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Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:50 AM

U.S. Senator Lamar Alexander: Guns don't kill people, video games do

Source: www.dailykos.com

CHUCK TODD (MSNBC): Can you envision a way of supporting the universal background checks bill?
LAMAR ALEXANDER: Chuck, I'm going to wait and see on all of these bills. I think video games is a bigger problem than guns, because video games affect people. But the First Amendment limits what we can do about video games and the Second Amendment to the Constitution limits what we can do about guns.

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Holy Crap!

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Reply U.S. Senator Lamar Alexander: Guns don't kill people, video games do (Original post)
RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 OP
northoftheborder Jan 2013 #1
kardonb Jan 2013 #23
Crowman1979 Jan 2013 #2
derby378 Jan 2013 #5
sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #3
Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #20
sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #21
Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #22
Iggo Jan 2013 #4
RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 #6
Drale Jan 2013 #8
november3rd Jan 2013 #29
yellowcanine Jan 2013 #7
frylock Jan 2013 #9
cynzke Jan 2013 #10
Crowman1979 Jan 2013 #11
GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #12
aka-chmeee Jan 2013 #13
AAO Jan 2013 #14
FreeBC Jan 2013 #15
wilt the stilt Jan 2013 #16
calimary Jan 2013 #17
AAO Jan 2013 #26
TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #18
Javaman Jan 2013 #19
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Arkana Jan 2013 #31
John2 Jan 2013 #25
Mike Daniels Jan 2013 #27
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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:51 AM

1. Idiot reasoning

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Response to northoftheborder (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:51 PM

23. idiot

 

people WITH GUNS kill people , therefore it IS guns that kill people !!!

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:53 AM

2. Last time I check, bullets never came out of the screen and killed me when I played "Postal 2".

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:56 AM

5. Or the Zombies game in CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II

Even when I've got "The Hammer." Good times abound.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:55 AM

3. Really, isn't it bullets that kill people?

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:19 PM

20. Only the fast moving ones, unless you swallow one and choke on it.

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Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:22 PM

21. But will you admit that bullets, over all, kill more people than guns?

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #21)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 03:28 PM

22. If you want to separate the two, guns have killed more people than bullets.

Guns have been used in many battles as clubs, bullets have rarely been thrown at the enemy with any real effect.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 10:55 AM

4. Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

Same for anyone who buys this bullshit reasoning.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:03 AM

6. Ironic that Justice Scalia was for video games as free speech.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/28/us/28scotus.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for five justices in the majority in the video games decision, Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Association, No. 08-1448, said video games were subject to full First Amendment protection.

“Like the protected books, plays and movies that preceded them, video games communicate ideas — and even social messages — through many familiar literary devices (such as characters, dialogue, plot and music) and through features distinctive to the medium (such as the player’s interaction with the virtual world),” Justice Scalia wrote. “That suffices to confer First Amendment protection.”

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:47 AM

8. That was a huge victory in Regular People vs Cranky Old People

The older generation did the same thing to Comics in the 50's, in fact they won that once and comics were censored for 50 years, and Rock/Metal Music in the 80's when Dee Snider put the smack down on Tipper Gore. They are afraid of what they don't understand and what is different than what they did as kids.

P.S. I apologize, I know not all older folks are like this but it is easier to generalize in this situation because I've never heard a 20-30 year old with any sense in their head say that video game, comic books or Rock and Roll music causing kids to go on killing rampages.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 31, 2013, 12:27 PM

29. Tony, Tony, Tony

There's a difference between "communicating ideas," and directly implanting adrenalin-gushing experiences into the awareness of a child or teenager.

Scalia is another conservative hack, like Greenspan was.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:04 AM

7. If one's hand slipped off the controls and hit a sharp object, and the resulting cut got

infected with MRSA you could actually DIE.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:48 AM

9. someone should bludgeon this asshole to death with an xbox..

and i'm not being glib.

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Response to RetroGamer1971 (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 12:21 PM

10. Along With Demanding Strict Gun Laws...

I think we should be more vocal about how guns and violence are depicted as an acceptable way to resolve our conflicts with others through movies, TV programs and Reality TV programs. There are too many instances where the plot suggests that if you are disrespected or tresspassed against, you must take revenge and using a weapon may be necessary and acceptable. There are people today that believe in witchcraft and vampires by watching stupid tv shows. There are too many programs that glamorize the Rambo like character who is a law unto himself.

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