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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:04 PM

Steve Wozniak attacks Steve Jobs biopic

Source: Guardian

The Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has issued a stinging criticism of the new biopic of his fellow computing pioneer, the late Steve Jobs, after a clip from the film was released on the internet before its premiere at the Sundance film festival.

The clip shows actors Ashton Kutcher (as Jobs) and Josh Gad (as Wozniak) discussing the merits of the computer operating system Wozniak has just developed. Jobs is seen trying to inspire a sceptical Wozniak as to the potential future impact of home computers, before the Wozniak character shouts: "Nobody wants to buy a computer. Nobody!"

However, Wozniak, 62, in a series of messages posted on the Gizmodo website where the clip first played, said the portrayal was "not close". "We never had such interaction," he wrote. Denying the accuracy of the scene he also stated: "I'm not even sure what it's getting at ... personalities are very wrong."

Wozniak, who is known in the tech community as "Woz", also implied that far from Jobs being the inspirational leader, at that time it was far more probable that Jobs was learning from Wozniak about the possibilities of personal computing.

His idea was to make a $20 PC board and sell it for $40 to help people at the club build the computer I'd given away. He always saw a way to make a quick buck off my designs."


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2013/jan/26/steve-wozniak-steve-jobs-biopic



I'm sure this movie will be taken as a history class by many kids

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Reply Steve Wozniak attacks Steve Jobs biopic (Original post)
AlphaCentauri Jan 2013 OP
Ian David Jan 2013 #1
Archae Jan 2013 #2
BootinUp Jan 2013 #26
DaveJ Jan 2013 #3
AlphaCentauri Jan 2013 #6
obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #4
ChromeFoundry Jan 2013 #5
defacto7 Jan 2013 #8
frylock Jan 2013 #9
defacto7 Jan 2013 #7
Paulie Jan 2013 #10
joshcryer Jan 2013 #11
Zorro Jan 2013 #23
Xithras Jan 2013 #14
Tab Jan 2013 #19
defacto7 Jan 2013 #31
alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #18
Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2013 #29
defacto7 Jan 2013 #30
Yavin4 Jan 2013 #12
Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #15
Yavin4 Jan 2013 #22
supercats Jan 2013 #13
valerief Jan 2013 #16
Crowman1979 Jan 2013 #17
WCGreen Jan 2013 #20
Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #21
Crowman1979 Jan 2013 #24
Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #25
longship Jan 2013 #27
defacto7 Jan 2013 #32
Politicub Jan 2013 #28

Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:06 PM

1. The part where Steve Jobs is digitized and held captive by the Master Control Program is a stretch.

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:08 PM

2. Is Oliver Stone making this movie?

Sounds like his work...

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Response to Archae (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:02 PM

26. lol nt

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:19 PM

3. "He always saw a way to make a quick buck off my designs"

Appears Hollywood is still making a quick buck of his designs.

That's how the tech industry has worked from the beginning... people profiting from and taking credit for the accomplishments of the real techies who actually did the work. I understand the two must work in harmony, but it seems to be unevenly balanced toward the guy who likes to stand on a stage.

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Response to DaveJ (Reply #3)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:47 PM

6. Agree, most of the time the credit goes to the front man

while other make him posible

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 09:45 PM

4. Other people who knew Jobs say it's dead on

Who knows.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:01 PM

5. It is a piece of fiction...

When asked for comment, jOBS publicist Amanda Lundberg responded with the following statement:

"The film is not a documentary, nor is it meant to be a blow by blow, word for word account of all conversations and events. The filmmakers have tremendous admiration and respect for Wozniak and all those that are portrayed in the film, and did extensive research in an effort to make an entertaining accurate film that captures the essence and story of Steve Jobs and those that built Apple with him."


Itís also worth noting that Wozniak himself did not act as a consultant on jOBS


Source

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:14 PM

8. and there are a lot of people

who still stand to make a buck on Jobs' coattails.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:27 AM

9. i'm sure there's no shortage of sycophants still jocking jobs' corpse

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:11 PM

7. It's about time Woz spoke up.

I've been waiting for him to speak. And I'm sure his viewpoint is far closer to reality than Jobs word ever was.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:30 AM

10. He's talked about the early days in this presentation at Gnomedex 4.0

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:34 AM

11. +1

Woz is too nice for his own good, he tends to never opine about these types of things regarding Apple.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:50 PM

23. In a more innocent time

back in the early 80's Woz had a sign on the road beside his house in the Santa Cruz mountains that said "Woz's Place".

He always struck me as an affable nice guy. One of his first post-Apple designs was a programmable IR remote, years before they became so pervasive. (I still have one stuffed away somewhere.)

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 05:42 AM

14. Woz walks a fine line with Apple.

On one hand, he has spoken up quietly a few times about the fact that he's not exactly an Apple fanboy. He's not thrilled with the way the company is run, and readily admits to using both Apple and Android mobile devices...stating more than once that each platform is superior to the other in different ways. He's also an advocate of ending the war between Android and iOS, and making the platforms inter-operable (he differed sharply from Jobs on that point...Jobs wanted an Apple "victory" so that iOS would remain the dominant platform, while Woz has long been an advocate of diversity in technology, open platforms, and global interoperability).

On the other hand, Woz created Apple, and has always been hesitant to oppose it strongly because it IS still his creation (he was once quoted as saying something along the lines of Apple being like a "poorly behaved adult child...you may be disappointed in their choices and the way they are living their life, but you never stop caring about them"). He's also still a stockholder and derives income from Apple, and doesn't want to undermine it (Woz notably didn't become nearly as rich as Jobs, because Woz famously gave much of his original ownership stake away to friends, family, and early employees, so where Jobs was worth about $30 billion when he died, Woz's wealth is "only" in the millions).

Still, Woz has a reputation for speaking the truth, no matter the fallout. If he's worried about blowback, he's more apt to say nothing at all, than to say something to placate the press. If he says that the script is inaccurate, I tend to believe him.

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Response to Xithras (Reply #14)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:37 AM

19. True (about income) but

Steve Jobs net worth is also derived from Pixar, which hs been no small success, and Woz stepped away from Apple early on after his plane crash, whereas Jobs went on to NeXT and then Pixar and then Apple (again).

Woz has dumped his money into various ventures of various return and has been pretty charitable; Jobs didn't give a dime away.

Interesting article at http://www.mac-history.net/apple-people/2011-01-30/how-the-founders-of-apple-got-rich

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Response to Xithras (Reply #14)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:53 AM

31. I really appreciate you comment.

A lot of good information. Thanks.

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Response to defacto7 (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:40 AM

18. Indeed...Woz is a programmer...Jobs was a carnival barker

Come on, the mythology is getting out of control. I'm glad Woz is finally saying "Enough!"

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 09:17 PM

29. Carnival barker?

That's a bit of an exaggeration:

Apple w/o Jobs:



Apple with Jobs:



Got nuthin against Wozniak. Jobs wasn't exactly perfect, but the pics say it all as to his business acumen.

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Response to Benton D Struckcheon (Reply #29)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:51 AM

30. It means absolutely nothing.

Sorry but money is not the point... at least not to me. And the graph is as indicative of a financial climate that needed advertising strength and a lot of empty hope. With or without Jobs, it could very well have done the same. Nothing against Jobs but he was not an innovator, he was a product pusher (could have been corn flakes) and a rather unethical businessman.

Hmmm.... maybe I do have something against Jobs.

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:25 AM

12. Wait. I'm Supposed to Take a Movie Starring Ashton Kutcher Seriously? n/t

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 08:00 AM

15. No, as a matter of fact your not. Another indicator is the writer/director who has made two films

one of which went direct to dvd in spite of 'name' cast the other was 'Swing Vote' which was financed by Kevin Costner as his idea of how to influence the 2008 elections.
Not promising, to say the least.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:25 PM

22. Was Keanu Reeves Not Available?

Look a Mac! Whoa!

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:54 AM

13. You Got To Give Credence To What Wozniak Says

He's the only other living person left to substantiate it. Also the line by the posts creator "I'm sure this movie will be taken as a history class by many kids" is a sad, scary and ultimately truthful comment on our society.

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 09:52 AM

16. I'm waiting to hear what Kathy says about this. nt

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:21 AM

17. If Ashton Kutcher stars in it, then you know this movie is gonna suck.

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:46 PM

20. Mennnnnn.....

He can't even fill Charlie Sheens shoes...

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 02:33 PM

21. "Pirates of Silicon Valley" was a good movie....

I portrayed Steve Jobs and Bill Gates as the con men, egomaniacs and crooks that they were.

It also showed how monumentally STUPID the executive class was,...and still is.

The scene where the best and brightest at Xerox went before the board with their new invention was very telling.

The old guy sitting there all self important saying, "You expect a company like Xerox to get behind something called a 'mouse'?"

Another was where an employee had a contract on his ideas being the property of the company he was working for showing of the first PC in a plywood cabinet and the guy saying, "This is supposed to be for average people? What would average people want with a computer?"

Keep in mind, these are the wonderful "Job Creators" the Republicans love.

They're fucking idiots who can't see beyond the next quarter's balance sheets.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:53 PM

24. Anthony Michael Hall is quite an underrated actor.

His Bill Gates portrayal was spot-on. He was also great in portraying Mutt Lange as well.

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Response to Crowman1979 (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 06:57 PM

25. I'll always remember him in "The Breakfast Club".

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:10 PM

27. Hollywood is rubbish.

They only know about marketing. Their history is a shambles. The way they portray historic figures is horrible. Events are trivialized by insipid, idiotic subplots which are only designed to sell, not to tell.

Plus, creativity is gone. How many remakes/sequels do we need? Hollywood milks the last penny from any creative franchise, destroying it in the process.

I could cite so many examples, but we all know them.

I love cinema, but Hollywood utterly sucks.

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Response to longship (Reply #27)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:54 AM

32. ^^ This ^^

n/t

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 07:21 PM

28. Drama! Meow!

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