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Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:17 PM

Milwaukee County sheriff urges residents to arm themselves

Source: WISN 12 news (abc)

Radio ad features David Clarke encouraging gun ownership



MILWAUKEE A Wisconsin sheriff is urging citizens to learn to handle firearms -- so they can defend themselves until authorities arrive.

Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke Jr. released the radio ad this week telling residents that when it comes to personal safety: "I need you in the game."

In the ad, Clarke said that calling 911 alone and waiting for officers to arrive may not be enough due to layoffs and furloughs.

He said in the ad that citizens can either beg for mercy, hide or "fight back."






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Reply Milwaukee County sheriff urges residents to arm themselves (Original post)
hue Jan 2013 OP
Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2013 #1
L0oniX Jan 2013 #2
frylock Jan 2013 #3
The Jungle 1 Jan 2013 #4
elfin Jan 2013 #5
99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #7
kardonb Jan 2013 #14
Freddie Stubbs Jan 2013 #18
forthemiddle Jan 2013 #42
DavidWD72 Jan 2013 #44
hp6 Jan 2013 #6
kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #11
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #13
CreekDog Jan 2013 #17
greiner3 Jan 2013 #29
lunasun Jan 2013 #30
Tunkamerica Jan 2013 #36
libdem4life Jan 2013 #46
dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #47
libdem4life Jan 2013 #49
Tunkamerica Jan 2013 #50
oldbanjo Jan 2013 #8
LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #22
oldbanjo Jan 2013 #38
LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #40
kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #9
Brigid Jan 2013 #10
quakerboy Jan 2013 #12
glinda Jan 2013 #15
LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #23
glinda Jan 2013 #27
RKP5637 Jan 2013 #34
pipoman Jan 2013 #16
lunasun Jan 2013 #31
pipoman Jan 2013 #33
loli phabay Jan 2013 #45
DavidWD72 Jan 2013 #19
forthemiddle Jan 2013 #43
Xithras Jan 2013 #20
mlr Jan 2013 #21
LiberalFighter Jan 2013 #24
nick of time Jan 2013 #25
coalition_unwilling Jan 2013 #26
lunasun Jan 2013 #32
SoapBox Jan 2013 #35
libdem4life Jan 2013 #48
daleo Jan 2013 #28
Scuba Jan 2013 #37
Wolf Frankula Jan 2013 #39
Evasporque Jan 2013 #41

Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:22 PM

1. Wait till someone shoots through a door and kills a cop.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:23 PM

2. Oh oh...

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:34 PM

3. fuck voting for increased taxes in order to fund the PD..

arm up, mutherfuckers! unbelievable.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:34 PM

4. crap

We have no problem affording massive amounts of socialist corporate welfare but we can't afford cops or education.
yea right
This will not end well!

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:57 PM

5. Nobody really listens to him in the Milwaukee area

A wacko, who just loves publicity. Of course, a Rethug.

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Response to elfin (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:08 PM

7. This Sheriff clearly needs to be locked up somewhere safe.

A clear danger to self and others.

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Response to elfin (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:40 PM

14. nobody

he sounds like gold old Arpayo in AZ ; just another publicitv hound .

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Response to elfin (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:08 PM

18. How does he keep getting reelected?

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Response to elfin (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:02 PM

42. Actually runs as a Democrat (wink wink) and keeps getting reelected

Sheriff Clark does have a huge Republican following in the rest of the State, because he is a very outspoken "Crime and Punishment" official. But obviously the people of Milwaukee County like that, because he gets reelected.

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Response to forthemiddle (Reply #42)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 02:53 PM

44. I remember...

If you want to get a heavy long lasting headache, read up on Milwaukee politics. I remember living there all too well and won't be visiting if I can help it.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:00 PM

6. Well, i hate to say it but in some places it may be necessary.

 

I remeber hearing about citys in CA that were going bankrupt and laying off police officers. The only thing people had to rely on were themselves. Technically, the police don't have a legal obligation to protect you as an individual, only society as a whole. If you call 911 and you are injured because the police were too busy or they went to the wrong address you can't sue them.

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Response to hp6 (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:29 PM

11. This is what happens when no taxes are collected. It's tragic, but what are we to do??

We need to first make sure that the wealthiest among us need not give up their vacation homes, or their eighteen cars, or their nightly champagne and caviar. If that means that society completely breaks down and the 99% simply die in the streets.........

oh well.............

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Response to hp6 (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:39 PM

13. True..one calls the police AFTER the problem has surfaced.

In the county I live in, there still are very very few home invasions, because people have dogs and guns.
You would almost have to know your victim personally and determine there was no gun.
Otherwise it is a given that there are guns around.
Mostly rifles and shotguns, since hunting is a huge deal around here.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:53 PM

17. there are basically no home invasions in my neighborhood either

and most of us don't have guns.

i don't think there is that correlation.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:41 PM

29. "17. there are basically no home invasions in my neighborhood either"

Nor mine.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:47 PM

30. +1 same thought here!!!!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 03:04 AM

36. There are "virtually" no home invasions period.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:36 PM

46. Also, inexpensive, digital home alarm systems. Still, I'll take a big, loud, but loving family dog

over the horrendous odds of an in-home/domestic/suicidal gun accident any day. The statistics on suicide or death by family dog is pretty low. Many people who don't have alarm systems still post the front yard notice. I used to have a big sign on my back yard gate ... "Beware: Big, Hungry Dog patrols this back yard." Actually, it was a couple of cats who could run any other cat out with a couple of shrieking war meows. To my knowledge, in almost 20 years, it was never tested.

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #46)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 04:51 PM

47. I agree.

We have a Golden, the friendliest dog on earth, I have taught him to bark like crazy when people enter the yard.
He sounds HUGE and angry.
Not too many people know he is a lovebug.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #47)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:10 PM

49. And those who do know, don't threaten your personal goods or safety...that's the good news.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 03:01 AM

50. We had only goldens growing up.

Now since they've died and my little brother lives in my parents' old house alone it's been broken into twice. Once successfully. Of course he thinks he knows who it is and he works two jobs and lives alone so no one is home 16 hours at a time, but I wish he'd get a dog... or a roommate with a different schedule

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:22 PM

8. A sheriff in Spartanburg SC wrote put a notice

in the Newspapers telling women to get a gun and protect themselves from rapist.

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #8)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:16 PM

22. I heard that sheriff is a rapist. Should he still be shot?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 11:37 AM

38. That's why we need the same guns that the police have.

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Response to oldbanjo (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:38 PM

40. No we need to keep those people out of those positions.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:26 PM

9. It's a shame that the citizens of Milwaukee County don't have ANY money that they could

pool together to pay for more LEOs. The grinding poverty there must be almost like the slums of Calcutta from one end of the county to the next. I assume they are living in mud hovels without electricity, and no one in the whole county even has a job. Banks don't bother opening branches there, there are no stores or indeed any businesses.

No money at all.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:27 PM

10. This guy must be related to Crazy Sheriff Joe.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:35 PM

12. In which case, why do they need a sherriff?

IF we are to protect ourselves, and our neighbors are to do the same, what good are the sherriffs? If I have an issue, I shoot the guy, and if there are too many for that, I call my neigbor and we shoot the guys. Cops not needed.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:41 PM

15. It was suggested to me by someone in a

position of the Law (way high up the chain and in the position to know for many reasons) that the conservatives goal was to bring the Country to the point where outcomes were determined by basically "gun fights", like the old West. Eight years have passed since I was told this and I have witnessed this look more and more like the absolute truth. IS this really what the NRA hopes for? Then they truly will make tons of money.

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Response to glinda (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:18 PM

23. Well if that is the case I may need to get me the appropriate firearm(s)

and make sure to stand my ground when confronting the gun crazies.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:28 PM

27. That is what they want.

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Response to glinda (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:22 AM

34. Yes, IMO, that IS what the NRA wants, the manufactures and the gun crazy element. This

country is becoming unfit to lead the world ... it's all about $$$$$, lives do not matter, $$$$$ matters to them.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 07:51 PM

16. There are places in my state it could

take an hour or more for the police to arrive..it could take 30 minutes to get them to my house..then it's likely to be one officer. No, most people in places like this consider their own security in one way or another..mostly by arming themselves and keeping dogs.

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Response to pipoman (Reply #16)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:54 PM

31. Are you in Milwaukee county? I never think of it as rural or isolated

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Response to lunasun (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:02 AM

33. No, but the effect can be the same

if they are so understaffed it takes an hour or more to respond..

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Response to pipoman (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 03:56 PM

45. regardless of staffing there will never be enough cops to always be everywhere at once

 

Especially in rural areas. In my county especially in winter the cops may not even be able to get to some locations without walking and taking a lot of time.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:18 PM

19. Nothing new for Sheriff Clarke.

He's been running for higher office since at least 2004. He puts his deputies on patrols in city neighborhoods. Looking to step up the official ladder.

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Response to DavidWD72 (Reply #19)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 12:07 PM

43. He hasn't run for ANYTHING since becoming Sheriff

Not sure what you are talking about, but there was talk that he might run for County Executive last cycle, but he decided against it.

He is a Democrat (on paper anyway), and last year probably would have been his best shot but he says he wants to continue to be Sheriff, and he keeps getting reelected, so...............................

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:27 PM

20. One of the sheriff's here in California did that a couple of years ago.

And for the same reason. The county kept cutting his budget, so he publicly said that he could no longer guarantee the ability of his department to respond to crimes and recommended that people buy guns. Then he went even FURTHER and opened up his CCW policy. Stanislaus County is effectively "shall issue" at this point, so long as you have a clean criminal history and list "personal safety" as your reason for requesting it.

This has been a concern for other counties for a few years now, as CCW's are valid statewide. It's all but impossible for a resident of LA or San Francisco to get a CCW, but there's nothing stopping someone from Modesto from walking around either of those cities with a legal concealed firearm, using the CCW issued by their home county. As you might imagine, there are LOTS of LEO's in neighboring counties who are less than thrilled by the sheriff's decision.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 10:42 PM

21. arm yourself

 

I live in a rural area in Oregon, and everyone I know owns numerous guns. I dont know of anyone who has had a home invasion. I have always been against the practice of all governments to tax people, then send the taxes to the general fund. They then use the taxes for numerous projects and expenditures, but when there is a shortfall, they say they cant fund the basic things the populous needs, then they cut police and fire but keep the other less needed services.
I suggest an idea that the first thing to be cut in any budget shortfall, is the last thing implemented until you get down to the police and fire services which would be the last to go. From here you go to volunteer fire fighters and police. This is only fair and equitable, and common sense. America was built without professional fire and police and took care of their own, and it was the industrial revolution that sent most people into the cities. Maybe it's time to reverse the process.

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Response to mlr (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:19 PM

24. Troll Alert

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #24)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:27 PM

26. was it "the populous needs" that first clued you

 

in?

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:01 AM

32. And these trolls are not descibing what Milwaukee WI is like.....or actually have no idea

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:42 AM

35. Just ask'n...

and I suppose that I'll be labeled a troll supporter, get reported and flamed for asking this...

They stated:

"...live in a rural area in Oregon, and everyone I know owns numerous guns. I dont know of anyone who has had a home invasion."

and

"...until you get down to the police and fire services which would be the last to go."

From the replies...you'all are saying that the "home invasion" statement is wrong? All of you know people who have had many
home invasions? Gee, I never hear about any on the news...I guess...point?

AND

Police and Fire Services would be last to go, during budget cutting processes...you disagree? You want them cut, first????

Sorry folks, I didn't see anything trollish about these two parts of the post.

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Response to mlr (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 05:00 PM

48. It's a "Red State-Blue State" or "rural-urban-suburban" issue. Face it, what intelligent burglar

is going to drive his pickup truck or van 30-40 miles to chance to burglarize a rural home...unless s/he knows no one is home or has some indication that there are moveable, pawnable or quickly saleable items that will make it worth the heist...at which point an owner's gun does no good. And those that do happen are often "inside jobs". That's what home security systems are for. Leaving aside the emotional subject of guns or weapons, especially if a home is not known to house said weapons, not likely to happen.

It's kind of like trick-or-treating...excuse the reference...but best to go where the pickings are good. Usually, in urban/suburban areas, someone has left open a car door or a back door. Twice I had burglaries...once was when my car was inadvertently left unlocked...thief got a couple of bucks from change in the ash tray...and the other time my son's school pack was left in his truck, in sight, and a shoddy lock got easily busted or more likely, he left it unlocked. There wasn't a true break-in in the suburban neighborhood for years...unless something was left unlocked.

Second the "industrial revolution" reference...for ill or for good...comes with the demographics.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 11:35 PM

28. Maybe warlords and neighbourhood militias are next

The rich can have private armies...

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Response to hue (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 06:27 AM

37. It's not news that Clarke is nuts. This is just his latest.

http://www.620wtmj.com/blogs/charliesykes/184074161.html

"Liberals are shameful."



http://uppitywis.org/tags/david-clarke

"Apparently this partisan hack has pulled his head out of his ass once again to say something stupid. The next time little boy Weishan says something intelligent or accurate will be the first. This is the same idiot who recently diminished the danger of law enforcement work several weeks before one of my officers lost his life in the line of duty. He would do Milwaukee County good by crawling back into his hole. -- Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, after Supervisor John Weishan questioned Clarke providing more security for a Romney-Ryan rally than he did for President Obama.

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Response to hue (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 12:20 PM

39. Maybe He's Connected with a Hispanic Organization called the Freedom Fighters

with their slogan of Disarm the Police! Arm the People!. But he's probably just another wingnut.

Wolf

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Response to hue (Original post)

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 01:46 PM

41. Home invasion rare in Milwaukee...armed RW crazy shootings up...

A old racist dude shot a black teen dead because he said the kid robbed him.

Born again Mega Church Christian Iraq Veteran stalked and shot his police officer wife four times in the face, way to save him Elmbrook.

Guy who was told by courts to give up weapons after domestic violence opens fire on people at a salon killing his wife.

Right Wing Nazi Racist opens fire in a temple kills peaceful unarmed worshippers shoots police officer ten times.

Right wing crazy opens fire on christian church meeting in a hotel.



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