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Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:10 PM

Scott Walker: ‘Worth Looking At’ GOP Scheme To Rig Electoral Vote

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IGOR BOBIC 1:43 PM EST, SATURDAY JANUARY 26, 2013

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) said on Saturday that his state may join an RNC-backed plan currently being contemplated in four other states that voted for President Obama in 2012 to rig blue state electoral votes in favor of future Republican presidential candidates.

"It's an interesting idea," Walker said at the National Review Summit in Washington. "I haven't committed one way or another."

"I think you have to be very careful with changes like that but I think it's worth looking at."

Momentum for the idea seems to be waning, however, with key national Republicans coming out against the scheme on Friday. A bill proposing to allocate electoral votes by congressional district in Virginia, tipping the scale against a Democratic candidate, was effectively killed after two GOP state senators and Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) came out against it.

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Reply Scott Walker: ‘Worth Looking At’ GOP Scheme To Rig Electoral Vote (Original post)
DonViejo Jan 2013 OP
sakabatou Jan 2013 #1
Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #2
dsc Jan 2013 #3
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #4
dsc Jan 2013 #6
Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #31
SoapBox Jan 2013 #5
Faygo Kid Jan 2013 #7
Shuhered Jan 2013 #8
broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #10
AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #26
broadcaster75201 Jan 2013 #9
Exultant Democracy Jan 2013 #13
abq e streeter Jan 2013 #15
Exultant Democracy Jan 2013 #16
abq e streeter Jan 2013 #23
davidpdx Jan 2013 #29
Exultant Democracy Jan 2013 #30
davidpdx Jan 2013 #32
AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #27
graham4anything Jan 2013 #28
Angry Dragon Jan 2013 #11
mokawanis Jan 2013 #12
SoapBox Jan 2013 #14
Indyfan53 Jan 2013 #17
Ellipsis Jan 2013 #18
judesedit Jan 2013 #19
JDPriestly Jan 2013 #20
graham4anything Jan 2013 #22
JDPriestly Jan 2013 #24
graham4anything Jan 2013 #25
Tagish_Charlie Jan 2013 #21

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:14 PM

1. Sleazy Scott's doing it again.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:15 PM

2. Scott Walker jumps on the Stupid Gop line, he never stops being dirty.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:15 PM

3. ryan won't let him

He wants to run for President and it would cost him electoral votes if that happened.

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Response to dsc (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:17 PM

4. Ryan thinks he'd carry WI?

Fat fucken chance.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:23 PM

6. of course he does

I am not saying he can or can't but I guarantee you he thinks he can.

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Response to dsc (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:31 PM

31. Well, this is one of those cases where a delusional wingnut's crazy beliefs

end up actually being helpful to democracy.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:20 PM

5. When we thought that the Pukes and Baggers could not possibly get any more brazen...

just look!

What the Fuck, America...Wake the Hell UP!

The Dictators will stop at nothing...this is NOT a test, this is NOT a joke.

They want to take total power over YOU.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:24 PM

7. That tears it - I smell Koch money behind all this

Their latest strategy: Rig the elections. The heck with one person-one vote, now it's one district-one vote, and minorities are again relegated to three-fifths of a person status.

This is big trouble for the nation.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:33 PM

8. WTF ??

This tops all Teabagger sequelae from the election. Can't wait until 2014 elections when Teabaggers are voted out and a few more angry white discriminatory men will have died along with their antiquated hate.

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Response to Shuhered (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:03 PM

10. I'll believe it when I see it

Liberals still aren't voting in huge numbers. They will still sit out. Oh, they are voting more than the Conservatives, but still not enough.

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Response to broadcaster75201 (Reply #10)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:07 AM

26. We Voted for House Democrats by a Huge Majority

Gerrymandering has kept the Rapeuglicans in power in the House, and now they intend to use the same gerrymandering to take the Presidency.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:02 PM

9. To Hell with all Liberals who sat out 2010

I guess the TeaBags HAVE found a way to trigger a Civil War.

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Response to broadcaster75201 (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:08 PM

13. To hell with the leaders of the democratic party. It was their weak sauce that kill progressive

momentum. 2006 landslide, 2008 landslide, we get into power and triangulate the shit out of everything, 2010 shellacking.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:15 PM

15. I wish to hell I didn't agree.

But i do. This will not sit well with a large segment of DU but it's the goddam pathetic truth.

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Response to abq e streeter (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:22 PM

16. I knew what was going to happen when Dean was dropped from the DNC and Rahm was appointed COS.

I was almost as if they were trying to blow the 2010 election on purpose. Remember it was Rahm that wanted to kill Dean's 50 state plan, the most successful progressive push in recent history.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 08:16 PM

23. Yup

Been watching, and being appalled by, this spinelessness since Ray-Gun....Dean put a temporary stop to it, so he had to go. I'll never understand it unless it's the most obvious answer of all, that the corporate masters laid down the law.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 06:55 AM

29. Are you claiming he was fired?

Because that seems to be exactly what most seems to believe on DU.

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Response to davidpdx (Reply #29)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:40 PM

30. He saw the writing on the wall and knew Rahm would want a DLC crony there.

The president selects the DNC chair, the president's COS was Rahm, Rahm hates Dean it is not a very complicated formula, Dean stepped down at the end of his term because that is how things are done. Almost no one is ever fired in D.C., they just decide to take on other projects or spend more time with their family, are you not aware of that?

Unfortunately for us our president choose some questionable people to listen to, and Rahm is at the top of that list. The 2010 defeat is Rahm's fault more then any individual other then the POTUS who appointed him.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #30)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:25 PM

32. He actually said he was only going to run for one term

I'm well aware who selects the DNC chair. I just really dislike it when people spread misinformation to blame Obama for something.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:08 AM

27. 2010 Was Due to Citizens United$$$$$$$

We got outspent by 4 to 1 in many critical races.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #27)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:37 AM

28. and Citizens United was paid for and financed by Ralph Nader's being in the race in 2000

 

10 million voters stayed home in 2000 because ralph said both were the same

we need to outlaw 3rd parties altogether

IMHO we should run a primary system where the top two vote getters are the ONLY ones on general election day. NO ONE ELSE

and the top two can be whomever gets the most votes regardless of party

because all third party people (WITH NO EXCEPTIONS) directly lead the winner to being one or the other of the top two.

So we should ban third party and when more than two run, demand a one on one runoff
both below 50% and above it too, and that being the same day

and do so for Gov/Senate/House

make the voter write who their first and second choice is

LIKE ADULTS
we should not have babies who want to waaa waaa whine protest vote throwing the election to the other side

Top Two only in a general.IMHO

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:04 PM

11. cheat at any cost

Dictator Walker sells his soul on e-bay

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:05 PM

12. "The will of the people" means nothing to Walker and his ilk

They just want power and will take it any way they can get it. Lies, deceptions, fraud, theft....doesn't matter to them.

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Response to mokawanis (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:12 PM

14. Ditto.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:36 PM

17. WAKE UP, WISCONSIN!

You let this corrupt scumbag stay in power to ruin you state! Get off your asses and vote him and the rest of his henchmen out of office! Flood the polling stations and make your voices heard. Don't let anyone turn you away!

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Response to Indyfan53 (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:54 PM

18. You're barking up the wrong tree pal... you think people from Wis who post on DU...

are sitting on thier ass's?

Go bark over at free republic.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:56 PM

19. The main thing worth looking at right now is getting rid of Walker altogether.WI doing poorly under

him

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:17 PM

20. Actually, the fairest thing would be to get rid of the electoral college and decide

who is president by popular vote.

The electoral college gives too many votes, too much influence to states like Montana and Wyoming and too little to states like California and New York.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:08 PM

22. I disagree. It is easier to blackmail or bribe by popular vote...this is a red herring

 

to get dems to rush and change

if Ryan ran for president and won WI, he would be the loser in this

If Christie was Pres/VP candidate, and won PA, Hillary45 would get more votes

Hillary45 will win five or six red states

Texas will turn blue

Best to leave it and just run a different campaign
at which time a good candidate will still win

constant is not constant as one doesn't only more one thing not all the others.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #22)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 03:00 AM

24. The system as it is cheats those of us who live in large states.

The electoral college is based on the total number of senators and representatives from a state to a great extent. California has only two senators. As individual voters, our votes count less in the electoral college than the votes of individuals who happen to reside in Montana. It is extremely unfair.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #24)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:01 AM

25. Would that have changed 2000?

 

when you have a Ralph Nader causing 10 million voters to stay home?

remember if you were into politics in 1999-2000, the common thought was that Bush would win the popular vote and Gore would win the electoral vote, and Bush would use the
illegitimate tag on Gore

It ended up being a major surprise to most that Gore actually won the popular vote and was unexpected.

a direct popular vote would only work IMHO if the same day voters had to pick their 2nd choice if neither candidates got 50%.

Because you can bet a Sheldon Adelson, or the Koch brothers would attempt, in a direct vote race that the winner wins with no run off, MANY other candidates, all republicans at heart
or bribes some (let's say angry democratic person who quits in a huff or loses their seat,

so for the example, let's say Sheldon Adelson told AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE,
(we won't use 2000 because well, that indeed is what happened with the ahole Nader)

but let's use 2008, let's say in 2008 Sheldon A. gave sleezeball John Edwards a billion dollars to run independent. Who would say the sleeze wouldn't have jumped at the chance and being that his ploy was turned down to be in the cabinet, exacted his revenge and that would have given McCain say an extra 10% popular vote
THIS IS ONLY A FAKE EXAMPLE. BUT it is politics and it is NOT illegal by any means
(aka-Nader did it and some still idolize the fool).

CAN ONE SAY THAT WOULDN'T THEORETICALLY could not have HAPPENED in 2008?

All it would take is money.

You can NOT bet on baseball and be sure you bet on the winner
(you cannot soft toss a pitch and guarantee a HR, as so many in the HR derby do NOT go out of the ball park).
HOWEVER if you play to have someone lose, you sure as hell can, by having an error, or a wild pitch with the bases loaded after walking three in a row in a tied ballgame.

It is why every democratic voter needs to vote, at any and all costs and time.
and we need to play the game one dollar richer, and one ounce of dirt dirtier than they do.

because a winner does what a loser won't- which is get seated.

It is far too easy to bribe one candidate, than it is to mess with the electoral college as long as all the voters possible vote.

(btw, on the other side, Ross Perot did just that with his personal grudge against 41.
He was not against the Bush message, as he supported W and will support Jeb against HIllary45.
It was personal against 41 only.
He ran to make sure 41 lost.
Do you think a meglamaniac billionaire would be scared off by a simple dirty trick?
He did not want to win.
He wanted to stop 41
and he did.
But never should a president be seated with just 41 percent, even if we want that candidate.
think about it.

they should outlaw third party runs before thinking of going to a popular vote without same day runoff(I personally would outlaw them anyhow, have a direct primary, top two over 50% after a few rounds, run in the general election, no matter the party)
(AND NOT a later run off, it has to be same day, you can't run a second campaign quickly.)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:57 PM

21. What Scott Walker really means is

 

the nerferious plan to pervert the electoral process to favor Teabaggers has given him a hardon a cat can't scratch

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