that we couldn't imagine, under such extreme conditions, living and feeding. According to Kostas Konstantinidis, assistant professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology's School of Civil and Environmental Engineering:

"We did not expect to find so many microorganisms in the troposphere, which is considered a difficult environment for life. There seems to be quite a diversity of species, but not all bacteria make it into the upper troposphere."


Read more: http://gizmodo.com/5980166/surprised-scientists-find-lifeforms-six-miles-above-earths-surface

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Surprised Scientists Find Lifeforms Six Miles Above Earth’s Surface (Original Post) Redfairen Jan 2013 OP
Interesting. MuseRider Jan 2013 #1
When tested for ability to respond to stimuli... Deep13 Jan 2013 #2
Yes, but that's setting the bar pretty low. n/t hughee99 Jan 2013 #18
+1 aquart Jan 2013 #25
Where's James Cameron when ya need him Politicalboi Jan 2013 #33
I wonder if that's where we should be looking for life on Mars? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #3
I believe there have been speculations about Venus in this regard daleo Jan 2013 #17
That is very cool. Isn't there a theory that life is pervasive, and exists almost everywhere? grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #39
There are theories of panspermia daleo Feb 2013 #40
Just thinking the same thing! nt bananas Jan 2013 #29
Thing on the wing... Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #4
And in further breaking news... TexasTowelie Jan 2013 #5
Well..."Gizmodo" is an authority on Science..... well...interesting...but, taken KoKo Jan 2013 #6
They link to the study. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2013 #7
Hey...it's Georgia Tech Research or something. My Dad graduated there.... KoKo Jan 2013 #9
When are we going to stop seeing the "difficult environment for life" crap? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #8
maybe they are microgods Voice for Peace Jan 2013 #10
20% of the particles are living organisms... Beartracks Jan 2013 #11
AGHHHHHH! They're POOPIN! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #14
All life forms eat, reproduce, and excrete. Yay! Beartracks Jan 2013 #22
I love this kind of stuff! Hekate Jan 2013 #12
Me too. awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #16
Nematodes ON bacteria?? Beartracks Jan 2013 #23
Set to music already, I see. Hekate Jan 2013 #28
Have the scientists EVER checked Congress?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, benld74 Jan 2013 #13
Somewhere Ivan Sanderson and Bernard Huevelman are smiling. forestpath Jan 2013 #15
Interesting. I love science! nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #19
All of our ancestors in microscopic form? mia Jan 2013 #20
the Byrds made it to 8... AnotherDreamWeaver Jan 2013 #21
Angels. aquart Jan 2013 #24
Like. mia Jan 2013 #27
Also my thought Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #34
This reminds me a bit of Arthur Clarke's "A Meeting with Medusa"... Beartracks Jan 2013 #26
This could support the Panspermia theory bananas Jan 2013 #30
This has been known since the 60's Politicalboi Jan 2013 #31
A bit of nitpicking: the troposphere extends from the surface up to ~12-14 km; I think petronius Jan 2013 #32
The article is pretty sloppy with the language. I'm a proud resident of the troposphere. slackmaster Jan 2013 #36
Surprised it took you guys so long to notice us up here. leveymg Jan 2013 #35
I've always felt like... Hubert Flottz Jan 2013 #37
Maybe the Tea Party can move up there then to create their new Randian society. Kablooie Jan 2013 #38

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
2. When tested for ability to respond to stimuli...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

scientists found the newly discovered organic material to be between 15 and 20% smarter than creationists and climate deniers.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
40. There are theories of panspermia
Fri Feb 1, 2013, 01:18 AM
Feb 2013

Essentially, that life (at least bacterial life) seeded the Earth from space. I believe it's a possibility that is more scientifically acceptable these days than in the past. Fred Hoyle, a noted astrophysicist was a proponent of the idea, among others.

TexasTowelie

(111,928 posts)
5. And in further breaking news...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

idiotic Republicans in Texas are now blaming the drought on President Obama for his liberal, socialist influence on these microorganisms.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
6. Well..."Gizmodo" is an authority on Science..... well...interesting...but, taken
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jan 2013

with a few "grains of salt.:

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
7. They link to the study.
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 07:44 PM
Jan 2013

I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove here unless Georgia Tech and NASA are to be taken with a grain of salt also.

https://www.gatech.edu/newsroom/release.html?nid=187111

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
9. Hey...it's Georgia Tech Research or something. My Dad graduated there....
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jan 2013

in Engineering...but..it's something to read....but always be aware with folks wanting to have attention.

Hey...it's an interesting read...but....questions...which is GOOD!



 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. When are we going to stop seeing the "difficult environment for life" crap?
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

Life thrives in every environment.

It must be ego or something that makes us think everything thrives at room temperature.

Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
11. 20% of the particles are living organisms...
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

And another 60-70%% is most likely particles of uh, microscopic, um, waste.



All kidding aside, this is an extremely interesting discovery.

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Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
22. All life forms eat, reproduce, and excrete. Yay!
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:04 AM
Jan 2013

I wonder if there are pictures?

(Obviously I haven't read the article...)

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Hekate

(90,550 posts)
12. I love this kind of stuff!
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 09:04 PM
Jan 2013

Ever since I read about single celled organisms alive in the rocks 2 miles down in an African mine, I have been prepared to believe the entire Earth, from troposphere to deep sea trenches to molten center, is capable of sustaining some form of life.

There are life forms clinging to the undersides of the ice sheets of Antarctica. There are life forms living alongside boiling hot vents at the bottom of the ocean. There are nematodes living on bacteria over two miles under the earth in South African gold mines.

Mother Earth

Hekate

Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
23. Nematodes ON bacteria??
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:07 AM
Jan 2013

"There's a hair on the mole on the nematode on the bacteria on the bump on the frog at the hole in the bottom of the mine!"



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Hekate

(90,550 posts)
28. Set to music already, I see.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:23 AM
Jan 2013

The bacteria form a slick coating on the walls, the nematodes just graze along. All very very tiny.

"There's a hole, there's a hole,
there's a hole in the bottom of the mine!"

mia

(8,360 posts)
20. All of our ancestors in microscopic form?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:40 AM
Jan 2013

Last edited Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:17 AM - Edit history (1)

I'll sleep on this thought tonight.

Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
26. This reminds me a bit of Arthur Clarke's "A Meeting with Medusa"...
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jan 2013

... except there the life forms lived in the atmosphere of Jupiter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Meeting_with_Medusa

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petronius

(26,596 posts)
32. A bit of nitpicking: the troposphere extends from the surface up to ~12-14 km; I think
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 01:32 AM
Jan 2013

they mean to express surprise at life being found in the 'upper troposphere.' Also "four to six miles" is not "eight to 15 kilometers."

Pretty fascinating finding, however...

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
36. The article is pretty sloppy with the language. I'm a proud resident of the troposphere.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 02:59 AM
Jan 2013

I hope you all are too.

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