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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:23 AM

Star Member Judi Lynn (77,541 posts)

Police: Gun used to kill 3 in Ky. bought same day

Source: Associated Press

Police: Gun used to kill 3 in Ky. bought same day
| January 16, 2013 | Updated: January 16, 2013 7:40pm

HAZARD, Ky. (AP) — A gunman enraged by a domestic dispute bought a gun and fatally shot his former girlfriend, her uncle and her cousin in the parking lot of a small southeastern Kentucky college, police said Wednesday.

The violence near the school Tuesday afternoon locked down the campus for more than an hour as police searched the two buildings of Hazard Community and Technical College in Hazard. The campus was closed Wednesday and will reopen Thursday.

Caitlin Cornett, 20, and her uncle Jackie Cornett, 53, were found dead at the scene when police arrived about 6 p.m. Tuesday, Hazard Police Chief Minor Allen said. Twelve-year-old Taylor Jade Cornett, who police said was shot multiple times, died Wednesday afternoon at University of Kentucky Medical Center in Lexington, said Fayette County Coroner Gary Ginn.

Dalton Stidham, 21, was charged Tuesday with two counts of murder and one count of attempted murder. The officer handling the case was not available Wednesday night to say whether the latter charge would be amended.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Police-Gun-used-to-kill-3-in-Ky-bought-same-day-4198179.php

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Reply Police: Gun used to kill 3 in Ky. bought same day (Original post)
 Judi Lynn Jan 2013 OP
LineReply Is this one of those
 MichaelHarris Jan 2013 #1
LineLineReply Did the pawn shop that sold him the gun do a background check?
 Moosepoop Jan 2013 #5
LineLineLineReply They were required to by law. nt
 hack89 Jan 2013 #7
LineLineLineLineReply Thanks -- I wasn't sure if pawn shops were required to conduct them.
 Moosepoop Jan 2013 #9
LineLineLineLineLineReply Yep. Lautenberg Amendment.
 AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #10
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply The pawn shop owner is a baptist minister
 Mrs. Ted Nancy Jan 2013 #27
LineLineLineReply kind of pointless now, no?
 Javaman Jan 2013 #14
LineLineReply No this was not a good guy with a gun and that's the problem. All these gun laws will mean that
 politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2013 #16
LineReply Damn!
 ReRe Jan 2013 #2
LineLineReply If the pawn shop owner broke any gun law, he should be an accessory to murder.
 CanonRay Jan 2013 #6
LineLineNew Reply yeah, i hate that "if i can't have you no one will" -mindset
 Blue_Tires Jan 2013 #25
LineLineLineNew Reply That's right....
 ReRe Jan 2013 #26
LineReply What was it that Homer Simpson said?
 harmonicon Jan 2013 #3
LineLineNew Reply You beat me to it!
 FiveGoodMen Jan 2013 #20
LineReply Is horror fatigue setting in?
 tclambert Jan 2013 #4
LineReply So there was an instant background check and they got the gun the same day?
 davidpdx Jan 2013 #8
LineLineReply If the gun lobby had their way....
 Plucketeer Jan 2013 #11
LineLineLineReply Yup
 geomon666 Jan 2013 #12
LineLineLineNew Reply This didn't answer my question
 davidpdx Jan 2013 #21
LineLineLineLineNew Reply Kentucky does not have a waiting period. It's Rand Paul country. nt
 okaawhatever Jan 2013 #22
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply Thanks for the answer
 davidpdx Jan 2013 #23
LineReply Waiting periods don't work - or so we are told.
 jpak Jan 2013 #13
LineLineReply There Are More Obstacles To Voting Than Buying An AR-15
 DallasNE Jan 2013 #15
LineLineLineNew Reply Crazy, just crazy.
 Jennicut Jan 2013 #24
LineReply Another member of that "well regulated militia" (N/T)
 Grins Jan 2013 #17
LineReply Appropriate name for city. nt
 valerief Jan 2013 #18
LineNew Reply Ugh! UGH! UGGGGHHHHH!
 HuckleB Jan 2013 #19
LineNew Reply wtf..
 raidert05 Jan 2013 #28

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:49 AM

MichaelHarris (9,995 posts)

1. Is this one of those

good guys with a gun who decided not to be a good guy with a gun anymore? Seems he passed a background check. I know the NRA told me that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun was with a good guy with a gun but I don't know what to do when it's a good guy with a gun. Maybe look for a mediocre guy with a gun?

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Response to MichaelHarris (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:04 AM

Star Member Moosepoop (1,485 posts)

5. Did the pawn shop that sold him the gun do a background check?

I didn't see that mentioned anywhere in the article.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:26 AM

hack89 (21,219 posts)

7. They were required to by law. nt

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:10 AM

Star Member Moosepoop (1,485 posts)

9. Thanks -- I wasn't sure if pawn shops were required to conduct them.

I found this article a little bit ago:

Girl, 12, becomes third fatality of shooting at Ky. college

Kenny Woods, a Baptist minister who owns H & K Gun & Pawn Shop in Perry County, said in a telephone interview Wednesday that Stidham bought the gun legally at his shop about 1 p.m. Tuesday.

"He cleared a background check without even a delay," Woods said. "Everything was fine with him."

Woods said he would not have sold the gun had Stidham been acting strangely.

<snip>

Caitlin Cornett had gone to court in Perry County in November in an attempt to get an emergency domestic violence order against Stidham, but she was unsuccessful, her sister said.


I'm now wondering if the court had granted the emergency restraining order, would that have shown up in the background check and prevented Stidham from purchasing the gun at the pawn shop?

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Response to Moosepoop (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:08 AM

AtheistCrusader (14,150 posts)

10. Yep. Lautenberg Amendment.

Should happen automatically. They are supposed to turn in any guns they own to the police as well, for storage/holding while the order is worked out.

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Response to Moosepoop (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:52 PM

Mrs. Ted Nancy (345 posts)

27. The pawn shop owner is a baptist minister

I doubt he will be conducting the funerals of Mr. Stidham's victims.

He must have missed the lessons from Ezekiel.

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Response to Moosepoop (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:32 AM

Star Member Javaman (40,599 posts)

14. kind of pointless now, no?

But I know what you are driving at. If they didn't they are just as guilty.

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Response to MichaelHarris (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:56 PM

politicaljunkie41910 (377 posts)

16. No this was not a good guy with a gun and that's the problem. All these gun laws will mean that

there won't be enough good guys with guns walking around ready to take down the bad guy with the gun. It's all Obama's fault.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:53 AM

Star Member ReRe (2,847 posts)

2. Damn!

That young lady was trying to change and make her life better for herself and her baby. Well, Stidham now has three murders on his hands, since the 12 yr old boy died on Wed. Thank God he didn't kill his baby too! What a horrible incident. All because the young man was able to purchase the gun at a PAWN SHOP! That SOB that sold him the gun should be held accountable too, if he broke any laws by selling the gun to Stidham in the first place. My heart goes out to the Cornett family.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:18 AM

Star Member CanonRay (4,680 posts)

6. If the pawn shop owner broke any gun law, he should be an accessory to murder.

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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:21 AM

Blue_Tires (31,647 posts)

25. yeah, i hate that "if i can't have you no one will" -mindset

the killer just should have turned the gun on himself first...

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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:13 PM

Star Member ReRe (2,847 posts)

26. That's right....

.... he can go out in a blaze of glory and not hurt a soul (because he doesn't have one.)

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:35 AM

harmonicon (11,927 posts)

3. What was it that Homer Simpson said?

Something like, "Waiting period?! But I'm angry now!!"

Oh well, this was only 3 people, and only 1/3 of them were children. History shows that you need at least a 4:1 ratio of children to adults in mass killings to expect any real response.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:37 PM

FiveGoodMen (13,232 posts)

20. You beat me to it!

More wisdom on The Simpsons than in DC most days.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:40 AM

tclambert (5,528 posts)

4. Is horror fatigue setting in?

It seems harder to get outraged about yet another mass shooting. Maybe it has become the new normal.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:42 AM

Star Member davidpdx (8,773 posts)

8. So there was an instant background check and they got the gun the same day?

Am I reading this right?

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:19 AM

Plucketeer (6,267 posts)

11. If the gun lobby had their way....

handguns would be available from vending machines.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:06 AM

geomon666 (5,738 posts)

12. Yup

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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 03:37 AM

Star Member davidpdx (8,773 posts)

21. This didn't answer my question

Which is did the people apply for and get the gun on the same day? I get the impression this is the case, but I'd rather have someone confirm this instead of making an assumption.

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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:21 AM

okaawhatever (454 posts)

22. Kentucky does not have a waiting period. It's Rand Paul country. nt

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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:02 AM

Star Member davidpdx (8,773 posts)

23. Thanks for the answer

I guess if you really are mad at someone and and wanted to shoot them that would be the state to live in.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:10 AM

jpak (26,911 posts)

13. Waiting periods don't work - or so we are told.

yup

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:41 AM

DallasNE (2,928 posts)

15. There Are More Obstacles To Voting Than Buying An AR-15

In many States. Now how nuts is that.

Very few States allow you to register and vote on the same day but as this example shows, there is no problem with walking into a store and walking out with a gun and ammo.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:23 AM

Star Member Jennicut (25,335 posts)

24. Crazy, just crazy.

In this instance, a waiting period might have totally saved three people's lives.

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:58 PM

Grins (690 posts)

17. Another member of that "well regulated militia" (N/T)

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 01:58 PM

Star Member valerief (35,667 posts)

18. Appropriate name for city. nt

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 02:23 PM

HuckleB (25,277 posts)

19. Ugh! UGH! UGGGGHHHHH!

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Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:00 PM

raidert05 (185 posts)

28. wtf..

 

I'm in the military and have a security clearance and I live in Virginia of all places and I have to wait 5 days to get a gun...something is terribly backwards here...

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