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Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:21 PM

Application fees for Idaho Citadel being sent to group linked to extortionist

Source: Idaho Statesman

Application fees that may total more than $40,000 for people hoping to join an armed community in northern Idaho are being sent to a political group tied to a man with federal extortion and firearms convictions on his record.

People who want to join the Citadel — a walled, pro-gun community being advertised online — must pay $208 to apply. The planners said on the Citadel's website in December that more than 200 applications had been filed.

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Christian Kerodin was sentenced in federal court in Virginia nine years ago to 30 months in prison and a $6,000 fine after pleading guilty to extortion and possessing and unregistered firearm.

The extortion charge arose after Kerodin published a report online of shopping malls that he said were likely terrorist targets, and presented himself as a security expert, according to news accounts from 2004. Kerodin reportedly sent letters to mall owners saying he would release similar reports on 14 other malls, then demanded $122,500 from a Department of Homeland Security agent posing as a mall executive.


Read more: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/01/22/2421922/application-fees-for-idaho-citadel.html

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Reply Application fees for Idaho Citadel being sent to group linked to extortionist (Original post)
IDemo Jan 2013 OP
Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #1
Atman Jan 2013 #4
Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #5
phantom power Jan 2013 #10
Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #11
TheMadMonk Jan 2013 #17
Atman Jan 2013 #2
BumRushDaShow Jan 2013 #3
cer7711 Jan 2013 #6
phantom power Jan 2013 #8
cer7711 Jan 2013 #12
2pooped2pop Jan 2013 #9
jmowreader Jan 2013 #21
grantcart Jan 2013 #7
southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #13
kelliekat44 Jan 2013 #14
kelliekat44 Jan 2013 #15
Bandit Jan 2013 #16
YOHABLO Jan 2013 #18
Frank Cannon Jan 2013 #19
jmowreader Jan 2013 #20
JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2013 #22
Katashi_itto Jan 2013 #23

Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:31 PM

1. They've actually had people APPLY for that bullshit??

Jesus fucking Christ why did I ever go to college and grad school without learning how to bilk suckers for their money??

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:48 PM

4. Do you ever see the tv show "Shameless?"

A little tough to watch, but it's just about my favorite thing on tv. It's about a poor extended family with a raging alcoholic dad and a crazy mother who abandoned them years ago. The oldest daughter of six kids (the blazing hot Emmy Rossum) cares for the kids. They're perpetually broke, no one has a legit job, drunk dad is constantly stealing the rent money or pulling disability scams.

Anyway, last Sunday's episode was great; The oldest daughter uses the already overdue property tax money to buy her way into hosting a club gig, thinking she'll make a big profit and be able to pay the taxes with some left over. Of course, things don't exactly work out. Brother warns her (and here is my point, and how it relates to your post): "Poor people can't ahead. There's no way to actually make enough money unless you're stealing or scamming."

Bilking suckers.

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Response to Atman (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:52 PM

5. I was a kid at the time, but I do remember a common phrase from some adults:

"You gotta steal to survive in today's Reaganomics"

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:38 PM

10. I bet there's enough preppers to support that kind of community.

We'll see. Saying you like the idea and packing the family off to Idaho are two different things. Still, considering the number of people who start these kinds of survivalist 2nd (or primary) homesteads all by themselves, I can imagine it.

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Response to phantom power (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:42 PM

11. We saw all of this during Y2K, and even earlier when they were scared shitless of Janet Reno

And despite their lofty plans, we all know this "community" (if it becomes reality) will be some tents and porta-potties, lacking pretty much every basic necessity aside from guns and ammo...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:15 PM

17. Scam e-mails are badly written for a reason.

 

Only the truly dumb and gullible will overlook the errors. And they're the ones who will come through with payment after payment.

Pay your $208 and qualify to pour^h^h^h^hinvest even more money.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:32 PM

2. More Gun Nuttery.


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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:42 PM

3. A fool and his money are soon parted.... n/t

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:56 PM

6. If This Citadel Community Ever Gets Off the Ground . . .

. . . I hope we track the instances of domestic abuse that are sure to occur within those hallowed, "pro-gun" walls and compare them to the community-at-large that exists outside those walls.

Because here's the thing: I can understand a wide variety of demographic types being "pro-gun" in the sense that they just happen to own one or two firearms (for whatever purposes). What sets off alarm bells in this instance is the notion that this community, in particular, is (a) being formed with the notion that its denizens are under siege and need to retreat behind fortified walls, (b) feel the need to identify themselves as "pro-gun" before any and all other social identifiers, and (c) are presumably ready and willing to pay $40k each to a convicted extortionist, fear-mongering con-man and unregistered firearm owner in order to "commune and convivify" with their own. And by "their own" I mean paranoid, violent and (most probably--does anyone doubt it?) openly racist.

What flag will they fly inside this armed and angry citadel, I wonder? I'm not asking a rhetorical question; I truly do wonder. A blood-red swastika banner? (Too on-the-nose, I suspect.) The rebel flag of the Confederacy? (Ditto.) The Don't-Tread-On-Me hissing snake flag adopted by the Tea-baggers? (There's a strong possibility.) A Smith-&-Wesson (or other gun company) logo? (They might sponsor the community for the privilege of having their corporate banner flown atop the citadel's ramparts.) A US flag flown upside down to indicate distress? (Another strong possibility.)

This won't end well, I fear . . .

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Response to cer7711 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:35 PM

8. I've been poking around the website for the Citadel...

They make a point of claiming that they intend to abide by "all constitutional state and federal laws", and that "they do not intend to antagonize the govt in any way"

I have a pet theory that the adjective "constitutional" might be dog-whistle for "we're going to declare any laws we don't like unconstitutional and blow them off, probably on the down low."

However, on the face of it, they are making a statement that they aren't attempting to start some kind of revolutionary or anti govt community.

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Response to phantom power (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:49 PM

12. That Might Be a Pre-emptive Strike Against the "Aryan Nations"

types out there Idaho-way who are a bit too overt and open about their neo-fascist proclivities and sympathies.

It'll be interesting--and instructive--to see how this all turns out. I suspect there is at least a 50% chance that the investors might lose a sizable portion (or the entirety) of their investment with nothing to show for it but fading fever-dreams of separatist life and well-thumbed, Mad-Max-world-like "Retire Behind the Walls of Our Armed Citadel!" prospectuses . . .

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Response to cer7711 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 03:38 PM

9. I imagine High Noon will come soon enough

ANd these asshats will begin shooting each other. I can't wait. They are doing us a huge favor by gathering in one spot like that too.

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Response to cer7711 (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:11 PM

21. What I am thinking...

They will fly three flags: a 13-star US flag because that's when Life Was Good In America, a Don't Tread On Me flag (which is the right color, if nothing else) and a flag with the logo of III Arms, the gun company that actually owns The Citadel.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 02:57 PM

7. Well residents will be comforted that Kerodin will not be one of those able to own a fire arm.

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2010/11/three-letter-frog-in-kerodins-pocket.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/osint/message/36461

http://politicker.com/2013/01/meet-the-men-who-want-to-build-an-armed-castle-commune-for-patriots/

Mr. Kerodin was sentenced to 30 months in prison for the crime and an associated firearms charge. As a federal felon, Mr. Kerodin cannot own a weapon, but on his website, he says he is “exploring” legal avenues to “recover” his “firearms rights.”

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:31 PM

13. No good will come to this kind of a place. None what so ever. I can see it now. When

 

a dog goes to a neighbor's yard and take a crap the home owner will get upset and shoot the dog and then the dog's owner will come over and shoot the guy that killed his dog. Before you know it all the neighbors will be outside defending their neighbor. Crazy but I bet something like that will happen.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:44 PM

14. Good. I hope they all lose money to this fraud. nt

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:46 PM

15. I also hope that the IRS does real tax enforcement on these people and conficates property if they

break the tax laws.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:58 PM

16. I would bet you could count the minorities that apply on one finger

Sounds like an all white good ol' boy club where anything goes to me..

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:00 PM

18. I feel for the people of Idaho who have to put up with these nut cases. Maybe ..

this way we can keep them contained.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 23, 2013, 08:25 AM

19. Having spent much of my life in Idaho...

I can assure you that these screwballs will be welcomed with open arms.

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 09:04 PM

20. The consensus of opinion in Benewah County is "wtf?"

We print the newspaper for that county, and I read the articles and letters to the editor. There have been several about the Citadel, and so far no one--including the extremely-far-right managing editor of the newspaper--is in favor of five thousand maniacs building a walled fortress out there. You shoulda been here the night we printed the first paper about this: the married couple who run the paper back to St. Maries were on their phones laughing their asses off over this shit. You'd have thought someone gave them tickets to the greatest comedian in the world. It was truly delightful.

Some things I know:

Christian Allen Kerodin was convicted of extortion. He tried to get Washington, DC-area malls to employ him as a security consultant by threatening to publicize their security problems if they didn't hire him. Thirty months in the slammer later, he is no longer legally allowed to own weapons.

If you are approved for admittance, you will be allowed to LEASE, not buy, land. This is probably so they can kick you out if you turn out to be a Democrat anyway, although why a Democrat - or a Republican, for that matter - would want to live in the middle of fucking nowhere is beyond me. He calls it a "lifetime lease, payable in 30 years." Anyone who's read The Jungle knows this is the same setup they used to sell houses to the Slavic immigrant community in Packingtown.

They have a hunk of land at the top of Cherry Creek Road that will be their administrative office. This further proves these guys haven't ever actually been to Benewah County; they could get the land up there because it's only completely inaccessible two months out of the year. No one lives there now, and there's a reason for that. There are people who live on Cherry Creek Road, but the homes end long before the road does.

Their claimed land requirement is somewhere between 640 and 2500 acres. 640 acres is a square mile, or "section." 2500 acres, not coincidentally, is how large George W. Bush's ranch is. I imagine Shrub would be happy to part with it, seeing as how its only function was to make news coverage of him as difficult as possible.

One of the requirements for living in The Citadel is that you must maintain a year's supply of provisions. Considering where they're moving to, that's not a bad requirement: there are places in Benewah County that are only accessible by helicopter part of the year, and they're also the only places anyone can afford to buy a contiguous section.

The guy claims there will be "zero property taxes" in his walled fortress. I'm fairly certain whoever replaced my sister as Benewah County Assessor has other ideas. He says there won't be a code enforcement official, which also makes sense: people will be too afraid of getting shot for planting the wrong flowers in their window boxes to question code.

They also plan to support themselves through the manufacture of firearms - this makes sense, because the guy who is setting up this crazy ass scheme is a small gun manufacturer.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 06:01 AM

22. I wonder if the Citadel will publish the homeowners association rules.

That document should make for interesting reading.

Probably scribbled on old c-ration boxes.

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Response to IDemo (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 08:28 AM

23. Shit, I need to start something like this up...Right Wingers love to throw money away

Friggin walking wallets, no brains, just a bunch of money walking around to be harvested

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