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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:07 PM

Illinois sheriff compares U.S. immigration policy to Nazis

Source: Washington Times

An Illinois sheriff compared U.S. immigration policy to Nazi Germany recently. He made his comment while being questioned about his support for a bill to give driver’s licenses to 250,000 illegal immigrants in Illinois.

Sheriff Mark Curran agreed to debate the controversial legislation at a public meeting on his home turf in Lake County, Illinois. At least, it was supposed to be a debate but then he decided that he didn't want to debate the issue after all.

He was asked by an audience member: “Isn’t this bill a slap in the face to those who believe in the rule of law?” (Video at 23:05)

“Ultimately, I believe in the rule of law,” Curran said. “But we have to be honest about that. When we talk about the rule of law, a couple of things. One, our country had the rule of law that women didn’t have the right to vote. Minorities didn’t. Rosa Parks got caught in the rule of law. We can go on. Nazi Germany was the rule of law. So, ultimately, some laws are unjust in some sense.”



Read more: http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/bill-kellys-truth-squad/2013/jan/16/illinois-sheriff-says-us-immigration-policy-nazis/



I agree with Sheriff Mark Curran

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Reply Illinois sheriff compares U.S. immigration policy to Nazis (Original post)
AlphaCentauri Jan 2013 OP
Ash_F Jan 2013 #1
Babel_17 Jan 2013 #2
Babel_17 Jan 2013 #3
iandhr Jan 2013 #4
harmonicon Jan 2013 #9
SCVDem Jan 2013 #5
awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #6
alp227 Jan 2013 #7
harmonicon Jan 2013 #8

Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:17 PM

1. This bill would become the rule of law.

What a stupid argument. I'm tired of seeing pubs toss it around and not get called on it.

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:18 PM

2. The USA has a pretty liberal policy for immigration

The rule of law on immigration is there in part to protect workers.

As respected economist Paul Krugman has noted, wages for workers are tied to the supply and demand of workers.

You can't just disregard laws, that protect a lot of workers, in order to accomplish what you see as a worthy goal.

"some laws are unjust in some sense"

Really? That's the level of coherent argument from the sheriff?

If he wants to narrowly argue the matter of the drivers licenses, that's one thing. But he went and made an enormously sweeping generalization.

I disagree with Sheriff Mark Curran



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Response to Babel_17 (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:39 PM

3. I found a link with some up to date information

http://icirr.org/content/what-new-driver%E2%80%99s-license-law-means-sb-957

The facts of the matter seem different than what the Washington Times article suggests.

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:59 PM

4. There are two things thats nothing in American politics should be compared to.

One is the Nazis the other is slavery.

Is our immigration policy stupid and messes up. Yes. Is it anywhere close to the Nazis and the extermination of 6 million. NO

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Response to iandhr (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:19 AM

9. Well, good for you then, because this guy didn't do it.

The Washington Times made it up. If you even read their shitty little story, twice he had to clarify for RW idiots that that was not what he meant.

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:23 PM

5. "I hate Illinois Nazis" Jake Blues

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:35 PM

6. ...

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:38 PM

7. Oh c'mon with the Nazi reference the sheriff ASKED to get negative RW attention

like that Moonie Times link you provided. He could have ended right there after the Rosa Parks reference. So far that nutjob paper is the only publication that's reported on the comments.

Video is here (the question that led to the controversial answer is at 23:00 mark)

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Response to AlphaCentauri (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:18 AM

8. Oh, fuckin' Washington Times, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it were from ...

any other paper.

The fact is that the Sheriff went out of his way to state that he was not comparing any current US law to those of Nazi-led Germany, but who fucking cares about that? Once the word "Nazi" is said, it can be used in whatever libelous headline the paper wants.

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