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Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:37 AM

Toxic Melamine Released From Bowls Serving Hot Soup, Study Finds

Source: Bloomberg News

Toxic Melamine Released From Bowls Serving Hot Soup, Study Finds
By Bloomberg News - Jan 21, 2013 3:00 PM CT

Melamine, the chemical that killed infants in a milk-formula scandal in China in 2008, may be ingested when it’s used to serve hot food, a study found.

The toxic chemical is released from melamine-containing tableware when exposed to boiling-hot substances, researchers at the Kaohsiung Medical University in Taiwan showed. Their study, involving a dozen healthy adult volunteers, detected traces of melamine in urine following consumption of noodle soup consumed from non-breakable melamine bowls.

The finding, in a research letter published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association Internal Medicine, suggests a mechanism for regular exposure to the organic chemical, widely used in plastics, adhesives, countertops, dishware and whiteboards. Consumption of melamine-contaminated dairy products in China gave people kidney stones that resulted in at least six deaths and sickened more than 300,000 babies.

“Although the clinical significance of what levels of urinary melamine concentration has not yet been established, the consequences of long-term melamine exposure still should be of concern,” Chia-Fang Wu and colleagues said in the letter.


Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-21/toxic-melamine-released-from-bowls-serving-hot-soup-study-finds.html

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Reply Toxic Melamine Released From Bowls Serving Hot Soup, Study Finds (Original post)
Judi Lynn Jan 2013 OP
madokie Jan 2013 #1
bananas Jan 2013 #2
sybylla Jan 2013 #3
dotymed Jan 2013 #4
naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #6
madokie Jan 2013 #7
naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #8
The Second Stone Jan 2013 #19
Duer 157099 Jan 2013 #24
The Second Stone Jan 2013 #32
intheflow Jan 2013 #10
naaman fletcher Jan 2013 #11
BadgerKid Jan 2013 #12
sinkingfeeling Jan 2013 #5
eggplant Jan 2013 #13
TM99 Jan 2013 #9
SoapBox Jan 2013 #14
Hestia Jan 2013 #15
bitchkitty Jan 2013 #26
du_grad Jan 2013 #27
4lbs Jan 2013 #16
Babel_17 Jan 2013 #17
benjahmeen Jan 2013 #18
wickerwoman Jan 2013 #21
Babel_17 Jan 2013 #29
KurtNYC Jan 2013 #30
Babel_17 Jan 2013 #31
bitchkitty Jan 2013 #20
crim son Jan 2013 #22
valerief Jan 2013 #23
Fight2Win Jan 2013 #25
du_grad Jan 2013 #28
LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #33
kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #34

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:42 AM

1. Non of those kinds of dishes/bowls in our cabinets

They're all ceramic or glass

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Response to madokie (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:08 AM

2. Alf was from the planet Melmac, they were going to invade

Fortunately Alf realized we were good guys.

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Response to madokie (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 07:22 AM

3. Unfortunately there are a lot of unbreakable dishes made for toddlers out of melamine.

I have a couple of plates in my cupboard that I bought last fall. Nothing that hot goes into them as you never feed small children boiling hot food.

Guess I'll have to switch them out as soon as the grandchild can handle ceramic without hurting himself or others.

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Response to sybylla (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:01 AM

4. Unfortunately,

most "soup kitchens" for the poor use these type of bowls. They are also standard bowls for our school cafeterias.

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Response to madokie (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:56 AM

6. How would I know if my dishes are melamine? nt

 

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:59 AM

7. They're light in weight, plastic and seemingly indestructible

throw them on the floor and they bounce rather than shatter.

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Response to madokie (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:00 AM

8. hmm thanks.

 

I have a baby on the way and will make sure I don't buy melamine dishes for her.

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Response to madokie (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:20 PM

19. You do realize your test will leave you with only

melamine bowls to use? It was so funny I spit water on my new keyboard.

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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:23 PM

24. Your comment

made me do the same

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Response to Duer 157099 (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:48 PM

32. Yeah, do you know how the SF Giants test for melamine?

Lincecum throws them in the dirt to Posey, and if they don't break, then they are poisonous.

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Response to naaman fletcher (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:19 AM

10. To get an idea of what they look like,

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Response to intheflow (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:23 AM

11. awesome, thanks nt.

 

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Response to intheflow (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:28 AM

12. Haven't fast-food restaurants been selling collector plates?

I remember one plate I had that developed blisters at some point. You could peel off chips from that.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 09:55 AM

5. Well, I guess a whole generation was exposed. Melamine dishes were the 'thing' in

the 50s and 60s. I don't remember going to any dinners in the community that served food on anything other than 'Melamac'.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:56 AM

13. Yea, melamine is this generation's leaded crystal. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 10:05 AM

9. Not clear from the article,

but where does a consumer find a list of which bowels are safe and which ones are not? Must we now assume that unless the dish is specifically ceramic, glass, or not stamped with "Made in China" that it is suspect and toss it out?

This is a major issues not just health wise but also cost wise!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:03 AM

14. Yikes.

...growing up, Mom had at least a couple of sets.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:11 AM

15. Great - I use melamine bowls when I make CP soap - in making homemade soap

without chemicals, I am putting chemicals in the soap with the bowl. Back to glass, which is heavy and gets hot with the lye and water.
Argh...

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Response to Hestia (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:09 PM

26. I wouldn't worry about that.

Not for a wash off product. If you were making cream or lotion in them that might be different.

I make soap too, vegan, but don't use organic oils - to me, it's a waste since it is a wash off product, and once they react with the sodium hydroxide, which is a pretty fierce chemical in itself, they're not oils anymore anyway.

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Response to Hestia (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:20 PM

27. Ummmm, lye is a chemical

It is sodium hydroxide, the same stuff that's in Drano. You are NOT making soap without chemicals . That's basic Chemistry 101.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:17 AM

16. I always eat hot soup/stew in ceramic bowls. Same with my hot meals, on ceramic plates.

I do have plastic-like plates and bowls. Those I use for cold cereals, salads, and cold sandwiches.

For some reason, I never liked hot objects on plastic-like dishware, because I always had a subconscious feeling that some part of the plastic would melt and get into my food, thus I would eat a little plastic.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:27 AM

17. Tupperware?

Tupperware is ok?

I hope so because I pour very hot soups into a Tupperware bowl.

Thanks in advance for anyone kind enough to post an answer.

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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 11:50 AM

18. probably not

Tupperware is afterall plastic.

DONT MICROWAVE PLASTIC. just a tip.

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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:33 PM

21. Plastic is a different issue from melamine.

The problem there is BPAs. If you've bought the plastic relatively recently it should be BPA-free. If it's older or not labelled, I wouldn't risk pouring very hot liquids or heating things up in the microwave in it although studies haven't linked BPAs with any specific illnesses- we know it leeches into your food/body and is excreted but not necessarily that it is carcinogenic, for example.

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Response to wickerwoman (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:33 PM

29. Thanks for the heads-up about BPA

It reminded me that I'd read an article about them at salon.com.

Yeah, this is decades old tupperware so I guess I'll shop for some new stuff.

I take it that being BPA free is something to brag about so I should see it on labels where that pertains.

Thanks!

Edit:
As of March 2010, items sold by Tupperware US & CA are BPA free.

http://order.tupperware.com/coe/app/tup_widget.show_page?fv_page_code=safety&fv_section_name=help&fv_category_code=search&fv_item_category_code=200500

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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:37 PM

30. I love my pyrex sets

They nest inside each other, never stain, you can microwave in them and there are no issues with leeching plastics.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:38 PM

31. That's an idea too, thanks! (nt)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:31 PM

20. Bummer!

My favorite soup bowl is melamine, I think. I guess I'm gonna die now.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:44 PM

22. No plastic or melanine dishes in my house

but only because I find them aesthetically displeasing. Guess that's a good thing.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 01:07 PM

23. I use only glass, but I assume it's all glastic (plass?) and not just glass and

contains its own load of toxins. Oh, to eat rich-people food out of rich-people containers with rich-people tools!

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:08 PM

25. kick

 

nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:23 PM

28. Perhaps it's time to invest in glass companies!

n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 04:52 PM

33. Target sells a LOT of melamine dishes and bowls

and it really bothers me. These things shouldn't be sold for food use.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 05:05 PM

34. Bad idea overall for food to come in contact with plastic.

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